Scriptural Proof Required

[Nash]

Hi folks.

A few days ago I bumped into a sister who did not know I was inactive. After we had a pleasant conversation, I had made it known that I was inactive, and since we have known each other for quite some time, she expressed her sadness. She then mentioned that she hopes that I "would reconsider [coming back]" as she implied that doing so means my survival.

I had the pleasure of speaking to another sister, this time from my Kingdom Hall, and she uttered something very similar - she also mentioned that my survival depends on returning to the congregation.

Interesting.

Is there any scriptural support for their arguments? Has information been presented at the meetings, assemblies, and conventions that indicate that inactive JWs will be destroyed at Armageddon?

Nash

[DoubtingThomas]

Hi Nash. For as long as I have been a JW (since 1972) it has been taught from the platform that only those dedicated and baptized as Jehovah's Witnesses will not be destroyed at Armaggedon. This is purely Watchtower dogma and I do not subscribe to it myself. It is without solid scriptural support. I believe it is more of a fear tactic used to recruit more members for the corporation (I mean religion). I believe that it is wrong for JW's to be taught this, and I believe that the job of judging should be left to those more qualified - like Christ Jesus and our Heavenly Father!

DoubtingThomas

[Sketch]

Its a good thing Job - one of the most faithful men of all - had a congregation to go to all the time..... uh.... wait..... er..... uh..... nevermind...

[Jeshurun]

Hi Nash

I can also confirm that this has been taught by the Society as a rule, that salvation only belongs to baptized Witnesses. I didn't believe it as a kid, and I don't believe it now. I believe Jehovah has many surprises in store for us, one of them being that there may be many from outside the organization whose basic belief in Christ may help them sort things out when Christianity comes under full-fledge attack. I believe Jehovah will be opening lots of eyes, possibly even of those outside Christendom. I also believe that the Witnesses' pompous and belligerent attitude about who gets saved will be a reason for having to be humbled in a big way. Those people telling you that you must be active within the org are in for a big shock, when they find out that the "org" won't even be around when people are being judged.

In this regard, it's only my opinion, but I believe there is scriptural evidence of what I believe, in the 16th chapter of Ezekiel, and also in other places, but this one comes to mind, let me know what you think:

⁵⁹ "For this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said, 'I also must do with you just as you have done, because

you despised the oath in breaking [my] covenant. ⁶⁰ And I, I myself, must remember my covenant with you in the

days of your youth, and I must establish for you an indefinitely lasting covenant. ⁶¹ And you will certainly remember

your ways and feel humiliated when you receive your sisters, the ones older than you as well as the ones

younger than you, and I shall certainly give them to you as daughters, but not owing to your covenant.'

[stayawake]

Oh! my
come on you sisters ,get into this.
I would like to see the scripture that support the WT beliefs on inactive ones not being marked for survival.
Who appointed them Judge. My Bible says Christ will do the judging, also says God loved the WHOLE WORLD (of mankind) He gave his only begotton son.
Also said Christ sacrifice was a ransom for ALL MORE >
God does not dwell in handmade temples, who is man to think he can build a house that can contain God??>
Jesus said go in your inner closet and pray and God would hear you>
Jesus also also told us what the two greatest commandments are.
Revelation tells us that the Great Crowd that will come out of the GT NO man can number, yet the WT has a number. The WT seems to know more then what the Apostle John was inspired to write.
The WT has already gone beyond what is written Let them show the scriptures of 5 meetings a week, turning in time making RV, building all these buildings for Jehovah, being a large corperation, owning a rentel car busniess, having diff classes inside the KHs.
Spec pioneers,reg pioneers, aux pioneers. where are these scriptures ?
The scripures tell us to love our neighbo as ourself, Jesus said it was one of the greatest commandments.
but the WT teaches us that we are better then our neighbor.If they won't listen to what we have to say AVOID THEM> How self rightious can one become to sit and judge another.
The sad thing is ,we were so programed, that while we are telling you to come back or you will not survive, we are sincere.
I know i've been there done that.
That is what i call mind control, May Jah forgive me.
love stayawake

[stayawake]

