Rough draft letter to the elders...

Nomex

Well-known member
This is not even close to finished...and I'm not sure a certain half of me will let me do this even though that person completely agrees...anyway, here's what i got so far....




Needless to say, I was raised in the truth. The difference is, my father knew the bible and everything the Org put out better than anyone else, and all you needed to do, to have that education installed into you, was be one of his sons.

Back in the 80’s when I became a young man, and having this kind of background, I really started to dig deep into what was going on in the world.

But that happened partially on accident.

I needed extra credit in High School, and the janitor gave a presentation of the assignation of JFK. I didn’t know anything really one way or another, and everyone made fun of this guy. I had heard him ridiculed by people who’d seen his presentation. But I needed the credits so I went anyway, fully expecting to laugh and ridicule this guy afterwards.

What happened instead is I left that presentation thinking to myself, “wow, he made a lot of sense.” “back and to the left.” There’s never been a good argument why that happened from a shooter from behind. “Back and to the left” was from the perspective of Kennedy who was obviously shot from the front and not behind.


This was when I truly began to understand Satan’s power, and how he really does “transform himself into an angel of light” by being able to use his governments to cover up this kind of a crime.

It was then that I really began to wonder how much Satan was hiding. It makes sense after all, a demon, who’s intent is evil, and wants to make himself seem like he’s an angel of good, would cover-up is evil intent.

This is when I really began to dig deep. Around this same time, I met my wife we got and turns out she’d never been vaccinated. Her Mom also a Witness had researched vaccines, and decided the bad outweighed any good from vaccines, and so she never vaccinated her daughter. And she used a “religious exemption to avoid vaccinations for public schools.

Me being open minded, looked into it. Short version, way before my kids were born I knew I would never vaccinate my kids. Back in the 80’s the pharmaceutical companies threatened to stop manufacturing vaccines, because they were losing their shirts from liability lawsuits! In other words, their vaccines were injuring and killing people. But because the “whole world lies in the power of the wicked one” and congress rather than look into vaccine dangers, set up what many call the “vaccine injury fund.” And indeed that is what it is. You cannot sue a vaccine manufacturer now for damages from a bad vaccine that injures or kills you, you have to sue the government. Which have added an excise tax to vaccines to pay for the vaccine injuries. It is an evil demonic scam that the devil has made sure almost no one knows about.

So having said all of that, when my kids were born, we did not vaccinate them and used a religious exemption in part the scripture about the body being a temple.

So years before Covid, there was no way I would ever get another vaccine myself or vaccinate my kids. Vaccines are NOT SAFE OR EFFECTIVE. That is a Satanic lie!

Then rolled out “Covid”.

For many years we used the analogy of the Bible being the “owners manual for human beings because God was the creator.”

Well Covid was propagated off the PCR test, so I think we should look at what the creator of the PCR test had to say about using the PCR test as a diagnostic, and by extension since Fauci was using it that way, what the creator of the PCR put out in his “owners manual” for the PCR test.

1) …he said you cannot use it for what the whole world used it for, a diagnostic(in other words you cannot use the PCR to test whether someone has Covid or not.) and 2) he said Fauci was no scientist.




|So if we used the standard that the creator knows the most about what he created, then we have to conclude that Kerry Mullis set the definitive standard for the PCR test, and therefore everything the governments have been doing around the world is fraud and their conclusions are based on fraud and not “misinformation”. Rather your conclusions are based on misinformation since they all originate with the father of the lie. Kerry Mullis was not a government stooge. In fact he’s dead now.

My first red flag with regard to Covid came with the Mask hysteria. I use “masks” as part of the PPE for what I do for a living. I put “masks” in quotations, because, a “mask” had different meanings. In my case I have several respirators that I use. A “respirator” is defined as “A device worn over the mouth or nose or both to protect the respiratory tract from harmful dust or fumes”

Another definition, “a mask or device worn over the mouth and nose to protect the respiratory system by filtering out dangerous substances (such as dusts, fumes, or bacteria) from inhaled air”

Keyword here, “mask” and “by filtering out dangerous substances.”

I own several respirators. And they in fact, “filter out dangerous substances.” Some better than other like my $1200 PaPR. (Powered air Purifying Respirator.)

Your hanky, and your “surgeon mask” doesn’t do anything. And OSHA knows this because for 40 years they have regulated it. The surgeon suite is a giant respirator. That surgeon mask is a dust a sweat filter, nothing more!

But the real problem with “masks” is not that they don’t work, but for a fact they cause harm, especially to young children. They force people to re-breathe carbon dioxide in children, that can cause permanent brain damage.

For more than 20 years I have used and studied respirators. What happened in 2020 is clear evidence that the governments are controlled by Satan. OSHA has had laws regarding mask use for 40 plus years. They threw them all out the window like they didn’t exist, over night. FORTY YEARS of research and study, just to say, “Everyone needs to wear a mask”.

And literally a few days prior they levied tens of thousands of dollars of fines to companies who just told their employees to wear masks. You know why? Oh, boy, because there is a statute. An actual law, which prohibits any employer from requiring an employee to perform a task that requires a respirator, without giving them a medical evaluation. And if you “fail” the medical evaluation, you cannot be required to wear a mask, and if you are an actual Christian you cannot “strongly suggest” a person with a medical exemption, wear a mask.


