New World Order

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Man from Berea

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Watchman said:
It is interesting if you do a search on the WT CD Rom the phrase "new order" began to be used frequently in 1962. The term appears dozens of times every year. Some years over 100 times. Then in 1985, the phrase was abruptly dropped, scrubbed from the theocratic lexicon. In fact, I remember a convention speaker back then saying from the platform not to use the term any longer. So, it appears that certain GB members back then realized the term "new order" had been adopted by the occultist. More than likely the Masons in the org promoted the use of the term and other members of the Governing Body canceled them out.
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For me this is "the Masons" theme very interesting.
I would like know when about were built in into the organisation? I suspect that sometime in 1916, was this year. When C.T. Russel after died.

I was wrong? (I would good like know)
 
kenmuldoon55

kenmuldoon55

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Melinda said:
as far as terminology .... New World Translation vs The New World Order ...is the New World Translation terminolgy connected to illuminati
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I remember President Bush used that term
“new world order in a speech back in the eighties.
Don’t get any more Illuminati than the Bush family.
It’s probably not by accident that the WT named that version as such.
 
BagdadBill

BagdadBill

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kenmuldoon55 said:
I remember President Bush used that term
“new world order in a speech back in the eighties.
Don’t get any more Illuminati than the Bush family.
It’s probably not by accident that the WT named that version as such.
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Ken, I struggle to believe in anything construed as coincidence these days. It seems all too convenient to say something like that right now but isn't this our time? My brother threw a question aloft the other day. What business is it of those who sin willfully, to preach God's paradise future of eternity? If I draw a breath it is because Jehovah allowed it. If I walk two more steps it's because God already helped me take one of them, if not both.
I made a pact with our Creator, not knowing exactly what I was asking for, that if He would grant me knowledge, that I would shoulder whatever I had to, to pay back what I was given.
If I die tomorrow, I want to feel confident that Jehovah will say, at least he tried. If there is a stone with my symbol or name on it. It should say that I tried. We can't give Jehovah God, perfection. Can't give what you don't have right? All I can give is my hope and want and pleading for someone greater than I am to raise me up out of this wretched world and mold me into something that he had in mind.
I am willing.
 
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kenmuldoon55

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BagdadBill said:
Ken, I struggle to believe in anything construed as coincidence these days. It seems all too convenient to say something like that right now but isn't this our time? My brother threw a question aloft the other day. What business is it of those who sin willfully, to preach God's paradise future of eternity? If I draw a breath it is because Jehovah allowed it. If I walk two more steps it's because God already helped me take one of them, if not both.
I made a pact with our Creator, not knowing exactly what I was asking for, that if He would grant me knowledge, that I would shoulder whatever I had to, to pay back what I was given.
If I die tomorrow, I want to feel confident that Jehovah will say, at least he tried. If there is a stone with my symbol or name on it. It should say that I tried. We can't give Jehovah God, perfection. Can't give what you don't have right? All I can give is my hope and want and pleading for someone greater than I am to raise me up out of this wretched world and mold me into something that he had in mind.
I am willing.
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“I want to feel confident that Jehovah will say, at least he tried.”
I’d love for Jehovah to bear witness with
me in some way to assure me that I’m noticed and approved but unfortunately He never has other than the fact that I’m alive and at this instant have everything I need to live through this day. Kind of a “ you don’t need signs, my grace is good enough for you right now”.
I mostly feel alone, even abandoned when suffering ensues but I guess even Jesus felt abandoned and cried out to that effect while hanging on the torture stake. King David also felt that Jehovah had forgotten about him. When being hounded by Saul he cried out to Jehovah:
“How long, Lord? Will you forget me forever? How long will you hide your face from me? How long will I store up anxious concerns within me, agony in my mind every day? How long will my enemy dominate me? Psalms 13:1,2.
I suppose when He soon pours out His spirit in a never before experienced way as prophesied in Joel, we’ll know for sure His love for us. The worlds darkest hour will be our finest hour.
 