HI Jesh,just a quick note, I see we were both writting at the same time, Strange that we would both mention sisters.
the beauty of it all is you quoted Jah.
Come on Molly ,e&e,zech, all of you sisters ,dont let the bros scare ya
We may not have the freedom of speech in the KH, but Jah has blessed us here,so come on and share.
love you all
stayawake

[watchman]

<div align="left">"For if these things exist in you and overflow, they will prevent you from being either inactive or unfruitful regarding the accurate knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ." (2 Peter 1:8) </div>
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[Molly]

Oh! my
come on you sisters ,get into this.
I would like to see the scripture that support the WT beliefs on inactive ones not being marked for survival.
Who appointed them Judge. My Bible says Christ will do the judging, also says God loved the WHOLE WORLD (of mankind) He gave his only begotton son.
Also said Christ sacrifice was a ransom for ALL MORE >
God does not dwell in handmade temples, who is man to think he can build a house that can contain God??>
Jesus said go in your inner closet and pray and God would hear you>
Jesus also also told us what the two greatest commandments are.
Revelation tells us that the Great Crowd that will come out of the GT NO man can number, yet the WT has a number. The WT seems to know more then what the Apostle John was inspired to write.
The WT has already gone beyond what is written Let them show the scriptures of 5 meetings a week, turning in time making RV, building all these buildings for Jehovah, being a large corperation, owning a rentel car busniess, having diff classes inside the KHs.
Spec pioneers,reg pioneers, aux pioneers. where are these scriptures ?
The scripures tell us to love our neighbo as ourself, Jesus said it was one of the greatest commandments.
but the WT teaches us that we are better then our neighbor.If they won&#39;t listen to what we have to say AVOID THEM> How self rightious can one become to sit and judge another.
The sad thing is ,we were so programed, that while we are telling you to come back or you will not survive, we are sincere.
I know i&#39;ve been there done that.
That is what i call mind control, May Jah forgive me.
love stayawake[/b]


Good Morning Stayawake-

Let me say "Ditto" to everything that you said, but I don&#39;t think you really want to get me started on all the contrived nonsense that the WTS has proclaimed as law. Wait - (relax...now breath...relax...breath). Okay, I&#39;m better now. No, don&#39;t even get me started.

Molly

[Berean]

Well, in theory, we do not believe that we are the only ones who will be saved. I quote from the brochure Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses - Who Are They? What Do They Believe?:


Do they believe that they are the only ones who will be saved?
No. Millions that have lived in centuries past and who were not Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life. Many now living may yet take a stand for truth and righteousness before the "great tribulation," and they will gain salvation. Moreover, Jesus said that we should not be judging one another. We look at the outward appearance; God looks at the heart. He sees accurately and judges mercifully. He has committed judgment into Jesus&#39; hands, not ours.—Matthew 7:1-5; 24:21; 25:31.


Of course, in practice, anyone who isn&#39;t bapitzed is looked down upon by many within the congregation. But even if people say that inactive ones won&#39;t be saved, we&#39;re given the assurance that Jesus does not think like that at all:

No crushed reed will he break; and as for a dim flaxen wick, he will not extinguish it. In trueness he will bring forth justice. - Isaiah 42:2

[Elihu]

luke 18 v10-14

"two men went up into the temple to pray, the one a pharisee and the other a tax collector. The pharisee stood and began to pray these things to himself
"O God i thank you i am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unrighteopus , adulterers, or even as this tax collector. i fast twice a week, i give a tenth of all things i acquire."
But the tax collector standing at a distance was not willing even to raise his eyes heavenwards,but kept beating his breast saying "O God be gracious to me a sinner"

i tell you this man went down to his home proved more righteous than that man;
because everyone that exalts himself will be humiliated, but he that humbles himself will be exalted"


having associated with the witnesess for many years but for various reasons including (shamefully) not feeling that i could do the preaching work, i was frequently visited by the brothers and sisters. However once i mentioned this site and robert and how this new knowledge had made me so enthusistic to do the preaching work they did not come back!
silly of me really i should have known better.
the sisters still visit my wife but the warmth they used to show me has definetly gone.
i believe they think i have brainwashed my wife, unfortunatley she is just not interested in the kingdom message (at the moment).

just my thoughts
Elihu

[Nambo]

<div align="left">"For if these things exist in you and overflow, they will prevent you from being either inactive or unfruitful regarding the accurate knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ." (2 Peter 1:8)
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Do you consider these verses indicate that death awaits those who become inactive Watchman and that the word "inactive" has the literal meaning of not reporting field service for the Jehovahs Witnesses?

