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Ireneo

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The deterioration due to the vaccine is amazing

I will tell you what happened in our kingdom hall in a period of 15 days only

1-a sister fainted at the meeting and had to leave by ambulance
2-An 18-year-old boy went out into the yard with 200 beats per minute and had to be given air
3-The speaker in the middle of the weekend conference got dizzy and fainted on the floor of the platform
4-A sister got dizzy during the songs and fell to the ground

This happened in 15 days during the meetings
How much more is going on in the brothers' private homes?
It is evident that what is not seen is much greater

Yet they blame climate change.
 

mts

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Your comment prompted me to review Roman's 13 in full context. After reading the full chapter, It's clear to me that the writer adds a condition to the subjection. Notice: "For those rulers are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the bad. Do you want to be free of fear of the authority? Keep doing good, and you will have praise from it; 4 for it is God’s minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear, for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword. It is God’s minister, an avenger to express wrath against the one practicing what is bad."

The condition is that the authorities are in place to control and punish those practicing what is bad. The question is, who decides what is good and bad? Is the injection good? "Do not owe anything to anyone except to love one another; for whoever loves his fellow man has fulfilled the law." Is the injection loving of neighbor?

The condition of subjection then is to render obedience only when they are providing a service for the "good" of the community. This is why Christ himself as well as the apostles could reject said obedience when commanded to discontinue their ministry. This is why we reject the command to take up arms in warfare.

It's clear that obedience is conditional and the GB do not get to decide whether or not the superior authorities are supporting what is good or bad. That is up to each individual.
Hi @Jah-son, I liked your response to my post and elaboration on Romans 13 and the contextual analysis. It makes sense to conclude that yes, if you are doing what is bad, beware of the wrath of the superior authorities which are authorized to punish those who break the law or practice what is bad. Also, you spurred more interest in researching this scripture, which was heavily used by the GB as basis to promote obedience to the govt v@x mandates, mask usage, etc. I found something really interesting in an old reference which I'll link to below if interested in reading the full article.

Note this really interesting statement: "The political powers of this world are, therefore, not the 'superior authorities' to whom Christian souls are to be subject in every demand they make." The political powers are under the rule of the Devil and not the Supreme ruler, Jah (1 John 5:19). Consequently, I agree, there are conditions to the subjection, that is, it is a relative subjection if "in harmony with righteousness". Since the start of the push to get the injection, it was never, in my opinion, in harmony with righteousness, and I think all here would agree, right? Consequently, per the reference, which was my conclusion all along, "...any law and demand made in conflict with the superior laws and commandments of God they will not obey." What conflict? To start, how about 2 Cor 7:1 (NIV)? Click here for source & recommend reading paragraphs 18,19.
 

kirmmy

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Hi @Jah-son, I liked your response to my post and elaboration on Romans 13 and the contextual analysis. It makes sense to conclude that yes, if you are doing what is bad, beware of the wrath of the superior authorities which are authorized to punish those who break the law or practice what is bad. Also, you spurred more interest in researching this scripture, which was heavily used by the GB as basis to promote obedience to the govt v@x mandates, mask usage, etc. I found something really interesting in an old reference which I'll link to below if interested in reading the full article.

Note this really interesting statement: "The political powers of this world are, therefore, not the 'superior authorities' to whom Christian souls are to be subject in every demand they make." The political powers are under the rule of the Devil and not the Supreme ruler, Jah (1 John 5:19). Consequently, I agree, there are conditions to the subjection, that is, it is a relative subjection if "in harmony with righteousness". Since the start of the push to get the injection, it was never, in my opinion, in harmony with righteousness, and I think all here would agree, right? Consequently, per the reference, which was my conclusion all along, "...any law and demand made in conflict with the superior laws and commandments of God they will not obey." What conflict? To start, how about 2 Cor 7:1 (NIV)? Click here for source & recommend reading paragraphs 18,19.
That's from a 1950 Watchtower and that is what they believed at the time. They have since "adjusted" their views on the matter.

Now it's cookies and bed time stories if they quickly bow down to the worldly authorities...no matter what the request.
 

