Completely safe and effective

Chloe said:

I have heard ones say that they, (the holy ones),were misled by Satan, so that makes it ok ,because thats what the Bible said would happen. All part of Jehovah’s plan, apparently.

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Well, if that's true, and Satan can easily mislead the so called leaders of Jah's people, then there's no hope for any of us 😯

Proverbs 14 v 15 said:

Well, if that's true, and Satan can easily mislead the so called leaders of Jah's people, then there's no hope for any of us 😯

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There is hope for us friend: Dan11:32 "And those who act wickedly against the covenant he (Satan) will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words*(flattery, insincerity). But the people who know thier God will prevail and act effectively" And we are getting to know our God more and more here at e-watchman for He has bared His arm to us; Isa52:10.........We are in receipt of His confidential matter Amos 3:7

Proverbs 14 v 15 said:

Well, if that's true, and Satan can easily mislead the so called leaders of Jah's people, then there's no hope for any of us 😯

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Even the elect would be deceived as the Bible says. We still do have a hope. Even Samson fell for his enemies tricks. Even though he died from falling into their trap, he still had a good relationship with Jehovah. So even if that life was hopeless, he still has a hope of a resurrection.

Proverbs 14 v 15 said:

Even after all this time I can not believe the GB "fell" for it, the "peace and security" of a so called medical intervention. None of this nonsense is accidental, random chance or incompetence..

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One of the things I've commented on but maybe not explained myself well enough is this. Watchtower in the past has used instances of the word spiritism or spiritistic practices to warn people away from the things connected to demons in any form. Pick your poison because there are many forms of it out there. The dark arts. Some of it is subtle. They also use it to warn against drug use which would in fact be included. They aren't wrong in this. Where they have lacked or fell short is that the original word pharmakeia which most of us are familiar with, includes a lot but, it seems that the most obvious use of that Greek word is being ignored. Pharmaceuticals. This wasn't always the case. I'll repeat something I've said before.
Back in the 1930s and maybe 40s, our people were against vaccinations and highly suspicious of pharma as a whole. Rightfully so.
Today there are thousands of drugs manufactured using the Rockefeller method of petroleum based manufacturing.
New light slipped in along the way and one day, pharma was acceptable. By choosing the translation "spiritism" I feel that the impact of the original meaning of pharmakeia has been diluted. As I read that word now, it seems obvious to me what it means when we are told that the entire world will be deceived through pharmakeia.

MickHewitt said:

There is hope for us friend: Dan11:32 "And those who act wickedly against the covenant he (Satan) will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words*(flattery, insincerity). But the people who know thier God will prevail and act effectively" And we are getting to know our God more and more here at e-watchman for He has bared His arm to us; Isa52:10.........We are in receipt of His confidential matter Amos 3:7

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Thankyou for that thought.. 💕

BagdadBill said:

One of the things I've commented on but maybe not explained myself well enough is this. Watchtower in the past has used instances of the word spiritism or spiritistic practices to warn people away from the things connected to demons in any form. Pick your poison because there are many forms of it out there. The dark arts. Some of it is subtle. They also use it to warn against drug use which would in fact be included. They aren't wrong in this. Where they have lacked or fell short is that the original word pharmakeia which most of us are familiar with, includes a lot but, it seems that the most obvious use of that Greek word is being ignored. Pharmaceuticals. This wasn't always the case. I'll repeat something I've said before.
Back in the 1930s and maybe 40s, our people were against vaccinations and highly suspicious of pharma as a whole. Rightfully so.
Today there are thousands of drugs manufactured using the Rockefeller method of petroleum based manufacturing.
New light slipped in along the way and one day, pharma was acceptable. By choosing the translation "spiritism" I feel that the impact of the original meaning of pharmakeia has been diluted. As I read that word now, it seems obvious to me what it means when we are told that the entire world will be deceived through pharmakeia.

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The brother and sister I first studied with explained what you've just explained to me which helped me quickly pack up smoking cannabis. That was 37yrs ago so SOME bros still understood the correct meaning. I remember reading a book written by a brother many years ago, I think it was Harold McMillan and he mentioned the pharmaceutical industry and how bad it was and he actually went to prison because he refused to be injected with anything. I wish I could remember the book..
Think it might have been "Faith on the March" and not HAROLD McMillan, ALEX Macmillan..

Soul Sage said:

Even the elect would be deceived as the Bible says. We still do have a hope. Even Samson fell for his enemies tricks. Even though he died from falling into their trap, he still had a good relationship with Jehovah. So even if that life was hopeless, he still has a hope of a resurrection.

