They emasculated calebs dad! Wow check out the difference..

Revvzone

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Sorry to say, the emasculation began after WWI with the clean-shaven look for men. Hormones in the food supply have created a generation of soy boys. Sad.
Absolutely..I remember my grandmother wouldn't let us boys eat certain cereal like cornflakes or rasin brand because it had Salt Peter and hormones in it..she also wouldn't buy certain shampoos because it made boys grow tits..I found out as an adult it was true..
 

A B

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Thank you for your reply and I certainly don’t want to stir up arguments. However, we on this site are observers of what is happening within the organization and also outside the organization and the forum is to discuss what we are seeing as well as our opinions. I was just watching the March JW broadcast and they interviewed a brother who has terminal cancer. He came down with cancer 18 months ago. In my opinion, it is likely it was caused by the vaccine because that is exactly what the vaccine does is damage the parts of your immune system that fight off cancer and the timing is right. I would never tell anyone, except my relatives, to not get the vaccine nor to get it. But I do suggest they make a fully informed decision. I think the facts are evident that the vaccines carry a risk of death and disability that our society has never before knowingly tolerated in a medicine. 5th generation warfare is a war where you cannot prove who the attacker is and the vaccine kills and maimes in a way that is almost impossible to determine the source unless someone uses staining in the cancer cells to see the spike protein. I hope you and your family stay healthy and I’m quite sure it is possible to survive the vaccine, but for too many it is a ticking time bomb for future illness.
What do you recommend to 'survive the vaccine' ?
 

SusanB

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What do you recommend to 'survive the vaccine' ?
I personally am not in a position to recommend any medications but there are people online who have detox programs. One supplement that has been touted is Nattokinase and another is N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine. I am unvaxed and plan on staying that way but I am in close contact with the vaccinated and so to prevent getting sick from “shedding” I take all the normal vitamins plus Quercetin+C, baby aspirin 3 x’s per week and N-Acetyl-L_Cysteine 4 X’s per week. And I take Magnesium, I do an 18/6 fast every day and I have taken ivermectin a couple of times. So far so good as I have recovered from COVID twice. Here is a source for detox info:

 

A B

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Look at the hood ornament on the jacked-up car. Looks like they found a way to recycle and cartoonize the winged sun of Horus. Who would ever suspect that demon-worshipping Masons worked in the art department? :whistle:

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Why can't it just be a medallion on a cartoon car, especially when there are more concrete things like Haggai 2:3 to discuss?

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In the past, I'm thinking some booklet covers, ... they would change the race of people in the picture depending on the language that was printed. It was done so on purpose to increase the chance that people would consder the information. Most dad's and definitely most JW dads do not look like Caleb's father. I'm sure this was a conscious decision to make it easier for some to identify better with Caleb's Dad and thus pay closer attention to his parenting techniques.
 
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A B

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I personally am not in a position to recommend any medications but there are people online who have detox programs. One supplement that has been touted is Nattokinase and another is N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine. I am unvaxed and plan on staying that way but I am in close contact with the vaccinated and so to prevent getting sick from “shedding” I take all the normal vitamins plus Quercetin+C, baby aspirin 3 x’s per week and N-Acetyl-L_Cysteine 4 X’s per week. And I take Magnesium, I do an 18/6 fast every day and I have taken ivermectin a couple of times. So far so good as I have recovered from COVID twice. Here is a source for detox info:

Thanks for sharing, I've heard much about Natto recently including Dr. McCullough.
 

Jahrule

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In the past, I'm thinking some booklet covers, ... they would change the race of people in the picture depending on the language that was printed. It was done so on purpose to increase the chance that people would consder the information. Most dad's and definitely most JW dads do not look like Caleb's father. I'm sure this was a conscious decision to make it easier for some to identify better with Caleb's Dad and thus pay closer attention to his parenting techniques.
I kind of see your point here. I do believe it's possible to use shapes and various designs without invoking the demons. Not everyone who throws up a peace sign is a demon worshiper. With that being said, Satan is the ruler of this world, so it wouldn't surprise me if at least some number of signs and symbols are part of his mark on our world. Intention is key. If you just own a car with a symbol that demons have used you're probably okay. Except for Chrysler, though. Even the demons wouldn't drive one of those.


I kid I kid. Joking. No offense intended. I don't hate Chrysler. I love Jeeps. I'm just disappointed chrysler is involved.
 

SusanB

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I kind of see your point here. I do believe it's possible to use shapes and various designs without invoking the demons. Not everyone who throws up a peace sign is a demon worshiper. With that being said, Satan is the ruler of this world, so it wouldn't surprise me if at least some number of signs and symbols are part of his mark on our world. Intention is key. If you just own a car with a symbol that demons have used you're probably okay. Except for Chrysler, though. Even the demons wouldn't drive one of those.


I kid I kid. Joking. No offense intended. I don't hate Chrysler. I love Jeeps. I'm just disappointed chrysler is involved.
Who knows? Could be deliberate and might just be coincidence. The only reservation that I have from giving them the benefit of the doubt is that in historically in the magazine graphics, there have been a LOT of coincidences. It is something that bothered me even when I was a blind and deaf JW. I still couldn’t shake the thought that they could not have seen how it looked.
 

