Hi Joel, same Question I have as well. Back in 2014 for 3yrs I partook firstly secretly then publicly in my own congregation, big mistake. Eventually I told the elders it was a mistake they could not contain their joy. Of course my publisher profile has ? on it. At first I was unsure where I was meant to be but now I am happy to stay human and be a recipient subject On earth. My gran eventually in her later years partook of the embelms so I asked my dad what did he think. He said ‘no chance’. My point what does it matter. Some special people who don’t like their food, don’t enjoy having a physical body and don’t want to enjoy our beautiful planet, these people will become as angels constantly having governmental responsibilities for 1000yrs, no holidays on a nice beach. Who really are better off. Of course churchgoers have the belief that the earth will be burnt up and heaven will be marvellous. Then they talk of enjoyable garden they will have. Madness! angels don’t garden in heaven. Faithful male Muslims are promised lots of vestal virgins as if heaven is a place of orgies for them. Ha Ha If you genuinely believe in your heart partake in the end it’s between you and Jehovah and as long we don’t get the beast number or mark at Armageddon we will survive wherever we go. The most important thing is being friends with our God. Many regards, P
I do not think that one can compare earthy experiences with those spiritual. How could anyone with heavenly hope, not love the work of the Creator on earth, including the construct of their own physical body? Also, the spirit being is not hampered by the need for rest or holidays or constrained by the element of time. For instance, it is unlikely that the “day nor the hour” is a point in time, but that of a need to intervene for a multiplicity of reasons stated in the bible, Time is a law, a product of creation. There was a ‘time’, contradictorily, when time was not a factor of consideration.
The calling of heavenly existence is not a state of mind so much as a spiritual endowment, not a consequence of understanding or insight. It is a gift. That much is illustrated by the occurrence of the spirit on the apostles and followers at that time, and that it was a gift. In other words, the spirit was added to them, rather than developed from within from a person‘s own spirituality. How can man conceive of himself, insight into the spiritual world? How could we evolve such an artefact of spiritual insight from an imperfect mind and body? Neither would judgement be from physical insight, but from insight spiritual. It cannot otherwise be justice.
Whatever anointing is, it is not based on understanding. Peter was denying ever knowing Christ. Thomas didn’t believe Jesus was resurrected. Peter was used by Satan to tell Christ that his end did not need to be thus and was rebuked by Christ for doing so. In fact, most if not all of the apostles assumed Christ‘s kingdom would be earthly.
The scripture also suggests that being ‘called‘, is no more than an invitation because of those called, not many are chosen. Therefore it suggests that a ‘sense of what happens’ is given to an individual, but that the response, if it is to be developed, requires action from the individual. It is that action then, that determines acceptance. It must come from within. If that is the case, then the recipient must be aware of the request to prove their mettle, and the onus is upon them to respond. How or when, is personal to them, but the invitation is not a sense of not belonging in the proscribed arena of existence in which one finds ones’s self born into, but in awareness of a greater truth in purpose. Perhaps it is the response to the question, “What is truth?”
In our limited thinking we are bound by the physical interpretation of our lives in an imperfect form. We are no less alive because of that, but as the bible says, we are ‘veiled’ from the greater understanding. It may be reasonable to assume then, that the lifting of that veil, just a fraction, is an invitation for the proposed anointed to lift it further. Our response determines our future, clearly. It is how that is interpreted and implemented then, that determines our true place in things spiritual and thus not from within ourselves. It would require a detachment from the flesh (and all that means) and the implementation of values within and of faith, to divorce one’s self with spiritual reasoning, from flesh - enough to willingly sacrifice such for a different meaning within Jehovah’s gift of life. We already are aware of that possibility because of the existence of spiritual beings. The shell our life is contained In, whether spirit or flesh, is not the issue. Rather it is a means to participate in Jehovah’s purpose in a different manner. As mankind will be perfect in time, how can he/she be less than perfect than the existence of spirit form? The bible asks ‘How can the body say to the feet, I have no use for you?‘ How could either existence offer greater praise to Jehovah that the perfect abilities given them to appreciate such within their given role? The gift is completeness. And the fact is, that some are to find their completeness given to them elsewhere, should they see a value in that offer. That’s my hypothesis anyway. No more than that.