Soul Sage

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The globalists are the modern day Nazis. And the fruitage of their spirit is rotten to the core. They aggressively pushed for vax mandates and even made threats against the unvaccinated. That comes from a spirit of evil. I don't think the GB understands how evil these globalists are. Because they would have to do a study into politics and they are not in that headspace. It helps to know your enemies plan of attack so you know what traps to look out for.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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The globalists are the modern day Nazis. And the fruitage of their spirit is rotten to the core. They aggressively pushed for vax mandates and even made threats against the unvaccinated. That comes from a spirit of evil. I don't think the GB understands how evil these globalists are. Because they would have to do a study into politics and they are not in that headspace. It helps to know your enemies plan of attack so you know what traps to look out for.
You are so right. I don’t think the GB have any insight into the world. Their reasoning and thinking are so immature that the only explanation I can think of to explain their behaviour is that they are totally ignorant of both politics and the social strata in this world. Lett is the prime example in his behaviour and the others are similar in their own way but do not make it so obvious. They appear child-like in their simplistic outlook to the flock and world events. I can feel their stunned surprise when the day of “Get away from me - I never knew you” arrives. It will be genuine surprise for some of them I’m sure.
 

MickHewitt

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You are so right. I don’t think the GB have any insight into the world. Their reasoning and thinking are so immature that the only explanation I can think of to explain their behaviour is that they are totally ignorant of both politics and the social strata in this world. Lett is the prime example in his behaviour and the others are similar in their own way but do not make it so obvious. They appear child-like in their simplistic outlook to the flock and world events. I can feel their stunned surprise when the day of “Get away from me - I never knew you” arrives. It will be genuine surprise for some of them I’m sure.
Elon has put up an interesting poll 'Should Assange and Snowden be pardoned'? 7Min in.....
80% in favour for pardon!...The light is getting brighter! Christ again: 'What's done in the darkness'
 

Nomex

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"For those rulers are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the bad. Do you want to be free of fear of the authority? Keep doing good, and you will have praise from it; 4 for it is God’s minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear, for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword. It is God’s minister, an avenger to express wrath against the one practicing what is bad."
I'm so glad you made this post. I also looked it up several months ago and came to a similar conclusion, or I should say affirmed how I already understood Romans 13, and also made similar posts about it. I think the wording is interesting. "They are an object of fear, not to the good deed..." When you think of the command to "fear Jehovah..." we have always been taught that it is not a morbid fear. So I think this scripture points to just the opposite. You fear them because they are evil, and yet for now Jehovah allows them to have relative authority, the other key defining word, "relative." You can also argue that the authority they have is often wielded unjustly, and that injustice is against God's will as well. Is it just to mandate a vaccine that violates the Nuremberg code, a code and trial that sent many Nazi's to the gallows including scientist and doctors?

I think it is without a doubt clear, the GB are only using Romans 13 to exercise their own control over God's people.
 

LifeLearning

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It's clear that obedience is conditional and the GB do not get to decide whether or not the superior authorities are supporting what is good or bad. That is up to each individual.
Your post would be a great new thread. So much is written about this. An honest study of the positions held by, and actions performed by, the superior authorities would shine a light on how watchtower publications cherry pick the scriptures to enforce whatever agenda they have on tap. It's dishonest what they are doing, and they must know it.

How would Jehovah feel about someone killing David because Saul said David should die? Saul was king right? :sick:
 

MickHewitt

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Major media outlets published an open call on Biden to drop charges on Assange! Now remember there is no love in Obama for the good old US of A. It was in Obama's watch that Assange was subjected to such incarceration. So this is an interesting move. Another nail in America's coffin? Is the one who understands ambiguous sayings (KOTN) mechanising a further attack on the south? Obama, Clinton and Biden refer to London's Chatham House as the 'Mother Ship' They are not friends of the USA.
Elon has put up an interesting poll 'Should Assange and Snowden be pardoned'? 7Min in.....
80% in favour for pardon!...The light is getting brighter! Christ again: 'What's done in the darkness'
 
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Citrine

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It’s been awhile since I’ve done a health report so here it is - the good, the bad, and the ugly!

The Good.
-I’m happy to say we are seeing some success with detoxing and the scans are showing improvement! 👏
- Many are now saying they won’t take any more vx but unfortunately this is usually after they’ve had at least 2 and often the 3rd.

The Bad.
-Lots of strange cancers still happening. Have you ever heard of appendix cancer? Tumors growing on the outside of arms and legs? 🤔
- So much leukemia! I’ve never talked this much about it and it’s in young people and surprisingly drs are now saying it’s untreatable 🤷‍♀️
- The soft targets are really taking the hit! So many emergency gallbladder removal, appendix removal, burst ovary surgeries!
- Multiple rapid onset dementia. Just today had a woman mid 60’s that was totally fine 6 months ago and today thrashing around in the car unable to communicate
- The bone marrow death is really upsetting to see. It’s very difficult to deal with and often results in amputation.
- Oddly hearing about pets of the vxd getting huge tumors, seizures, skin rashes that won’t stop, and even sudden death ☠️
- This ones rough - old wounds “opening back up” 🫣 We have had several people with various surgeries especially involving mesh like hernia surgery and various female surgeries have their wounds just open back up 🤮! Also having back, knee, hip, etc implants being rejected at a huge rate!