In other words, “Strongly suggesting a mask” is in fact, against the actual law, since the law is not made up of executive orders. Maybe you guys no longer know there are three branches of government, The judiciary, the executive, and the legislative. The Legislative is the only branch that can make actual laws. And even then “congress shall make no law” means the legislative cannot change that law.
 
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TruthLover

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Really nicely structured Nomex. It seems good so far. You are certainly in your element with the masks, hopefully they take note. I've started to compile a letter to send to the branch, I'm finding it hard and have little experience to share, hopefully I get it sorted. Very encouraging to read yours thanks.
 

Watchman

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Staff member
If you want some input, I would leave out the family history and your opinions on vaccinations and the JFK assassination non sequitur and focus on the mask issue. You make some good points on masks. Of course, be prepared for the elders to tell you they are just following the slave, blah, blah, blah.
 

Sunshower

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My experience is that elders don’t want your point of view. They don’t want a dialogue, they want a monologue. From them to you, not the other way round. You will never get satisfaction in telling your side of the story, cause they don’t care.

The best advice I can give you is if you can avoid the talk due to “personal circumstances“ by all means try to get out of the talk altogether. No explanation needs to be given as they have to respect your privacy.

Good luck.
 

יהוה_saves

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If you want some input, I would leave out the family history and your opinions on vaccinations and the JFK assassination non sequitur and focus on the mask issue. You make some good points on masks. Of course, be prepared for the elders to tell you they are just following the slave, blah, blah, blah.
i would be surprised if they even get past the first sentence before putting it in his file for incrimination purposes. These guys DO NOT CARE. I learned this the hard way. When i left WT i did not bother with a letter or a long drawn out reason (though i certainly had one or perhaps many).

Short and and to the point gets their attention.

;however, i loved reading it, myself.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

Well-known member
My experience is that elders don’t want your point of view. They don’t want a dialogue, they want a monologue. From them to you, not the other way round. You will never get satisfaction in telling your side of the story, cause they don’t care.

The best advice I can give you is if you can avoid the talk due to “personal circumstances“ by all means try to get out of the talk altogether. No explanation needs to be given as they have to respect your privacy.

Good luck.
I would agree with you. It is nonetheless sad that that is the case, because when you understand the man/woman you understand their reasoning. One learns far more by listening than talking.
 

יהוה_saves

Well-known member
My experience is that elders don’t want your point of view. They don’t want a dialogue, they want a monologue. From them to you, not the other way round. You will never get satisfaction in telling your side of the story, cause they don’t care.

The best advice I can give you is if you can avoid the talk due to “personal circumstances“ by all means try to get out of the talk altogether. No explanation needs to be given as they have to respect your privacy.

Good luck.
haha i just posted my response before i read yours. I couldn’t agree more with you more, Sunshower.

I mean, some folks like to get stuff off their chest and that’s fine, but do so at the clear understanding that there are zero expectations of any meaningful response or engagement by the elders in the unlikely event that even one of them reads it. Honestly théy do NOT care one iota. Sad but true.
 

Sunshower

Well-known member
I would agree with you. It is nonetheless sad that that is the case, because when you understand the man/woman you understand their reasoning. One learns far more by listening than talking.
True in normal circumstances. But they don’t want to reason with apostates cause what if what they say is true? It would make them question their own faith and motives and they want to avoid that at all costs.

It’s sad and I feel for Nomex. His situation is not unique and I know we’re gonna get the “we’d like to visit you message” in the near future too. Only I’m pulling the menopause card so 2 men won’t dare come and visit me 🤣🤣🤣
 

Sunshower

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haha i just posted my response before i read yours. I couldn’t agree more with you more, Sunshower.

I mean, some folks like to get stuff off their chest and that’s fine, but do so at the clear understanding that there are zero expectations of any meaningful response or engagement by the elders in the unlikely event that even one of them reads it. Honestly théy do NOT care one iota. Sad but true.
I wanted to get things of my chest and at first they were surprised and kinda agreed with me. But the longer they had time to think, the more excuses they came up with and it turned out to all be our fault.

So what did it bring me? Only more frustration.
 

יהוה_saves

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I wanted to get things of my chest and at first they were surprised and kinda agreed with me. But the longer they had time to think, the more excuses they came up with and it turned out to all be our fault.

So what did it bring me? Only more frustration.
i went to the elders in early 2021 when they began announcing that the vaccines “contained no blood or blood products” with genuine concerns for the brothers. i was accused of listening to conspiracy theories. I left that unproductive meeting feeling completely unheard, and outraged.
 

Sunshower

Well-known member
i went to the elders in early 2021 when they began announcing that the vaccines “contained no blood or blood products” with genuine concerns for the brothers. i was accused of listening to conspiracy theories. I left that unproductive meeting feeling completely unheard, and outraged.
It’s so sad. I would like to see real numbers of how many JG’s there are at the moment. I have a feeling it’s way lower than the would like us to believe.
 

יהוה_saves

Well-known member
It’s so sad. I would like to see real numbers of how many JG’s there are at the moment. I have a feeling it’s way lower than the would like us to believe.
Completely agree. that’s why they removed all time requirements for pioneering. So they can still cite the “thousands of pioneers” pioneering away at nothing.

They’re liars. Deceitful, crooked men who dishonor God’s name and reproach it daily with their poisoned tongue.

Just look at the Canadian govt C19 “vaccine” exemption form- right there- God’s name emblazoned on the form- what disgusting filth.
 
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