YAH, the Complete Name of GOD? YAHSHUA, GOD Manifested in Flesh? "Believers - What Satan Doesn't Want You To Know"

[Posstot]

I doubt that you read his explanation so why are you commenting? I asked for a real consideration of these ideas which I feel have merit.

The conclusion that Jesus is Jehovah is false; if you think his view has merit, why don't you explain it? I explained to you why it is false, it's up to you now to show that what is false can still be true.

 

[Maskita]

I have the entire book in my lap which I said was beautiful and pure. Presumably, you've been sifting through the organization's dribble for awhile and managed to discover some treasure of truth?

To be honest the page is written pretty vague. It starts off by saying "Scriptures clearly show, “I AM” is the Almighty Father." But that is not clearly true. That kind of statement is exactly what the Trinitarians claim all the time. It literally goes step by step at constructing a narrative asserting the words I AM is some kind of title. But there is no good reason to believe that. So why wouldn't I assume he was in support of a trinity when he is making the exact same argument they do? If saying I AM means God, does that means Rene Descartes was claiming to be God when he said, "I think therefore I am"? No. The more accurate way to quote Descartes would be, "I think therefore I exist." Similarly, Jesus wasn't claiming to be God. He was claiming he existed before Abraham. There is no mighty I AM. The Trinitarians made that up.

 

[Posstot]

Are you kidding? WHO CARES? He isn't a religion. I'm not asking you to follow him, I'm asking you to look at his insights regarding our Father and consider if they have merit. But that CAN'T be done unless you read his explanations.

This is NOT the brainstorming community, got it.

You got it!

Christianity did not originate with a brain storming session either.

 

[Maskita]

Even if he doesn't support the Trinity, the idea of once saved always saved is arguably even worse. It convinces people they don't need to change anything about themselves. I find it absurd anyone could argue against repentance. That isn't coming from God. That idea comes from the spirit of this world that wants us living in debauchery and sin. The enemy will give us as many excuses as we need. God loves everybody. He doesn't expect loyalty or obedience. Come on. That's absurd. It's not as if God asks too much of us. But that's the state of this world. It's not about God. It's about us. Do what makes us happy. Life is about pursuing feelings. That's all that matters to this world. Don't take this as an insult either. This isn't a problem just for you. It's a problem for all of us. We can always do better. But we will never improve if we don't change. I don't care how wholesome somebody appears to be, if they are pushing you away from this basic truth then they do not originate with God.

 

[Maskita]

And if we are going to proclaim God's name then WHY isn't pronunciation important? Isn't it important for many other names? Wouldn't it bring us closer to Him if we were to make an effort at accuracy? Don't words have sound and distinct frequency?

Jehovah or Yahweh, whichever you want, is an immortal spirit being. He existed before Hebrew was even a thing. He named himself for us using whatever languages would make since for people living at the time. It aided early humans in coming to know him. But clearly Jehovah understood that languages and dialects would change over time. I assure you he was not surprised by that. If I am trying to teach you something, the words are less important than the meaning behind them. It's not as if in heaven it is necessary God and all the angels talk using human languages. As long as we all know who we are talking about I don't think God minds that his name sounds different in different languages. Furthermore we really don't know for certain how the tetragrammaton was pronounced anyway. We weren't there. Which is another problem using ancient sources. A problem God would clearly have predicted seeing as though he was the one who confused our languages to begin with.

 

[Cristo]

Dear Everyone,

Would you take a look at this website and tell me what your thoughts are? I met this most lovely and learned man who is the writer of this message. He was a pastor and also a psychologist for many, many years. We met via what I would call "Divine Alignment" and he was carrying these little brochures that he created to share his message. (He is not part of any church.) As you will see, his name is nowhere on his work or website and he gifted me his book, which is very pure and beautiful. Like a book of deprogramming for people who have believed they were practicing true Christianity.

I am attaching one chapter(one page) of this book for you, entitled "Counterfeit Christianity":


YahshuaMessiah.com

SelahGrace, the first page that you show is titled "what Satan doesn't want you to know".

I can tell you the most important thing he doesn't want anybody to know is Gods name. He has gone to great lengths to keep people from getting to know the one true God. When any belief says that it is more accurate to use Yahweh because Jehovah isn't how his name was originally pronounced, this is simply another tool that Satan has used to divide and conquer those who want to worship God.

Maskita was correct when he said that it's not the pronunciation of the name, but the meaning behind it that matters. For example go to the Google translator and do an English to Hebrew translation of Yahweh. Then do it again and type in Jehovah. The same word comes up in Hebrew writing which is יהוה. God's name means "he causes to become", and regardless of what language you pronounce it in it will always mean "he causes to become".



Pronouncing Gods name in Hebrew doesn't get anybody closer to the true God in their worship to him, it's just using another language to say it. The fact is, Gods original pronunciation of his name was lost when he confused the languages of man, as Maskita also brought out. To make a claim that using Hebrew is the most accurate is simply not true, unless of course you speak Hebrew, then Yahweh is the accurate version of Gods name. If you speak English then Jehovah is the accurate way.

You should question any teaching that teaches otherwise because they are doing exactly what you your pamphlet mentions, in that they are implying that the only way to worship God is to use the Hebrew name of Yahweh, which means Satan is doing a good job within that belief because he already has you not using Gods name, Jehovah. Remember.... what "Satan doesn't want you to know"?

I'm not saying it's wrong to use Yahweh, but do you yourself actually speak Hebrew? If not, then why do you refuse to use Jehovah, the name of God in your own tongue?

 

[Watchman]

Dear Everyone,

Would you take a look at this website and tell me what your thoughts are? I met this most lovely and learned man who is the writer of this message. He was a pastor and also a psychologist for many, many years. We met via what I would call "Divine Alignment" and he was carrying these little brochures that he created to share his message. (He is not part of any church.) As you will see, his name is nowhere on his work or website and he gifted me his book, which is very pure and beautiful. Like a book of deprogramming for people who have believed they were practicing true Christianity.

I am attaching one chapter(one page) of this book for you, entitled "Counterfeit Christianity":


YahshuaMessiah.com

You are going to have the honor of being the first person banned from this forum

 

[The Black Sheep]

@SelahGrace777 Are you serious or just trolling? If history has taught us anything it's that Satan doesn't want us to know is what the bible says, not some packet from a guy who says resurrection and salvation are bad words lol. But if you are somehow actually sincere, you ought to consider this:

 

[Maskita]

@SelahGrace777 Are you serious or just trolling? If history has taught us anything it's that Satan doesn't want us to know is what the bible says, not some packet from a guy who says resurrection and salvation are bad words lol. But if you are somehow actually sincere, you ought to consider this:

Somehow I never saw that one. I thought I had seen all of Robert's videos.

 

[TheJehuChariot]

Thank you so much for sharing this. Absolutely loved it. Here I thought I'd seen all of Robert's videos too!

@SelahGrace777 Are you serious or just trolling? If history has taught us anything it's that Satan doesn't want us to know is what the bible says, not some packet from a guy who says resurrection and salvation are bad words lol. But if you are somehow actually sincere, you ought to consider this:

 

[JulioG]

Regarding whether it is Jehovah or Yawe, I really like Robert King's explanation ... but in case anyone is interested in digging deeper and having scholarly tests, I recommend that you look for Nehemia Gordon or read this blog that happened to you ... just that it is in Spanish and they will have to translate it but it is very complete ... it practically gives proof that it is Jehovah and not Yawe.

http://yehovah-el-es-elohim.blogspot.com/?m=1