SusanB

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What do you recommend to 'survive the vaccine' ?
I forgot that I also drink Chlorine Dioxide Solution but you have been a bit careful with that because it can also thin the blood and if you’re on blood thinners then you should just follow a doctor’s advice. I don’t mention that one often but I do drink it.
 

Jahrule

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Who knows? Could be deliberate and might just be coincidence. The only reservation that I have from giving them the benefit of the doubt is that in historically in the magazine graphics, there have been a LOT of coincidences. It is something that bothered me even when I was a blind and deaf JW. I still couldn’t shake the thought that they could not have seen how it looked.
My thoughts exactly. Twice or so is a coincidence. But we're way past a couple with the Watchtower. Pyramid tombstones, oddly shaped buildings, hieroglyphic designs, occult symbols. It's to a point where even the general public is suspicious who don't even know all the details. They can call it what they want. It's beyond coincidence.

 

BagdadBill

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I never seem to be around for the blowouts. Seems like there is more of that lately and it makes me wonder. I think everyone here can feel the spirit of the world creeping in around us. At the same time, random people at the store will comment to me that people had better get right with Jesus. I never heard much of that in Arizona.
Know this, that Satan's goal will be to make us feel surrounded and alone, betrayed, rejected, ungodly, unredeemable and unkind.
It has always been my understanding that there will be stragglers who just slip through the door at the end.
Let us all strive to be a little farther ahead in line? Just my two cents. Watchtower won't even resemble what we've known, fairly soon.
 

Nomex

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That ship has long sailed. Plus I think I just won the friendship of one of the pit Bulls on this forum, brother @Nomex ,
I'm trying really hard to keep in mind not everyone has had the same experiences and education that I have. My father used to say I was going to the "School of Hard Rocks". My education has been self taught, which means I learned what I wanted to learn and or what I thought I should learn. I never got a degree in something that someone forced me to learn and that they told me I had to learn. Most people in this world have been indoctrinated to one degree or another, and when it comes to degrees the more educated you are the more indoctrinated you are.

Have you ever thought it was strange that these people who have "doctorates" literally have the root word in "indoctrination" as part of their title? Not only that but that they are so proud of it. Well I have!
 

A B

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The world is getting more polarized and we are seeing its influence here, the quick tendency is it has to be this way or that way when most issues are really more complex.

Fallen, I mostly agreed with your initial post. Some of the replies you got I don't think were correct and you can reply in a matter that resets the issue. "Brother Cook's recent talk would not support the idea that Caleb's father is transitioning." But if you fall for the bait and respond with your 'lack of godly devotion' comment, everyone loses. It's just name calling that can be found anywhere. I"ve stepped in it a few times and that is what I have learned.

Jesus often based his reply, or lack thereof, based on the listeners...not so much as to who he was replying to. If you reply with the larger audience in mind I think it gets more mileage. Just my two cents.
 

mts

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Over the years I have noticed many of the brothers seem to have a soft look to them. I wondered why that was & now it seems softness is being indirectly pushed. If the Org does go LGBT like some of the churches in Christendom, then many of the old timers will just leave. Maybe that's the intent.
I've been away a while, but this post reminded me of many observations I've made over the years. It is apparent, that even guys can't find regular fit suits anymore. Everything is athletic fit, slim fit, tight-fit... you get what I mean.😲 Also, Morris, a while ago, talked about the metrosexual look, which, at the time wasn't as prevalent as today. I am seeing elders (and other brothers) at the hall with rainbow colored sox, snug fitting pants and dress shirts; mis-matched suits (jacket one color, pants another) and skecher style shoes, not dress shoes, being used. No one is finding this odd in the hall? Am I just too conservative with my full matched regular fit suit, dress shoes & solid colored dress sox? I went to a mtg not too long ago with business casual "skecher" shoes (white soles), totally by mistake, and no one said a word! On the flip side, when masks were being req'd, try going to a mtg w/o one, you'd almost get lynched!😬 No doubt, fads + styles designed by LGBTQIA+, etc. have influenced the minds & hearts of those in the org. 🙁
 

Fallen

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The world is getting more polarized and we are seeing its influence here, the quick tendency is it has to be this way or that way when most issues are really more complex.

Fallen, I mostly agreed with your initial post. Some of the replies you got I don't think were correct and you can reply in a matter that resets the issue. "Brother Cook's recent talk would not support the idea that Caleb's father is transitioning." But if you fall for the bait and respond with your 'lack of godly devotion' comment, everyone loses. It's just name calling that can be found anywhere. I"ve stepped in it a few times and that is what I have learned.

Jesus often based his reply, or lack thereof, based on the listeners...not so much as to who he was replying to. If you reply with the larger audience in mind I think it gets more mileage. Just my two cents.
Youre exactly right. It has found its way here on the forum (Polarization).

Each time I fall for the bait, I allow my emotions and knee jerk responses to take over which is wrong. I usually beat myself up at the end of it and try and do better the next time. Keeping the larger audience in mind certainly helps when it comes to what should or shouldn't be said. And certainly...not everything has to have a reply.

