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BARNABY THE DOG.

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I saw in one of the articles on e-watchman (https://e-watchman.com/the-apostasy-of-the-governing-body/) that covid is stated as a biowapen. Since we’re truth seekers, I would like to point out the following facts. After that please make up your own mind if covid really is leaked from a lab or just a brilliant marketing scheme.

First, lets look at the symptoms for both at the CDC website.

The symptoms for flu are:
  • fever* or feeling feverish/chills
  • cough
  • sore throat
  • runny or stuffy nose
  • muscle or body aches
  • headaches
  • fatigue (tiredness)
  • some people may have vomiting and diarrhea, though this is more common in children than adults.
(https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm)

The symptoms for covid are:
  • Fever or chills
  • Cough
  • Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
  • Fatigue
  • Muscle or body aches
  • Headache
  • New loss of taste or smell
  • Sore throat
  • Congestion or runny nose
  • Nausea or vomiting
  • Diarrhea
(https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html)

At first glance the list of symptoms for Covid looks longer but diarrhea is mentioned seperate from vomitting. So the remaining differences remain loss of smell or taste and shortness of breath/difficulty breathing.
Let’s dive into loss of smell or taste. Does this not occur with the flu?
Look at this NHS website (NHS is the British National Health Care Service). They list loss of smell and taste as a symptom of the flu.

So what about shortness of breath? The Mayo clinic states the following:
If you have emergency signs and symptoms of the flu, get medical care right away. For adults, emergency signs and symptoms can include:
  • Difficulty breathing or shortness of breath
The same Mayo clinic states that the difference covid19 and the flu boils down to the virus that causes the illness (Sars-COV-2 vs Influenza A or B), see https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vs-flu/art-20490339

Now please look at the Dr. Fauci’s pronunciation at the Milken Institute in 2019:
Click to watch
Flu has disappeared from statistics in most countries and has been replaces with covid.

I’m no brainiac but I reckon it’s just a brilliant marketing scheme from Satan’s media cronies.

Thankfully we now have monkey pox to distract us. And that just wouldn’t happen to be a side effect of the jabs or shingles now would it? 🤔
Nah, probably not.
Actually Sunshower, those descriptions you list are more likely apply to the elderly than covid and the whole world makes a profit from us!
 

SusanB

Well-known member
I saw in one of the articles on e-watchman (https://e-watchman.com/the-apostasy-of-the-governing-body/) that covid is stated as a biowapen. Since we’re truth seekers, I would like to point out the following facts. After that please make up your own mind if covid really is leaked from a lab or just a brilliant marketing scheme.

First, lets look at the symptoms for both at the CDC website.

The symptoms for flu are:
  • fever* or feeling feverish/chills
  • cough
  • sore throat
  • runny or stuffy nose
  • muscle or body aches
  • headaches
  • fatigue (tiredness)
  • some people may have vomiting and diarrhea, though this is more common in children than adults.
(https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm)

The symptoms for covid are:
  • Fever or chills
  • Cough
  • Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
  • Fatigue
  • Muscle or body aches
  • Headache
  • New loss of taste or smell
  • Sore throat
  • Congestion or runny nose
  • Nausea or vomiting
  • Diarrhea
(https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html)

At first glance the list of symptoms for Covid looks longer but diarrhea is mentioned seperate from vomitting. So the remaining differences remain loss of smell or taste and shortness of breath/difficulty breathing.
Let’s dive into loss of smell or taste. Does this not occur with the flu?
Look at this NHS website (NHS is the British National Health Care Service). They list loss of smell and taste as a symptom of the flu.

So what about shortness of breath? The Mayo clinic states the following:
If you have emergency signs and symptoms of the flu, get medical care right away. For adults, emergency signs and symptoms can include:
  • Difficulty breathing or shortness of breath
The same Mayo clinic states that the difference covid19 and the flu boils down to the virus that causes the illness (Sars-COV-2 vs Influenza A or B), see https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vs-flu/art-20490339

Now please look at the Dr. Fauci’s pronunciation at the Milken Institute in 2019:
Click to watch
Flu has disappeared from statistics in most countries and has been replaces with covid.

I’m no brainiac but I reckon it’s just a brilliant marketing scheme from Satan’s media cronies.