The Ugly.
- I’m unhappy to report the shedding weirdness is still happening and taking a strange turn.
- The hairdressers, acupuncturists, massage therapist (physical contact with the vxd) are now getting heart issues, mini strokes, blood clots, migraines, and too many more to count. 😳
- The hairdresser that I previously posted about with the weird long blood clots came back in to scan this week. She also has a vxd boyfriend that she is intimate with. With all that constant contacts the blood clots are definitely growing (she’s not vxd and only 48) and we’re not getting much traction with our treatments due to the daily re-exposure.
- It’s going on two years now and we’re hearing more about the unvxd having heart issues and blood clots from shedding. This is terrifying to us as we also deal with the public. We try to limit as much as possible but it’s still an unknown.
- My husband had an odd experience. He was standing in our driveway with an elderly elder we’ve known our entire life. He was doing his expected encouragement call on us. While talking outside my husband had a healed over cut (kitchen knife no big deal) on his finger split open and start pouring blood for no obvious reason. It unnerved the old elder so much he quickly left and has since messaged several times to see if he is ok - it was that odd!

There’s more to report but I think you get the idea what’s happening.
 
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CyndiaS

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It’s been awhile since I’ve done a health report so here it is - the good, the bad, and the ugly!

The Good.
-I’m happy to say we are seeing some success with detoxing and the scans are showing improvement! 👏
- Many are now saying they won’t take any more vx but unfortunately this is usually after they’ve had at least 2 and often the 3rd.

The Bad.
-Lots of strange cancers still happening. Have you ever heard of appendix cancer? Tumors growing on the outside of arms and legs? 🤔
- So much leukemia! I’ve never talked this much about it and it’s in young people and surprisingly drs are now saying it’s untreatable 🤷‍♀️
- The soft targets are really taking the hit! So many emergency gallbladder removal, appendix removal, burst ovary surgeries!
- Multiple rapid onset dementia. Just today had a woman mid 60’s that was totally fine 6 months ago and today thrashing around in the car unable to communicate
- The bone marrow death is really upsetting to see. It’s very difficult to deal with and often results in amputation.
- Oddly hearing about pets of the vxd getting huge tumors, seizures, skin rashes that won’t stop, and even sudden death ☠️
- This ones rough - old wounds “opening back up” 🫣 We have had several people with various surgeries especially involving mesh like hernia surgery and various female surgeries have their wounds just open back up 🤮! Also having back, knee, hip, etc implants being rejected at a huge rate!

The Ugly.
- I’m unhappy to report the shedding weirdness is still happening and taking a strange turn.
- The hairdressers, acupuncturists, massage therapist (physical contact with the vxd) are now getting heart issues, mini strokes, blood clots, migraines, and too many more to count. 😳
- The hairdresser that I previously posted about with the weird long blood clots came back in to scan this week. She also has a vxd boyfriend that she is intimate with. With all that constant contacts the blood clots are definitely growing (she’s not vxd and only 48) and we’re not getting much traction with our treatments due to the daily re-exposure.
- It’s going on two years now and we’re hearing more about the unvxd having heart issues and blood clots from shedding. This is terrifying to us as we also deal with the public. We try to limit as much as possible but it’s still an unknown.
- My husband had an odd experience. He was standing in our driveway with an elderly elder we’ve known our entire life. He was doing his expected encouragement call on us. While talking outside my husband had a healed over cut (kitchen knife no big deal) on his finger split open and start pouring blood for no obvious reason. It unnerved the old elder so much he quickly left and has since messaged several times to see if he is ok - it was that odd!

There’s more to report but I think you get the idea what’s happening.
Thanks so much for updating us, Citrine. This is such valuable information. Feel free to share as much as you are comfortable sharing here. Your posts about all this are the first ones I read when I come on this site. And that is so bizarre and troubling re your husband's wound reopening and that it's also happening to others. Wth?? 😢
 

kirmmy

Well-known member
It’s been awhile since I’ve done a health report so here it is - the good, the bad, and the ugly!

The Good.
-I’m happy to say we are seeing some success with detoxing and the scans are showing improvement! 👏
- Many are now saying they won’t take any more vx but unfortunately this is usually after they’ve had at least 2 and often the 3rd.

