Update on meeting with the Elders 12/28/21

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Medi-tator

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Yes, I agree with you. The point I made about the 2017 Watchtower is that they admit they are infallible and have sometimes been wrong in organisational DIRECTION and that this jab business could quite possibly turn out to be another mistake on direction. Whenever I've pointed anyone to this Watchtower, everything goes silent! Weird, to say the least.. but then it's not much different to pointing jabbed people in the world to information about what's in the jabs, they'd rather not know because it's scary!
Aloha Proverbs 14 v 15!

In the case of the GB who have declared themselves faithful servants in advance of their Master Jesus declaring them as such, as the saying goes, 'the audio does not match the video'. Yes, albeit super rarely, they will sneak in a comment here and there wherein they admit they do not possess infallibility and have indeed made mistakes, however their actual true messaging is more like this; "no we are not infallible, but we are never wrong! You disagree with us, especially publicly in any way, and we will need to have a talk in the back room!"

I would like to see them admit that they make mistakes and are not infallible as frequently as they heap endless, self aggrandizing and shameless praise upon themselves. I do not like saying the following because I am growing a little weary of participating in any GB bashing, but I willingly take part in this, my post today, because I am angry with them, again! They continue to hold my daughter hostage as a full time worker and she is defending their insanity. So, here it is; They would all be fired if they were in business with me and on my team! I have super low tolerance for over-stretched egos.

Sorry for the negative rant Proverbs!

God's will be done in all our cases, ours and the WT Org!
 
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surfergirl

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Aloha Proverbs 14 v 15!

In the case of the GB who have declared themselves faithful servants in advance of their Master Jesus declaring them as such, as the saying goes, 'the audio does not match the video'. Yes, albeit super rarely, they will sneak in a comment here and there wherein they admit they do not possess infallibility and have indeed made mistakes, however their actual true messaging is more like this; "no we are not infallible, but we are never wrong! You disagree with us, especially publicly in any way, and we will need to have a talk in the back room!"

I would like to see them admit that they make mistakes and are not infallible as frequently as they heap endless, self aggrandizing and shameless praise upon themselves. I do not like saying the following because I am growing a little weary of participating in any GB bashing, but I willingly take part in this, my post today, because I am angry with them, again! They continue to hold my daughter hostage as a full time worker and she is defending their insanity. So, here it is; They would all be fired if they were in business with me and on my team! I have super low tolerance for over-stretched egos.

Sorry for the negative rant Proverbs!

God's will be done in all our cases, ours and the WT Org!
They have done a tremendous amount of damage, and we have more scars than we know. You can rant if you want to. [ I think it helps us to keep moving forward ] - and you rarely do it anyway, that I have seen.
 

Nomex

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Yes, I agree with you. The point I made about the 2017 Watchtower is that they admit they are infallible and have sometimes been wrong in organisational DIRECTION and that this jab business could quite possibly turn out to be another mistake on direction.
So, let's just point out the obvious, your comment you stated and I quoted it above, but I will do so again for emphasis, "The point I made about the 2017 Watchtower is that they admit they are infallible"...now I know what you meant, but this is called a "Freudian slip".

The fact is the whole Covid fiasco revealed their true arrogant nature in a way that cannot be ignored. When Loche states in Update I think it was 7, "we will be blessed, but more importantly we will have unity." That's not printed, that's a recorded deposition admissible in court, and one they can not deny! Unity is more important than Jehovah God's blessing, and there is no walking that back! You see the GB does not care if they are wrong, they only care if they are found out. Just like all criminals, they are not sorry about what they did wrong, they are only sorry if they get caught. So far they have been able to suppress the truth about the reality of who and what they are to most.

But what the GB fear the most is the truth! Just like the mob, the worst thing you can be when you are in the mob "is a RAT!" And what is a "rat"? Someone who tells the truth about what crimes the criminals are breaking, and giving evidence to those facts. There is nothing a Mob Boss hates more than someone telling the truth!

And what does the Mob do to a "Rat", they "take them out." The GB makes sure if you "rat them out" you will become "spiritually dead!" By having you DF'd, but the real point of "taking out a rat" is to silence them! Just question publicly anything the GB claims. Your credibility and your character will be assassinated so quick, if the Mob had that power, they could stop literally killing people! I mean, in many cases they could just wait, and there's good chance you'd kill yourself and save them the trouble. The power the GB have, the Mob only dreams they could have.

Get them to admit they made even one mistake when disfellowshipping someone!!!
 