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Yes, I understand all this, so why is it such a crime to point this out to our brothers and sisters? And why, if all this is in the Bible do the GB now moreorless require exclusive devotion and obedience? Don't THEY read the Bible themselves? Sorry, this topic still upsets me a lot. Some people feel strongly about the "beard" change, whereas I feel strongly about serious stuff that can kill or hurt us. Stuff the stupid beards 😣

Proverbs 14 v 15 said:

Yes, I understand all this, so why is it such a crime to point this out to our brothers and sisters? And why, if all this is in the Bible do the GB now moreorless require exclusive devotion and obedience? Don't THEY read the Bible themselves? Sorry, this topic still upsets me a lot. Some people feel strongly about the "beard" change, whereas I feel strongly about serious stuff that can kill or hurt us. Stuff the stupid beards 😣

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If Samson could mess up and have a lapse of clarity and he has the power to show God was with him by using his incredible strength blessed by God. Then that proves the GB has made mistakes too and they don't get it right all the time. Instead of saying they are Jehovah's voice, it be better to say they are inspired by God.

Proverbs 14 v 15 said:

Yes, I understand all this, so why is it such a crime to point this out to our brothers and sisters? And why, if all this is in the Bible do the GB now moreorless require exclusive devotion and obedience? Don't THEY read the Bible themselves? Sorry, this topic still upsets me a lot. Some people feel strongly about the "beard" change, whereas I feel strongly about serious stuff that can kill or hurt us. Stuff the stupid beards 😣

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The beard stuff...kind of a sign of a cult, no? They have brainwashed a whole group of Brothers and Sisters. Only terror will wake them up. Jehovah will recover many of his people at that time. Isa 28:19

kirmmy said:

It seems that was fake news.

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Apparently so. Japan did not ban mRNA. They simply are going to stop providing it for free. Now, you have to pay to receive an unsafe and ineffective shot in the arm

kirmmy said:

The beard stuff...kind of a sign of a cult, no? They have brainwashed a whole group of Brothers and Sisters. Only terror will wake them up. Jehovah will recover many of his people at that time. Isa 28:19

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There are two paths to take. The traditional route of Orthodoxy or the "new light" path. If we were a traditional religion we would still be celebrating Christmas despite it being pagan. There is no middle road. It's better to change as long as there is bible application to it than to stay the same despite a old teaching that was mistranslated or misunderstood.

One of the problems we have seen is well intentioned independent journalists who don't look down the road. I was watching a little more Alex Jones than I should have a few years ago and one thing that jumped out at me was that first, he runs a business. His latest jargon is that if you support his web site, together we might save the world. A few years ago people were clamoring that the injection was the mark of the beast.
It was clear that it was not but much like this eclipse that is coming, they are banging to beat the band.

I have left the question on Jones' videos several times. I asked him why he is trying to save what God has already condemned. Never an answer.
I even pointed out that by trying to save this old world whether through activism or other means, a person might actually be seen as fighting against God's will. The fact that Watchtower is also murmuring about climate change has not gone unnoticed. As if it were something that God's people would ever worry about. How offensive that is.

One noteworthy point about Japan though is that they didn't go crazy with mandates and pushing people. A few years ago I expected Japan to suffer an attack or something for their lackluster adoption of the global injection plan. I would suspect that the powers that be are keeping an eye on them nonetheless.
The injection scheme is far from over. I expect that once the war really kicks off they will announce that Disease X is finally here

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There are two paths to take. The traditional route of Orthodoxy or the "new light" path. If we were a traditional religion we would still be celebrating Christmas despite it being pagan. There is no middle road. It's better to change as long as there is bible application to it than to stay the same despite a old teaching that was mistranslated or misunderstood.

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Except there is no "Bible application" regarding beards, pants, or a lot of the BS they are restricting or teaching.

Watchman said:

Apparently so. Japan did not ban mRNA. They simply are going to stop providing it for free. Now, you have to pay to receive an unsafe and ineffective shot in the arm

Japan to start charging for mRNA vaccines in April 2024 – NaturalNews.com

There are rumors circulating right now claiming that Japan has banned all mRNA (modRNA) Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) “vaccines” after discovering an excess in “sudden” deaths. The truth is quite different, sadly, as Japan is not only keeping mRNA injections, but it is going to start charging for...

www.naturalnews.com

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Same in the UK from about 3/4 weeks ago..