Firstly, on reading the scripture from 2nd Peter I see it is addresses to those who "may become sharers in divine nature".

For sure the first scripture is a good reply to those who think the common misception that if you "belive in God", you will go to Heaven whatever happens.
But rather that we who live in this time of the end are all going to need to exercise, rather than just have faith when the choices are presented to us in the Great Tribulation.
Also we will need to be seen by God to be the sort of persons exercising Godly devotion to escape the destruction of the world of man.

But at what point might it be deemed in injustice on Jehovahs part that people who have lived down through the ages with no likeing for God at all, get a ressurection and a fresh start in a world without bad influence, yet those who maybe put in many years of field service and still have a measure of Godly devotion but in no way measure up to the Societies yardstick now, get destroyed?, for isnt Jehovah not unrighteous to forget ones good works and the Love one had for his name?

[watchman]

Do you consider these verses indicate that death awaits those who become inactive Watchman and that the word "inactive" has the literal meaning of not reporting field service for the Jehovahs Witnesses?[/b]

The original poster asked for scriptures that JW&#39;s might use to support their view. That&#39;s what I provided, devoid of any comentary on my part.

[Sketch]

First, we need to realize that 1. The WTS does not have the final say of the decision making process. 2. Jesus did not come here to start a "religion". Now that doesn&#39;t really make the WTS obsolete, but it should put things in perspective as to exactly what the WTS should mean to us... as it seems that their primary goal now is to sustain a "religion".

Jesus came here to tell us the truth. Put faith in Jehovah and show it. Thats it. the sky is blue, the grass is green. very simple. (spare me the refracted light prisms and chlorophyl stuff). now, throw in "faith without works is dead" and this is what the question boils down to... define "works"? the WTS defines that as going out and giving out magazines, etc... and reporting it so they can see that you have works... nevermind the "faith" part, they assume that... but that is for a different thread...

but what "works" COULD be is helping some one. giving to someone in need. not because you feel guilty, or even because Jehovah wants you to, but because YOU want to... If you&#39;re only doing it because Jehovah tells you to, then really, what have you learned about Him? It has to be IN you to do it.

"Works" will ALWAYS involving doing something out of LOVE and almost always for your someone else (you do have to do some things for yourself... like self-forgiveness). If you&#39;re doing street work, then it needs to be FOR THAT PERSON that you&#39;re talking to. not to save face in the cong. not to please the men in NYC. but FOR THAT PERSON.

Ever given money to a homeless person so that they&#39;d go away? or because you were embarassed or felt peer pressure of everyone ELSE looking at you? Now, have you ever given some because you WANTED to help them? Did you notice the difference?

...2 cents..

[Reader]

I think you are correct, Sketch. We need to discern exactly what &#39;inactive&#39; is.

Your congregation defines it as not reporting time for a period of six months. If you have not been involved in sharing the good news of Jesus and the kingdom in six months, then your inactivity started some time ago.

On the other hand, you may not have reported time to the society in many years, yet are quite active in your ministry. It would be difficult to call that &#39;inactive.&#39;

Jesus&#39; last command to us was to go forth and make disciples. He said that he would be with us until the conclusion of the system of things. That means we have a duty to fulfill that no matter where we are in the stream of time.

So yes, inactivity is something that would be view by Jesus and Jehovah with sorrow. We do have a commission. Fulfilling that keeps us active. But don&#39;t let other people mislabel you, if indeed you are working.

Regards,

Reader

[Dorcas]

Isaiah 43:10-13 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.” 12 “I myself have told forth and have saved and have caused [it] to be heard, when there was among YOU no strange [god]. So YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “and I am God. 13 Also, all the time I am the same One; and there is no one effecting deliverance out of my own hand. I shall get active, and who can turn it back?”



Matthew 28:18-20 18 And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”



Micah 6:8 8 He has told you, O earthling man, what is good. And what is Jehovah asking back from you but to exercise justice and to love kindness and to be modest in walking with your God?