Thankfully we now have monkey pox to distract us. And that just wouldn’t happen to be a side effect of the jabs or shingles now would it? 🤔
Nah, probably not.
I have great respect for Dr. Fleming and his research on the spike protein is that it has been manipulated to be more dangerous and infections by “grafting” onto the spike protein elements of HIV, Mad Cow disease and a few other heinous diseases that I cannot recall at the moment. The way it attaches to human cells has been modified to make it more infectious. I definitely think it is a bio-weapon without a doubt. It was made in a lab where they were doing “gain of function” research and COVID-19 is the result of that research.

And, I just saw your newest post above. I could not disagree more. The vaccine is a leaky vaccine in that it never did prevent infection. It was only meant to mitigate the severity of the disease, which it does only temporarily and then actually reverses. And, the side effects/inflammation in a certain percentage of people can be deadly or cause disability. So, the variants are created by the vaccine and herd immunity is now an impossibility because of the vaccine program. This is called ”antibody dependent enhancement“. They knew all of this before they started the vaccine program.
 

יהוה_saves

Well-known member
I agree with you.

they took the common cold and flu and weaponized it against us, then started a mass media campaign of lies.

Folks panicked- they ran to the ER for no reason, many were admitted and put on the deadly Remdesivir, put on deadly ventilators (perhaps so they couldn’t speak?) refused visitors (who would no doubt advocate for them), and left for dead.

There is a harrowing story of a man who was in a car accident- he was life-flighted to a hospital where he was promptly treated for his injuries. He woke up on a ventilator. Shocked and dismayed, he ripped the ventilator hose out and called for a nurse and they told him while he was convalescing for his injuries he tested positive for Covid-19 so the ventilated him. The man was outraged.

i never believed this scam from the beginning.

They did this to get people to run headlong without thinking, into a deadly injection they lyingly called a “vaccine”.

The GB promoted this massive lie, it knew full well it was a scam from the beginning. The GB + helpers- the entire leadership of WT is blood guilty on a massive scale.

this is my opinion.
 

יהוה_saves

Well-known member
i think this is worse than we realize.

this entire campaign was deliberate and it was started to deliberately get people to accept deadly injections that those behind this scheme knew from the beginning were not vaccines- and were never vaccines.

think of all of Jehovah’s people that fell for this scheme that are dead and/or dying because the leadership told them to get these injections.

the leadership of WT are all strongly vetted, 33° Freemasons- they are aligned with other 33° Freemason world leaders, they lied to Jehovah’s sheep.

They are irredeemable- their blood guilt has amassed all the way to heaven.
 

SusanB

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That is absolutely fine. Maybe I should explain my reason for posting this; believing that if it is indeed a virus caused by gain of function, it causes fear (what I see as the reason for this “pandemic”).
If you look at it as a virus like the flu, which is not deadly or threatening to most people, it gives you peace of mind.

I’m not trying to convince anyone, it just caught my eye while reading the article.
I recovered from COVID with no lasting effects. But my husband now has Atrial Fibrillation from COVID-19. My 93 year old mother also ended up with Atrial Fibrillation from COVID-19 and my sister recovered with no lasting effects. My mother almost died when they put the pacemaker in. My husband and I caught the virus in December 2019 before anyone even knew what COVID was but we were driving for Uber in Hawaii and we had a lot of mainland Chinese tourists during that December. I have no doubt it is a serious disease that can cause death and disability. Additionally, I looked up the number of deaths in the US for 2019 and 2020 and there was about 400,000 to 500,000 more deaths during 2020, which I believe was caused by COVID. That said, I do think the fear is exaggerated and yet it is still a real problem for too many people, but current safe therapeutics would save lives and reduce the disabilities from it.
 

SusanB

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I’m not trying to downplay anything that has happened to you but have you clicked on this link and scrolled down?

It states:

When to see a doctor​

Most people who get the flu can treat themselves at home and often don't need to see a doctor.

If you have flu symptoms and are at risk of complications, see your doctor right away. Taking antiviral drugs may reduce the length of your illness and help prevent more-serious problems.

If you have emergency signs and symptoms of the flu, get medical care right away. For adults, emergency signs and symptoms can include:

  • Difficulty breathing or shortness of breath
  • Chest pain
  • Ongoing dizziness
  • Seizures
  • Worsening of existing medical conditions
  • Severe weakness or muscle pain
Like I said, we caught the virus before anyone knew what it was and so we treated it like you would the flu. We thought it was a really bad flu. But the flu does not give you Atrial Fibrillation. As far as medical advice, I’m good and not looking for any.
 

