The God Pill
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I am well aware of those two scriptures, those are the two that the WT uses to claim the demons cannot materialize bodies, but if you read what even the WT says for example in the insight book it says, "apparently they cannot materialize bodies." Now obviously they have not done that since the flood, however I do not think those scriptures really say anything specifically with regards to the restrictions on their abilities. For example, where it says,
this reminds of scriptures like the one where it says "Jehovah hardened the heart of Pharaoh" I'm convinced all that means is Jehovah allows their imperfect and wicked inclinations to control their thoughts and actions. In this case the term "darkness" simply refers to the fact that what they did was an unforgivable sin and that when they sinned, that delivered them into this judgement state of permanent darkness. And again with the scripture in Jude,
My argument is simply this, I think they did what they wanted to do prior to the flood, but about 5000 years too soon, and because Jehovah allowed them to do it back then, what I am basically saying is all we really know about them, is Jehovah has not allowed them to do what they did before the flood on a large scale since then, however, I do believe they may have done it on a small scale after the flood. If you look at the family of Goliath, they were all giants and the giants in the bible had 6 fingers, and toes on each hand and foot. (12) And giantism, is not something that would be a family trait that 3 brothers as in the case of the Goliath family would have. If yo0u read the account of the 12 spies, and read what Caleb says in response, he never denies that their were "Nephilim" in the land on Canaan, and we know for a fact that their were giants there. Caleb just says, that "Jehovah would deliver them into the hands of the Israelites."
Of course this is this is pure speculation, but I think it is absolutely based on some good evidence. If you've heard of Steve Qualye he's written extensively about giants and I think some of his thoughts of the matter make a lot of sense...and some is pure drivel, LOL, "the demons are disembodied spirits of the Nephilim" of course because they believe in an immortal soul. But some of his other thoughts on the subject are very thought provoking.
I've expressed before that I'm pretty skeptical towards but do not dismiss claims of a second incursion (the claims post flood giants were hybrids sired the same manner as pre-flood) I differentiate when I talk about the Deuteronomy 32 worldview by using the term second wave of defection in reference to the princes post Babel etc to indicate it did not neccesarily mean any more hybrids in OT times. I've watched a few hours of Quayle before but haven't consumed his books of documentaries I know a sister that's more in to him. generally I lean more towards giant clans being people that were either modified or founding ancestors in some fashion. I'm inclined to ask for summaries of the support you mention for second incursion theory as it would probably spare me and others measure of expense.
I don't follow how a part angel creature is supposed to have a 1-1 correspondence to human biophysics comparing it to immortal soul doctrine's a bit apples and oranges.