So, let's just point out the obvious, your comment you stated and I quoted it above, but I will do so again for emphasis, "The point I made about the 2017 Watchtower is that they admit they are infallible"...now I know what you meant, but this is called a "Freudian slip".

The fact is the whole Covid fiasco revealed their true arrogant nature in a way that cannot be ignored. When Loche states in Update I think it was 7, "we will be blessed, but more importantly we will have unity." That's not printed, that's a recorded deposition admissible in court, and one they can not deny! Unity is more important than Jehovah God's blessing, and there is no walking that back! You see the GB does not care if they are wrong, they only care if they are found out. Just like all criminals, they are not sorry about what they did wrong, they are only sorry if they get caught. So far they have been able to suppress the truth about the reality of who and what they are to most.

But what the GB fear the most is the truth! Just like the mob, the worst thing you can be when you are in the mob "is a RAT!" And what is a "rat"? Someone who tells the truth about what crimes the criminals are breaking, and giving evidence to those facts. There is nothing a Mob Boss hates more than someone telling the truth!

And what does the Mob do to a "Rat", they "take them out." The GB makes sure if you "rat them out" you will become "spiritually dead!" By having you DF'd, but the real point of "taking out a rat" is to silence them! Just question publicly anything the GB claims. Your credibility and your character will be assassinated so quick, if the Mob had that power, they could stop literally killing people! I mean, in many cases they could just wait, and there's good chance you'd kill yourself and save them the trouble. The power the GB have, the Mob only dreams they could have.

Get them to admit they made even one mistake when disfellowshipping someone!!!
No, it wasn't a "Freudian slip" They admit in writing that they make mistakes in direction. It's up to each and every one of us to think about that and understand what that means. One thing it means is that we can't just blindly follow ANY one. The Bible trumps anything anyone might say. Jehovah will clean up his organisation like he's always done in the past. Maybe not until after Armageddon, who knows. I took to heart the words in proverbs 14 v 15 when I first started studying the Bible, and I've used them eversince, much to the chagrin of many people! That's one of the reasons I didn't follow my congregation to the jab queues.. Jehovah God tells us to ponder each step and don't be naïve. He couldn't make it any clearer if he tried! So there's really no excuse for his people to have run to the jab centres, people in the world, yes, I understand them running scared. It's all a big mess isn't it? I told my witness friends 18 months ago that this jab stuff was going to cause much more damage to Jehovah's organisation than the 1975 debacle. Me personally, I'm happy to wait on Jehovah, even if it means other humans class "disobedient" to him. 👌
 

Nomex

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No, it wasn't a "Freudian slip" They admit in writing that they make mistakes in direction. It's up to each and every one of us to think about that and understand what that means. One thing it means is that we can't just blindly follow ANY one. The Bible trumps anything anyone might say. Jehovah will clean up his organisation like he's always done in the past. Maybe not until after Armageddon, who knows. I took to heart the words in proverbs 14 v 15 when I first started studying the Bible, and I've used them eversince, much to the chagrin of many people! That's one of the reasons I didn't follow my congregation to the jab queues.. Jehovah God tells us to ponder each step and don't be naïve. He couldn't make it any clearer if he tried! So there's really no excuse for his people to have run to the jab centres, people in the world, yes, I understand them running scared. It's all a big mess isn't it? I told my witness friends 18 months ago that this jab stuff was going to cause much more damage to Jehovah's organisation than the 1975 debacle. Me personally, I'm happy to wait on Jehovah, even if it means other humans class "disobedient" to him. 👌
Ok, I don't know if there is a language gap, or just an "internet" interpretation gap, (or a Nomex gap :confused:) but everything in this last post I completely agree with!
 
So are you really asking which part I misinterpreted as crap and admitted I was wrong about, you want me to "clarify that"? I think this is the part where "an answer when mild turns away rage" reaches the limits of mortal man.
Haha! Now I'm even more confused. I can't even understand what you're trying to say now!! I tried to make my original comment come across clear and simple but I obviously failed 😅 never mind 😃
 
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Thanks.. need? Or want to do? That's a weird thing to say! I came here originally because I thought this group was for unjabbed witnesses, I was wrong, I didn't put my own advice/favourite scripture into practice!
 

Nomex

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Thanks.. need? Or want to do? That's a weird thing to say! I came here originally because I thought this group was for unjabbed witnesses, I was wrong, I didn't put my own advice/favourite scripture into practice!
It's immediately apparent you lost your temper. You came here to start something. You lost your temper because you failed! Don't let the door hit you in the rear end when you exit swiftly!
 
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