Are we dedicating our lives to the WTBTS? One might think so based on the 2nd question asked of baptismal candidates!

Love to those who love the LORD...

Dorcas http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/MSN%20Vlinder.gif

[Molly]

Hi All-

When James 2 was mentioned immediately the discussion was about preaching but there is not one word about preaching in the chapter. The first 9 verses are about the sin of showing favoritism rather than loving your neighbor as yourself.

Verses 10-13 discuss how one sin is as bad as another summing it up by saying "For the one that does not practice mercy will have [his] judgment without mercy. Mercy exults triumphantly over judgment." Showing mercy is a work.

Verses 14-17 consider overlooking our brothers and sisters when they are need our assistance and failing to offer material support. That is summed up with "Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself." Helping our brothers and sisters is a work.

Verses 18-26 discuss the faith displayed by Abraham and Rahab and how they were considered righteous by their activities displaying their faith. That, too, was summed up by noting that faith without works is dead. Acting is harmony with what we believe is a work.

Not one word about spreading the Kingdom message, although the WTS has filled our heads that that is all it is referring to. Of course preaching could be considered one way to display our faith but in no way, shape or form is it the only way, or even what the chapter is talking about. This is an area of incredible neglect by the WTS in that they don&#39;t place more emphasis on the other means of demonstrating our faith with regard to this chapter.

The inactivity discussed in this chapter refers to our failure to produce any appropriate Christian behavior when the circumstance arises, not just preaching the good news.

Molly

[Reader]

Molly, you are correct in that there are other facets to our activity as Christians. The preaching work, although not mentioned in that chapter, is of utmost importance, or Jesus would not have mentioned it at the pivot moment of his ascension to heaven.

That being said, a person who does not provide for his family is worse than a person without faith. So providing for your family is also a Christian trait.

Upon my next sojourn up a mountain, if Jehovah directly asks me to sacrifice my firstborn son, I will do as asked, and that will be counted to me as a faithful act. In the meantime, I will continue to do my very small part in letting people know about God&#39;s kingdom, and let that also count towards my faithful act. After all, it is what I&#39;ve been asked to do in this time.

Regards

Reader

[Dorcas]

Hi All-

When James 2 was mentioned immediately the discussion was about preaching but there is not one word about preaching in the chapter. The first 9 verses are about the sin of showing favoritism rather than loving your neighbor as yourself.

Verses 10-13 discuss how one sin is as bad as another summing it up by saying "For the one that does not practice mercy will have [his] judgment without mercy. Mercy exults triumphantly over judgment." Showing mercy is a work.

Verses 14-17 consider overlooking our brothers and sisters when they are need our assistance and failing to offer material support. That is summed up with "Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself." Helping our brothers and sisters is a work.

Verses 18-26 discuss the faith displayed by Abraham and Rahab and how they were considered righteous by their activities displaying their faith. That, too, was summed up by noting that faith without works is dead. Acting is harmony with what we believe is a work.

Not one word about spreading the Kingdom message, although the WTS has filled our heads that that is all it is referring to. Of course preaching could be considered one way to display our faith but in no way, shape or form is it the only way, or even what the chapter is talking about. This is an area of incredible neglect by the WTS in that they don&#39;t place more emphasis on the other means of demonstrating our faith with regard to this chapter.

The inactivity discussed in this chapter refers to our failure to produce any appropriate Christian behavior when the circumstance arises, not just preaching the good news.

Molly[/b]
The key words have to do with our task(s) for this time period. Personally, I think Adam and Eve&#39;s task was pretty cool -- be fruitful and multiply -- however, we are given the task of getting the Word out to folks, having Christlike conduct 24/7, and giving praise and honor to Jah. We need to be part of the glue which identifies us as Jah&#39;s Witnesses by showing love to all.
Dorcas http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/MSN%20Vlinder.gif

[Dorcas]