I got mad at Sister @goldie for calling me a "NutJob" and in turn, I questioned her christian integrity. I had no right to do that. None!...well after a while, I started to think about it (being a nutjob and all) , and you know what? Shes absolutely right.
To one degree or another, This twisted and demonic world has made nutjobs out of all of us, and if it wasnt for Jehovah providing us with his word the bible to give us some sort of direction and clarity, we would be just as insane and without hope as the rest of the world.

So im learning not to take offense so easily...at least thats the goal. One thing that im keeping in mind is that every single one of us has been gathered by Jehovah to this forum by means of Jesus Christ for a reason. If Jah sees worth in us, we have every bit of responsibility to see it in eachother. Even if the best that we can do is ...agree to disagree.
 
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Nomex

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Youre exactly right. It has found its way here on the forum (Polarization).

Each time I fall for the bait, I allow my emotions and knee jerk responses to take over which is wrong. I usually beat myself up at the end of it and try and do better the next time. Keeping the larger audience in mind certainly helps when it comes to what should or shouldn't be said. And certainly...not everything has to have a reply.

I got mad at Sister @goldie for calling me a "NutJob" and in turn, I questioned her christian integrity. I had no right to do that. None!...well after a while, I started to think about it (being a nutjob and all) , and you know what? Shes absolutely right.
To one degree or another, This twisted and demonic world has made nutjobs out of all of us, and if it wasnt for Jehovah providing us with his word the bible to give us some sort of direction and clarity, we would be just as insane and without hope as the rest of the world.

So im learning not to take offense so easily...at least thats the goal. One thing that im keeping in mind is that every single one of us has been gathered by Jehovah to this forum by means of Jesus Christ for a reason. If Jah sees worth in us, we have every bit of responsibility to see it in eachother. Even if the best that we can do is ...agree to disagree.
I love this reply. As you well know, you being the brunt of my own brand of intolerance, while believing wholeheartedly at the time that I was "righteously indignant" and justified, and then regretting later what an insufferable jerk I can be, while at the same time I do not believe what I have learned to be true is wrong, but rather my approach leaves much to be desired. In other words, I don't think I am wrong, just the way I treat people sometimes, IS WRONG!

Indeed I think you are right Jehovah has brought us together.

I have come to realize that my anger about this world...and WT, that the way I have reacted sometimes, is the way I would react if confronted with really bad people! Maybe now I can be a "unifier" where I can be. Still the "bull dog" when needed, but having a better understanding of who to direct that bull dog towards!
 

kirmmy

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I feel as though theres something wrong with me. I personally dont see a problem with the two versions of Caleb's old man. Two illustrations could likely be used to convey two different points or moods.

For example, the first illustration was probably meant to convey how Caleb view his old man. Strong, comforting, dependable and someone who makes him feel safe.

The second illustration could have been meant to convey how the old man is approachable, soft and welcoming. Not every man is a bodybuilder or is capable of being one, and perhaps the brothers wanted to show a little bit of diversity with the message that you dont have to be the HULK to be a good dad?

But what do I know....I still think there was nothing wrong with the Covid shots.

The only thing I take issue with is the flying disk. But even thats a stretch.

PS: If you guys concerns are indeed justified and accurate....im literally terrified and heatbroken. I am open to the idea that what you guys are pointing out is indeed whats happening. I really hope thats not the case.....in all likelyhood.....it probably is :(

EDIT: I drive a Chrysler 300 with the same disk logo. Does that make me a demon worshiper?
I agree with you. They did change the body type of the dad but maybe it's because most men fit the second body type. I really don't see it as an issue but that's just the way I see it. But as BtD says they should let parents teach their children. They've done enough to children as it is...and that's not a compliment.
I am seeing elders (and other brothers) at the hall with rainbow colored sox, snug fitting pants and dress shirts; mis-matched suits (jacket one color, pants another) and skecher style shoes, not dress shoes, being used.
It sounds like the fashion apocalypse is upon us. :)
 

evw

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Youre exactly right. It has found its way here on the forum (Polarization).

Each time I fall for the bait, I allow my emotions and knee jerk responses to take over which is wrong. I usually beat myself up at the end of it and try and do better the next time. Keeping the larger audience in mind certainly helps when it comes to what should or shouldn't be said. And certainly...not everything has to have a reply.

I got mad at Sister @goldie for calling me a "NutJob" and in turn, I questioned her christian integrity. I had no right to do that. None!...well after a while, I started to think about it (being a nutjob and all) , and you know what? Shes absolutely right.
To one degree or another, This twisted and demonic world has made nutjobs out of all of us, and if it wasnt for Jehovah providing us with his word the bible to give us some sort of direction and clarity, we would be just as insane and without hope as the rest of the world.

So im learning not to take offense so easily...at least thats the goal. One thing that im keeping in mind is that every single one of us has been gathered by Jehovah to this forum by means of Jesus Christ for a reason. If Jah sees worth in us, we have every bit of responsibility to see it in eachother. Even if the best that we can do is ...agree to disagree.
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