SusanB

Well-known member
I’m sorry. I’m not looking for trouble and don’t want to upset you.
I’m not either, but truth is important and some people will not take you seriously if you don’t admit the truth. Why the increased in US deaths for 2020? It wasn’t the vaccine because that wasn’t rolled out until 2021. I have personal experience with this in my family. It is definitely a bigger issue than the flu.
 

יהוה_saves

Well-known member
I recovered from COVID with no lasting effects. But my husband now has Atrial Fibrillation from COVID-19. My 93 year old mother also ended up with Atrial Fibrillation from COVID-19 and my sister recovered with no lasting effects. My mother almost died when they put the pacemaker in. My husband and I caught the virus in December 2019 before anyone even knew what COVID was but we were driving for Uber in Hawaii and we had a lot of mainland Chinese tourists during that December. I have no doubt it is a serious disease that can cause death and disability. Additionally, I looked up the number of deaths in the US for 2019 and 2020 and there was about 400,000 to 500,000 more deaths during 2020, which I believe was caused by COVID. That said, I do think the fear is exaggerated and yet it is still a real problem for too many people, but current safe therapeutics would save lives and reduce the disabilities from it.
i know people who have lasting effects from Covid 19. My sister has long Covid. My daughter had Covid too and she is fine.

Without going into too much detail, me, my son and my husband all got sick last year at the same time, it lasted for a day. I was vomiting all day (sorry TMI) my son and husband both spiked a 100°F temp. i don’t think it was a virus that caused this and i have my suspicions that we were attacked with some bioweapen.

so I do think there is an illness perhaps caused by a bioweapon.

Nobody has ever produced a copy of this virus, it only exists as a computer generated facsimile- so i think it is something else- perhaps a prions disease? i don’t know. I’m only speculating.

Something is def rotten in Denmark.

adding here- i believe the PCR test is fraudulent and generated mostly false positives. the bulk of those who arrived at the hospital for care IMO had the flu, not Covid 19. The numbers were all a lie. This thing had been, no question, planned for years- every detail.
 

יהוה_saves

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@Driven

my sister has been to the ER three times since mid 2020 for A-fib. She never had it before she got Covid.

Ive always believed that Covid was a real thing- but i don’t believed it is a virus. only because it has never been reproduced like every other virus.

There are just so many unanswered questions.

Why did they use a device to test for it that renders false positives?

Why did the CDC adjust its numbers from 94% to 6% dying from Covid as the only factor in cause of death?

so many strange anomalies.

Then the fact that this is Satan’s ugly, lying, murdering system we are dealing with.
 

יהוה_saves

Well-known member
To quote Robert’s above mentioned article: ”Satan’s influence permeates the world. That is why there is no truth. The only book of truth describes the last king of Satan’s world as continuing to throw truth to the earth. That process is most evident at this time, especially in connection with Covid.”

As the Dutch saying goes “the truth lies somewhere in the middle”, we can agree to disagree. If not, no hard feeling.
it’s so hard- there are def many anomalies surrounding this entire thing.

i don’t want to hurt anybody with my opinions either. I do know people that have had Covid- at least two have the long Covid.

Im just an armchair observer.

perhaps delete this thread with the understanding that each of us carries our own load- each of us have our own life experience that dictates our thinking- and Jehovah will sort this out for us.

I think all things will eventually come out:

Luke 12:2 But there is nothing carefully concealed that will not be revealed, and nothing secret that will not become known. Therefore, whatever you say in the darkness will be heard in the light, and what you whisper in private rooms will be preached from the housetops.
 

SusanB

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i know people who have lasting effects from Covid 19. My sister has long Covid. My daughter had Covid too and she is fine.

Without going into too much detail, me, my son and my husband all got sick last year at the same time, it lasted for a day. I was vomiting all day (sorry TMI) my son and husband both spiked a 100°F temp. i don’t think it was a virus that caused this and i have my suspicions that we were attacked with some bioweapen.

so I do think there is an illness perhaps caused by a bioweapon.

Nobody has ever produced a copy of this virus, it only exists as a computer generated facsimile- so i think it is something else- perhaps a prions disease? i don’t know. I’m only speculating.

