Yes, I agree, - my hope is that they are just letting me be off to the side until Jehovah steps in and straightens things out. I'm older, and most of the elders here are too. I told one that this isn't the organization I got baptized into, and he didn't make a reply, - I think of that as a good sign. For me, right now, I just consider it a dangerous place to be spiritually. Maybe some of them are staying to help ones when everything hits the fan - so to speak.
@22:20 of the video my response:
It is true. Jones had armed goons go through and execute those who refused to drink the Kool-aid
horrifying.
that’s exactly how i felt. but because of my legal background, i took it a step further and i felt as if Watchtower breached its contract with me and many others; it also committed misrepresentation by omission for not honestly disclosing all of its prophetic failures over the decades.
That is so right!-- i do honestly feel betrayed and mislead - that's not the contract i signed.
Thanks for sharing that wonderful honest expression. My older sister has lupus. I had lupus-like symptoms triggered by statins. The statins almost killed me before I figured out what was happening. I did the deep dive, and became friends with a couple who wrote a detailed expose' on how the corrupt FDA approved the first statin drug. Statins are scientifically a poison. A mycotoxin. They don't have "side effects", it is simply what they do, slowly destroy every single part of your bodily function. They can trigger ALS, lupus, etc. as well. A sister in my congregation, who I really liked, had lupus. She died a few months ago. About 38 years old. Her health was very poor for years, largely due to aggressive treatment of her symptoms with drugs. I'm pretty sure she took the jabs, and it just finished her off. I consider her murdered by the medical/pharma system. A slow tortuous murder over many years. And she was such a sweet girl. Just tragic.
They had fully equipped "medical" trailers that one had to go to each day for a "checkup". They gave people pills to "help" them. It was a mass MKultra medical/psychological experiment. "You can check in, but you can never leave."
It is all here, if you can stomach it. It was not about the "kool-aid". They were murdered outright.
In my opinion, one can no longer remain an elder without becoming bloodguilty. I'm with those who have taken a stand and resigned or been deleted. And there are many. What sharing is there between good and evil?
In actual real-time application, they are only fallible in the past tense. In real-time application, all must treat the GB as infallible. If one speaks as the very mouth and "channel" of Jehovah, then by default, it must be true. And if one does not treat their expressions and "updates" as infallible, and explains from the Bible why the GB is wrong, at the moment; then.....well you know from personal experience....akin to blasphemy....
you’re right. and they never say when or what they err on unless time or circumstances reveal it and they have no other choice but to acknowledge it. Otherwise they do their utmost to memory-hole any errors by removing JWs access to past publications, by editing past publications, assigning errors to old light and worst of all, as in cases of CSA but not limited to CSA (their U.N. association comes to mind), they lie. It’s really sinister when u think about it.
i did not know this. my doc is constantly pushing these drugs on me. i don’t take them because something inside me just didn’t sit right with these drugs but i didn’t know they were this dangerous.
Yeah Kim that talk by Herd was the epitome of guilt mongering. It reminds me of an idea I had for a bumper sticker that I thought up in the late 70's..."Powered By Guilt"
. I think of that often thanks to the constant guilt messaging from WT. uuggghhhh!
There are 15 elders in the congregation Driven and I have recently written our version of an eye-opening letter to. That was actually already 3 full months ago. I would have kind of expected at least one of those elders to step down by now, not as a result of our letter of course but as a result of the Governing Body's own glaring acts of self adulation and inviting, rather insisting by serious implication that everyone blindly commit idolatry. "Shut Up And Obey" is their attitude and I thought at least one if not a few more elders in the congregation would have seen the fallacy of that by now. But then again, as was stated earlier, maybe they are hanging out in silence to be of spiritual aid when the excrement hits the fan. I agree with you and Joe however, yes that would be living a lie.
what do you make of it?
The reasons the Witnesses can endure the pretences of reality are twofold. Primary is the fact that to them, there way of life IS reality. (Perhaps this is why they are happy take on board the “illogical” instructions from the GB. It is similar in its reward to a child being given a sweet. Think how rewarding it would be for others to see your “go-bag” by the front door as instructed). Therefore they do not question the issues that to them are now an everyday reassurance. And that is the second factor. Reassurance. Their thinking is spiritual, their teachers are spiritual, their existence is spiritual - though substitute ‘spiritual‘ for ‘ill defined’. (Hence the sales pitch of ‘new light’). The blend of spirituality with undefined boundaries allows for the juggling of what is good and right, for how such is defined. If you think about it, it is similar in its test to the original test in Eden. (Loosely put of course, and in terms of people letting others decide what is good and bad for them). This is made all the easier as each meeting (zoom or otherwise now) repeats the same mental mantra of conditioning. Thus Jehovah is changing the reality.…for all of us. What other way is there for us all to see things in their true perspective?
|The insight Book says under bloodguilt;
There is also 15 elders in my congregation. I resigned in June 2021 over the GB stand on the injections. Only one other elder is not jabbed. But even he abandoned me and did not speak up for me. They all threw me under the bus, even my friend the CO. My years as a friend to these brothers, my 28 years of faithful service as an elder, my 39 years as a faithful JW; none of it amounted to a hill of beans when I dared to resign because it was an untenable situation for me to approve the unscriptural course the GB was taking. But at least there are others that have also taken a stand. Bethel is in damage control mode now trying to shore up faith in the GB.