Being the Outcast.

Dorothea

Well-known member
Jess, you are justified for feeling downhearted over this. It is lunacy. I am seeing so many inconsistencies it makes my head spin. What I'm wondering with this situation is ... are these people going to the in-person meetings, and if so, why the insistence on remaining contactless? Are they not sitting directly next to one another, brushing shoulders etc? Is it because you are not juiced-up she feels you should distance yourself? Just curious because there are so many strange concepts floating around here too.

I haven't been back to in-person meetings but my husband and daughter go, and they say everyone is masked. Last weekend we were pressed by Field Service Group Overseer to join the entire group for hospitality (feeding the speaker after meeting) at his home. That would mean about 20-25 people if everyone showed up. He assured us, don't worry you don't have to wear a mask, nobody will be wearing masks. Fine, but why is it such a big deal at meetings and then 10 minutes later it's irrelevant? (We didn't attend, btw.)

My family is unjabbed, and probably everyone is aware, but this apparently didn't matter to our FSG overseer. And I've noticed in our city most stores & restaurants are basically returning to "normal" and hardly anyone wears masks.
Very similar experience here, we were invited to a large gathering. I didn't go, but my family went and they said nobody cared about masks. So bizarre! They're all masked up at the meetings and yet they show they know it's all a charade by not wearing masks at their gathering. If it really is just a charade, why is nobody questioning the GB guidance?
 

Jah-son

Well-known member
Jess, you are justified for feeling downhearted over this. It is lunacy. I am seeing so many inconsistencies it makes my head spin. What I'm wondering with this situation is ... are these people going to the in-person meetings, and if so, why the insistence on remaining contactless? Are they not sitting directly next to one another, brushing shoulders etc? Is it because you are not juiced-up she feels you should distance yourself? Just curious because there are so many strange concepts floating around here too.

I haven't been back to in-person meetings but my husband and daughter go, and they say everyone is masked. Last weekend we were pressed by Field Service Group Overseer to join the entire group for hospitality (feeding the speaker after meeting) at his home. That would mean about 20-25 people if everyone showed up. He assured us, don't worry you don't have to wear a mask, nobody will be wearing masks. Fine, but why is it such a big deal at meetings and then 10 minutes later it's irrelevant? (We didn't attend, btw.)

My family is unjabbed, and probably everyone is aware, but this apparently didn't matter to our FSG overseer. And I've noticed in our city most stores & restaurants are basically returning to "normal" and hardly anyone wears masks.
I just have to chime in here and give my short story of inconsistency with the masks. It actually has a positive ending.
2 weekends ago we had a gathering of friends from our former congregation for Karaoke. My wife over-invited and our livingroom was packed with 27 people. Some of them chose to keep masks on part of the time. We had drinks and food so all masks came off for that and to sing of course. And my wife made everyone sing. One sister wasn't going to come due to fear but her daughters car was giving trouble so she drove the daughters and stayed. At first she refused to come inside (we had a tent and chairs set up outside as well) but eventually she came in and even joined in the fun singing with her girls (without a mask). We had a lot of much needed fun and de-stressing together as a group. Some chose to put their masks back on occasionally (God knows why) but if it makes them feel comfortable, so be it. I got to hug my motherly sisters and chat with them face to face for the first time in 2 years (can't do that at the hall). Everyone had a great time and were thanking us asking when the next one will be.
A week and a half later and no reports of illness...Imagine that!
I think we just have to view them as traumatized little sheep...skinned and thrown about. Help them to aleviate their fear. Show them how. They've forgotten.
 

Jess

Well-known member
Jess, you are justified for feeling downhearted over this. It is lunacy. I am seeing so many inconsistencies it makes my head spin. What I'm wondering with this situation is ... are these people going to the in-person meetings, and if so, why the insistence on remaining contactless? Are they not sitting directly next to one another, brushing shoulders etc? Is it because you are not juiced-up she feels you should distance yourself? Just curious because there are so many strange concepts floating around here too.

I haven't been back to in-person meetings but my husband and daughter go, and they say everyone is masked. Last weekend we were pressed by Field Service Group Overseer to join the entire group for hospitality (feeding the speaker after meeting) at his home. That would mean about 20-25 people if everyone showed up. He assured us, don't worry you don't have to wear a mask, nobody will be wearing masks. Fine, but why is it such a big deal at meetings and then 10 minutes later it's irrelevant? (We didn't attend, btw.)

My family is unjabbed, and probably everyone is aware, but this apparently didn't matter to our FSG overseer. And I've noticed in our city most stores & restaurants are basically returning to "normal" and hardly anyone wears masks.
Thank you @MuleJule. Yes, there seems to be no rhyme or reason to anything COVID related ugggh. That good your FSG overseer seems to be reasonable though!
 

Jess

Well-known member
I just have to chime in here and give my short story of inconsistency with the masks. It actually has a positive ending.
2 weekends ago we had a gathering of friends from our former congregation for Karaoke. My wife over-invited and our livingroom was packed with 27 people. Some of them chose to keep masks on part of the time. We had drinks and food so all masks came off for that and to sing of course. And my wife made everyone sing. One sister wasn't going to come due to fear but her daughters car was giving trouble so she drove the daughters and stayed. At first she refused to come inside (we had a tent and chairs set up outside as well) but eventually she came in and even joined in the fun singing with her girls (without a mask). We had a lot of much needed fun and de-stressing together as a group. Some chose to put their masks back on occasionally (God knows why) but if it makes them feel comfortable, so be it. I got to hug my motherly sisters and chat with them face to face for the first time in 2 years (can't do that at the hall). Everyone had a great time and were thanking us asking when the next one will be.
A week and a half later and no reports of illness...Imagine that!
I think we just have to view them as traumatized little sheep...skinned and thrown about. Help them to aleviate their fear. Show them how. They've forgotten.
Thats aweomse good job! And I think that is a great way to view our brothers and sisters right now.
 

A.M.S.

Member
Hi A.M.S.,

Don't dump them yet. This one needs to percolate a bit more to see what transpires in the near future. It could go both ways but if it goes good, then you will be glad you did not act in haste. If it goes badly, then you have additional fodder for a more solid answer. Mick is right, you are really the only one who can answer this for yourself. Maybe ask Jehovah for help dealing with their feeding your resentment levels. I feel for you so much and I hope things get better for you very soon!!
It's been almost a year of this now... and I can't even talk to them about this because they'll take it too personally and become easily offended.
 

Asadour

Well-known member
@A.M.S.

oh sweetie i can’t imagine how difficult your situation is right now- my heart goes out to you so much. @Medi-tator and @MickHewitt are right, perhaps time will bear out a solution, and of course keep asking Jehovah for guidance. I will keep you in my prayers.

You know, i have said this many times to people in your situation- the relationships within the org, even amongst family, are tenuous at best because JWs are always policing each other- always scanning to pick up on even the most minor infraction, or slip up, what have you, so it makes maintaining these relationships exhausting for someone in your position. You get to the point where you just can’t carry the relationship anymore or you’ll go mad!

And this situation is wholly different because you know you cannot under any circumstance get any of these injections. Your life is worth so much more than to risk it just to go along to get along. You can’t risk your life or your health, not even for your unwitting JW family who are mentally super-glued to the Gov Body. It’s so profoundly tragic.

Please keep us updated- we are all here for you.

Kim
 
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