Something is def rotten in Denmark.

adding here- i believe the PCR test is fraudulent and generated mostly false positives. the bulk of those who arrived at the hospital for care IMO had the flu, not Covid 19. The numbers were all a lie. This thing had been, no question, planned for years- every detail.
Possibly there is some difference in semantics, but from experts in their fields that I trust, COVID-19 was created using a bat virus and then modified so that it would infect humans and be very contagious (gain of function). So, I do think it is a virus and a bio-weapon. It is the spike protein that is the toxin in both the virus as well as the vaccine. The vaccine causes the human body to manufacture copious amounts of the spike protein, which together the lipid nano-particle as the delivery system, are both toxic to the human body. Some people react worse than others. Immune response and inflammation are factors in how different people have different experiences with both COVID-19 and the vaccine. Some people have been able to handle the vaccine without apparent side effects but they really don’t know what will happen to their immune system in the long term not to mention the possibility of Mad Cow Disease since the spike protein and the lipid nano-particle both cross the blood brain barrier. I believe as some experts stated, in the next few months we will see a COVID variant caused by the leaky vaccines that will kill many of the vaccinated while those who have not been vaccinated are more likely to develop a healthy immune response to it. This “prediction” of a coming deadly variant really dove tails into many other anticipated events for the same time of this summer to the fall such as food shortage.
 

יהוה_saves

Well-known member
Possibly there is some difference in semantics, but from experts in their fields that I trust, COVID-19 was created using a bat virus and then modified so that it would infect humans and be very contagious (gain of function). So, I do think it is a virus and a bio-weapon. It is the spike protein that is the toxin in both the virus as well as the vaccine. The vaccine causes the human body to manufacture copious amounts of the spike protein, which together the lipid nano-particle as the delivery system, are both toxic to the human body. Some people react worse than others. Immune response and inflammation are factors in how different people have different experiences with both COVID-19 and the vaccine. Some people have been able to handle the vaccine without apparent side effects but they really don’t know what will happen to their immune system in the long term not to mention the possibility of Mad Cow Disease since the spike protein and the lipid nano-particle both cross the blood brain barrier. I believe as some experts stated, in the next few months we will see a COVID variant caused by the leaky vaccines that will kill many of the vaccinated while those who have not been vaccinated are more likely to develop a healthy immune response to it. This “prediction” of a coming deadly variant really dove tails into many other anticipated events for the same time of this summer to the fall such as food shortage.
i agree with you completely about the leaky vaccines, and there are other strange ingredients- hydra vulgaris has been found, graphene oxide, and who knows what else is in these vaccines-.

A nurse in EU discovered there are at least three versions of the vaccine, one being inert. This probably accounts for why some don’t have any adverse reaction. They can’t poison people all at once.

I also think that hospital protocol greatly aggravated the illness causing injury to people that would have otherwise recovered on their own.

Remdesivir caused bodily harm and death to many people. This medication never cleared the FDA back when Fauci tried to get it approved years ago because of its high rate of adverse side effect and death.

Right now, I am going mostly on sheer speculation based upon what ive read.

My sister had this and my daughter had it. Others on this forum have had it- at least one has long covid.

Whether our opinions are speculative, one thing i think we (everyone here) can agree on is that there remains unanswered anomalies surrounding this pandemic.
 

SusanB

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i agree with you completely about the leaky vaccines, and there are other strange ingredients- hydra vulgaris has been found, graphene oxide, and who knows what else is in these vaccines-.

A nurse in EU discovered there are at least three versions of the vaccine, one being inert. This probably accounts for why some don’t have any adverse reaction. They can’t poison people all at once.

I also think that hospital protocol greatly aggravated the illness causing injury to people that would have otherwise recovered on their own.

Remdesivir caused bodily harm and death to many people. This medication never cleared the FDA back when Fauci tried to get it approved years ago because of its high rate of adverse side effect and death.

Right now, I am going mostly on sheer speculation based upon what ive read.

My sister had this and my daughter had it. Others on this forum have had it- at least one has long covid.

Whether our opinions are speculative, one thing i think we (everyone here) can agree on is that there remains unanswered anomalies surrounding this pandemic.
Well I think one thing is certain. Some very powerful people wanted to kill as many people as they could via COVID-19, Remdesivir, the vaccine, denying therapeutics and censoring information.
 
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