HI Jesh,just a quick note, I see we were both writting at the same time, Strange that we would both mention sisters.
the beauty of it all is you quoted Jah.
Come on Molly ,e&e,zech, all of you sisters ,dont let the bros scare ya
We may not have the freedom of speech in the KH, but Jah has blessed us here,so come on and share.
love you all
stayawake[/b]
You tell &#39;em, Stayawake! I guess I was never real popular at the KH because I assumed that the Constitution gave me freedom of speech! --just kidding --but I did have the habit of getting to the point real quick, and allowing the chips to
fall where ever...
Love, Dorcas http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/MSN%20Vlinder.gif

[Molly]

Dear Reader-

You are correct that there are many scriptures that make it perfectly clear that we have the obligation to preach the good news. There is absolutely no question about that. The problem is that this chapter of Jame is NOT one of them. There is absolutely no reference to preaching. In fact, if anything it is a balance to let us all know that it does not matter how much preaching you do, if you do not do these other things, you are still inactive. Isn&#39;t that what you asked for with regard to this chapter - what does it mean to be inactive? According to this chapter, never mind your preaching, if you are not doing the other things required, you ARE STILL inactive.

We had a pioneer sister in a former congregation. When the car group wanted to stop to visit with a sister that was terminal with cancer, she did not want to stop as it would impact her schedule for getting her time in. We stopped anyway. According to this chapter, this pioneer sister was inactive regardless of her hours. Where was the balance? She had none and had no concept of what was important. People are important and we are to care about them, especially when they are our brothers and sisters.

Molly

[stayawake]

Durcas,
you sound a lot like me,I always said what I thought.Sorry I didnt want to mention too many sisters by name to get in here, cuz didn&#39;t want to pressure any one. Love your contributions Durcas

Molly your pointing out that being inactive did not only include Preaching. How right you are!
How did Jah view that pioneers not wanting to call on that dear sister with cancer/ sure showed what service meant to her.
It meant hours, but then thats how we were trained. The hours give the corp a idea of just how many employes they can count on.
Didn&#39;t Jesus say,"" BY their fruits you shall know them,""
That the idenifing mark would be our love for one another
That if we remaind in HIS WORD the truth would set us free
and wasnt Jesus teachings while on earth referred to as ""THE WAY""/ Well here we are. love stayawake

[Jeshurun]

To me, being inactive equates to a damaged or weak relationship with Jehovah, falling off in prayer, and not being zealous in our telling others about him and his purposes.

I also wonder if the constant immense pressure exerted by the Society to have inflated hours could lead to some "creative reporting", maybe "cooking the books" if you will. Is THAT what being "active" means? Is that what Jehovah wants? A fierce competition to decide "who is the greatest among them"?

[Reader]

Dear Reader-

You are correct that there are many scriptures that make it perfectly clear that we have the obligation to preach the good news. There is absolutely no question about that. The problem is that this chapter of Jame is NOT one of them. There is absolutely no reference to preaching. In fact, if anything it is a balance to let us all know that it does not matter how much preaching you do, if you do not do these other things, you are still inactive. Isn&#39;t that what you asked for with regard to this chapter - what does it mean to be inactive? According to this chapter, never mind your preaching, if you are not doing the other things required, you ARE STILL inactive.

We had a pioneer sister in a former congregation. When the car group wanted to stop to visit with a sister that was terminal with cancer, she did not want to stop as it would impact her schedule for getting her time in. We stopped anyway. According to this chapter, this pioneer sister was inactive regardless of her hours. Where was the balance? She had none and had no concept of what was important. People are important and we are to care about them, especially when they are our brothers and sisters.

Molly[/b]

Hello Molly, sorry for the tardy response.

Fundamentally, we are both in agreement. There is much more to being a christian than knocking on doors, or blabbing to anyone who glances in our general direction. In fact, Paul said that anyone who has gifts, or knowledge, or even great faith, but does not have love, they are essentially useless. Unfortunately that sister in your experience showed where her love was. She, at least at that moment, had a higher love for her position in the organization than for her fellow human being. That is a tragedy of the moment, but hopefully with time she has matured in her relationship with those around her, as many strive to do.

Paul also talk about how people of the nations do by nature the things of the law, even though they do not have the law. That is the typical &#39;christian&#39; behavior that we see manifested throughout the world today. Generosity of spirit. Caring for others around them. Providing for their families. Helping out in times of distress. These are all part of our activity as true christians, although we do not have the monopoly on these traits.