The Bad.
-Lots of strange cancers still happening. Have you ever heard of appendix cancer? Tumors growing on the outside of arms and legs? 🤔
- So much leukemia! I’ve never talked this much about it and it’s in young people and surprisingly drs are now saying it’s untreatable 🤷‍♀️
- The soft targets are really taking the hit! So many emergency gallbladder removal, appendix removal, burst ovary surgeries!
- Multiple rapid onset dementia. Just today had a woman mid 60’s that was totally fine 6 months ago and today thrashing around in the car unable to communicate
- The bone marrow death is really upsetting to see. It’s very difficult to deal with and often results in amputation.
- Oddly hearing about pets of the vxd getting huge tumors, seizures, skin rashes that won’t stop, and even sudden death ☠️
- This ones rough - old wounds “opening back up” 🫣 We have had several people with various surgeries especially involving mesh like hernia surgery and various female surgeries have their wounds just open back up 🤮! Also having back, knee, hip, etc implants being rejected at a huge rate!

The Ugly.
- I’m unhappy to report the shedding weirdness is still happening and taking a strange turn.
- The hairdressers, acupuncturists, massage therapist (physical contact with the vxd) are now getting heart issues, mini strokes, blood clots, migraines, and too many more to count. 😳
- The hairdresser that I previously posted about with the weird long blood clots came back in to scan this week. She also has a vxd boyfriend that she is intimate with. With all that constant contacts the blood clots are definitely growing (she’s not vxd and only 48) and we’re not getting much traction with our treatments due to the daily re-exposure.
- It’s going on two years now and we’re hearing more about the unvxd having heart issues and blood clots from shedding. This is terrifying to us as we also deal with the public. We try to limit as much as possible but it’s still an unknown.
- My husband had an odd experience. He was standing in our driveway with an elderly elder we’ve known our entire life. He was doing his expected encouragement call on us. While talking outside my husband had a healed over cut (kitchen knife no big deal) on his finger split open and start pouring blood for no obvious reason. It unnerved the old elder so much he quickly left and has since messaged several times to see if he is ok - it was that odd!

There’s more to report but I think you get the idea what’s happening.
The effects of their experimental treatment are coming in. They must be pleased. No need to experiment with monkeys and pigs anymore, now they have a huge population of guinea pigs to experiment on. The gov, big business and its friends have seen to that.

Always remember this:

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Soul Sage

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The effects of their experimental treatment are coming in. They must be pleased. No need to experiment with monkeys and pigs anymore, now they have a huge population of guinea pigs to experiment on. The gov, big business and its friends have seen to that.

Always remember this:

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Jesus Christ would be angry at that. Big pharma with Pfizer being promoted inside a kingdom hall. With Pfizer being one of the most corrupt merchants the world has ever seen and along with the lawsuits and vaccine side effects happening where people should start feeling blood guilt from promoting it. It's no surprise it's advertised in highly indoctrinated leftist California. Makes me feel sick to my stomach that they made Kingdom halls vaccination sites.
 

robins

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Jesus Christ would be angry at that. Big pharma with Pfizer being promoted inside a kingdom hall. With Pfizer being one of the most corrupt merchants the world has ever seen and along with the lawsuits and vaccine side effects happening where people should start feeling blood guilt from promoting it. It's no surprise it's advertised in highly indoctrinated leftist California. Makes me feel sick to my stomach that they made Kingdom halls vaccination sites.
i think there was money to be made by using the KH as a facility for this. It's so obvious- why aren't more people seeing thru this money grab
 

mts

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Just heard a young father in a local congregation that developed “aggressive leukemia” in the last six months has stopped all treatments. He is home to spend his time with his family and they have requested no calls. Yes he’s 3x vxd.
To add, a dear friend and loving person who used to be in our congregation, in a matter of 2 weeks, died. That is, two weeks prior to his death, was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer that metastasized; this is very odd. The odd part is that he regularly went to doctor's appts and routinely had blood checked and they only found out he had cancer 2 weeks before he passed? Yes, he got at least 3 cvd shots and flu shots every yr. Only in early 60's. So sad, but no surprise. It's going to be a rough ride for the living. :(
 

Ms_ladyblue

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They're just beginning to steer the flu shots towards their MRNA "final solution". I'd suggest you start skipping the flu shots. That is...if you want to stay in "the land of the living", to quote some apostate, whitewashed walls.
For sure, this is exactly what they’re doing. Besides, I’ve never had a flu shot in my life and don’t plan on it now for sure…and haven’t had the flu since the early 90’s.
 
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