Watchman said:

Apparently so. Japan did not ban mRNA. They simply are going to stop providing it for free. Now, you have to pay to receive an unsafe and ineffective shot in the arm

Japan to start charging for mRNA vaccines in April 2024 – NaturalNews.com

There are rumors circulating right now claiming that Japan has banned all mRNA (modRNA) Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) “vaccines” after discovering an excess in “sudden” deaths. The truth is quite different, sadly, as Japan is not only keeping mRNA injections, but it is going to start charging for...

www.naturalnews.com

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Well there's always Florida...

I hate linking to an MSM propaganda site but it does show how much BS is involved because:


Yeah..."fact checker" sites..

What is one to believe?

I've mentioned this quote from Apocalypse Now before "The BS was so high you needed wings to stay above it".

kirmmy said:

The beard stuff...kind of a sign of a cult, no? They have brainwashed a whole group of Brothers and Sisters. Only terror will wake them up. Jehovah will recover many of his people at that time. Isa 28:19

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I wonder if the "terror" will be when they finally realise that the GB lied when they moreorless told us that the injections are from Jehovah, and that they're really from Satan? Poor brothers and sisters, hopefully Armageddon will save them from too much damage..

Soul Sage said:

If Samson could mess up and have a lapse of clarity and he has the power to show God was with him by using his incredible strength blessed by God. Then that proves the GB has made mistakes too and they don't get it right all the time. Instead of saying they are Jehovah's voice, it be better to say they are inspired by God.

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I don't even believe they are "inspired" by Jehovah. Even they themselves have said many times that they're not inspired nor infallible.

Proverbs 14 v 15 said:

I wonder if the "terror" will be when they finally realise that the GB lied when they moreorless told us that the injections are from Jehovah, and that they're really from Satan? Poor brothers and sisters, hopefully Armageddon will save them from too much damage..

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I think it will encompass way more than the vaccines. It would be like a husband and wife married for 40 years and seemingly very happily married and all of a sudden the wife finds out the husband has been unfaithful for most of their marriage. Devastating but effective. Their only choice at that point is to reject the apostate WBTS and embrace Jehovah OR throw it all out as many have done. Many atheists will be born unfortunately. But once the incredible signs Christ talked about start to take place atheists all over the world will be given another choice/chance, I imagine.

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I think it will encompass way more than the vaccines. It would be like a husband and wife married for 40 years and seemingly very happily married and all of a sudden the wife finds out the husband has been unfaithful for most of their marriage. Devastating but effective. Their only choice at that point is to reject the apostate WBTS and embrace Jehovah OR throw it all out as many have done. Many atheists will be born unfortunately. But once the incredible signs Christ talked about start to take place atheists all over the world will be given another choice/chance, I imagine.

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That is a very good analogy.. Yes, the CSA will come out in the open too. That should shake a fair few..

Soul Sage said:

They (Bethel) failed to understand the evil scheme by falling for the "safety and security" propaganda. While this vaccine isn't a blood transfusion, it causes the blood to change into something that's not organic. It's a genetically modified substance flowing through your bloodstream causing damage along the way over time. Your body gets confused because it's not natural, it's bioengineered so it messes up your bodies natural programming within your DNA structure. It's like they installed Spyware into their bloodstream and now their computer runs slower now. Your body is that computer and the vaccine is that Spyware virus that is supposed to help but it slows your computer down.

I warned others from taking it because I knew it was disrespecting the sanctuary of our bloodstreams. God considers blood as sacred. So it's not like we are eating something and relieving ourselves of it the next day. All that poison in the bloodstream is going to have a stronger effect because you can't purify your blood like you can with your gut.

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The Florida Surgeon General is calling for an immediate halt to the gene therapy elixer product. It's coming out more now, wheras it wasn't talked about or revealed previously, that non human DNA is in the potion and the Florida Surgeon General has expressed concern that due to the lipid nanoparticle process used in these drugs, that it can very possibly enter the human cells and bind with and change the DNA of the recipient, and that this can be passed onto their offspring. There is also the concern that it may remove the natural immune defense against cancer, resulting in more cancer in the recipients.
Dr. John Campbell did a well balanced and very informative video about this (below). Actually, it's said in the video, the non human DNA was not included in the Phizer trials, but then was added later to the potion distributed to the public, a bait and switch.
In another interview by Tucker Carlson with the FL Surgeon General (which has been removed from YouTube) he, the Florida Surgeon General, stated that our DNA is a gift from God, and that this has been, and is, a spiritual warfare.