What people of the nations do not do &#39;by nature&#39; is talk to others about God&#39;s kingdom. Although not mentioned in the chapter in James, it does speak about, as you mentioned, Rahab and Abraham. Both these were examples of faith, to be sure. When Jehovah called upon them for a task, they accomplished it as directed.

Many times my wife, when she has to go out, leaves me with a "honey do" list. Sometimes on that list there is one thing that is a must to get done, the most important task. She will usually pause at the door just as she is leaving and say "Don&#39;t forget, you have to do..." Jesus did the same thing. Just as he was leaving he said to go and make disciples.

You are quite right, &#39;activity&#39; is not solely preaching. But &#39;activity&#39; needs to include preaching. The other parts of a christian personality can come naturally, but must&#39;nt be overlooked.

Regards

Reader

[Shibboleth]

To go along with Reader&#39;s awesome post, I just wanted to add something.

When the disciples had asked Jesus what the greatest commandment was, Jesus replied that it was love for your neighbor and love for God. So what does the love part mean? Does it show love to your neighbor when you tell them about the good news? Yes. But does it show love for your neighbor when you view the preaching work as some sort of job that you have to get so many hours in or else you may get demoted from being a pioneer? No. Why do people do the preaching work? Do you do it for selfish gain to look good in the hall? that wouldn&#39;t show love for either God or neighbor. Do you do it unselfishly? These are just a few small questions we can ask only ourselves.

We have to remember that love covers a multitude of sins. The preaching work was a command that Jesus gave to all his disciples to partake in. Which in itself is a loving act, but we have to look at where our heart is. What are we doing it for? Who are we doing it for? and Why are we doing it? Love can encompass us all if we give it the chance. The preaching work is just a part of who we are not the whole thing.

What if you asked people in the hall what they feel is the most important act a witness could do. many would say the preaching work. I would say they are wrong, because showing love is the most important thing a witness can do. We cannot do the preaching work without love. We cannot do anything without it if we are to remain in Jehovah&#39;s sight.

So how many sins have you covered over with love? Only you and you alone can answer that question.

[Elihu]

What inspired posts,

someone on this DB once said something like "people can do the right things for the wrong reasons"

This has proved true all my life everywhere i look in life i see it
health and safety for example should be adhered to because we care about each other instead it is quite often given lip service and mainly adhered to because of fear of liability resulting from an accident.

i agree, love must be the motivator in everything we do, that is why Paul sets it as apart as the greatest of faith, hope and love. 1cor 13

with regard to preaching i have found that demonstrating oneself to be decent and honest, treating colleagues with respect and listening to their problems has quite often placed me in a position of confidence with them which can then lead to preaching the good news of the kingdom to them. They tend to listen more if they already trust you.

obviously i cannot invite them to a meeting as i myself do not attend but i can enlighten them to the reality of the scriptures, sow a seed if you like.
who knows God may make it grow when he is ready.

elihu

[Dorcas]

What inspired posts,

someone on this DB once said something like "people can do the right things for the wrong reasons"

This has proved true all my life everywhere i look in life i see it
health and safety for example should be adhered to because we care about each other instead it is quite often given lip service and mainly adhered to because of fear of liability resulting from an accident.

i agree, love must be the motivator in everything we do, that is why Paul sets it as apart as the greatest of faith, hope and love. 1cor 13

with regard to preaching i have found that demonstrating oneself to be decent and honest, treating colleagues with respect and listening to their problems has quite often placed me in a position of confidence with them which can then lead to preaching the good news of the kingdom to them. They tend to listen more if they already trust you.

obviously i cannot invite them to a meeting as i myself do not attend but i can enlighten them to the reality of the scriptures, sow a seed if you like.
who knows God may make it grow when he is ready.

elihu[/b]I made that statement about motivation, Elihu, and I also believe it&#39;s true -- sad to say. The situation was presented in a WT years ago. The idea was that not all sitting in the KH seats would be saved, etc. Some are "in the Truth" but the Truth isn&#39;t in them. If we&#39;re not going out in the preaching work, then we have to be a living sermon, and help when and where we can.
You have the right idea, Elihu!
Love to you, Dorcas http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/MSN%20Vlinder.gif