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kenmuldoon55 said:
“I want to feel confident that Jehovah will say, at least he tried.”
I’d love for Jehovah to bear witness with
me in some way to assure me that I’m noticed and approved but unfortunately He never has other than the fact that I’m alive and at this instant have everything I need to live through this day. Kind of a “ you don’t need signs, my grace is good enough for you right now”.
I mostly feel alone, even abandoned when suffering ensues but I guess even Jesus felt abandoned and cried out to that effect while hanging on the torture stake. King David also felt that Jehovah had forgotten about him. When being hounded by Saul he cried out to Jehovah:
“How long, Lord? Will you forget me forever? How long will you hide your face from me? How long will I store up anxious concerns within me, agony in my mind every day? How long will my enemy dominate me? Psalms 13:1,2.
I suppose when He soon pours out His spirit in a never before experienced way as prophesied in Joel, we’ll know for sure His love for us. The worlds darkest hour will be our finest hour.
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You can be confident Jehovah approves of your efforts. If you worship Him in spirit and Truth, if you trust Him and not in mere man, If you do your best to follow His sons example and have faith you can be assured He is listening to you and His Holy Spirit is with you.
 
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DR74minus

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kenmuldoon55 said:
I guess even Jesus felt abandoned and cried out to that effect while hanging on the torture stake.
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Maybe Jesus did feel abandoned? But for sure Jehovah stepped away just for a moment, and as you alluded to Jesus said "why have you forsaken me" I suspect Jehovah knew that Jesus integrity will remain intact. That was the best opportunity for Satan. Satan failed.

A similar situation will befall the chosen ones, when Jehovah will leave them just for a moment. And if Just one of the "7000" fails, Then Jehovah fails. We are confident what the outcome will be but.

However we should not need any more confirmation than what we already know that Jehovah truly loves us
Unless we're hard of hearing prehaps.
 
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We’ve all been guaranteed to live forever whether in heaven or on earth. Jehovah and Jesus signed the agreement so to speak; when Jesus was killed and resurrected. Whether we benefit from that agreement is up to us and only us as individuals if we keep our end of the agreement. We keep up our end of the stick by doing what Jehovah's word has taught us, what the requirements are so that we can have faith, and build a strong relationship with Jehovah. I for one don't find it a breeze to hold the rope but.
 
BagdadBill

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If I live unto the new world, I swear that I will hang out with each and all of you. I should like to think that all of you here and now, will be a special group of friends. Pray every day for yourself and pray for us all. Our path is short now. If you worship God then you feel the disturbance in what is right. We have been left to run the rest of this course on our own.
Jesus didn't reject his course. He asked his Father for help but stayed on the road. You also stay on the road but along the way, grab your fellow and raise him up. Slap him a few times to wake him up but slap him nonetheless and make him see. See what is ahead. This world is trying it's best not to see. We are not allowed to pretend that we don't know. We are Jehovah's Witnesses and even with regard to our disfunctional leadership, we are still held liable. God gave us and only us, enough truth so we would see the path through the lies. If you took on God's name as a Witness then you obligated yourself to speak when your time comes.
If you are one of the anointed and don't know it yet, when you are woken up by our God, will you please remember my name and beg for me before our God for my forgiveness. You will know who you are when the time comes. May my name be on your prayer list?
I will preach whether I live or die. That was the arrangement between God and myself. I will preach and annoy people.
Imagine being annoyed that God sent me to talk to you. I am kind and allow a lot of room for your comments but know this, that my God will have the last say. When I am silent and shut up it is time that I was supposed to listen and this time visits all of us. I don't have one original idea except what our God gave to me. If I am a genius then it is my Lord that gave it to me. If I am sullen and withdrawn, you might do well to wonder why God drew me backward and made me silent.
My time to speak is now. It won't last long and if I feel God's spirit direct me to silence,.............
 
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BagdadBill said:
If I live unto the new world, I swear that I will hang out with each and all of you. I should like to think that all of you here and now, will be a special group of friends. Pray every day for yourself and pray for us all. Our path is short now. If you worship God then you feel the disturbance in what is right. We have been left to run the rest of this course on our own.
Jesus didn't reject his course. He asked his Father for help but stayed on the road. You also stay on the road but along the way, grab your fellow and raise him up. Slap him a few times to wake him up but slap him nonetheless and make him see. See what is ahead. This world is trying it's best not to see. We are not allowed to pretend that we don't know. We are Jehovah's Witnesses and even with regard to our disfunctional leadership, we are still held liable. God gave us and only us, enough truth so we would see the path through the lies. If you took on God's name as a Witness then you obligated yourself to speak when your time comes.
If you are one of the anointed and don't know it yet, when you are woken up by our God, will you please remember my name and beg for me before our God for my forgiveness. You will know who you are when the time comes. May my name be on your prayer list?
I will preach whether I live or die. That was the arrangement between God and myself. I will preach and annoy people.
Imagine being annoyed that God sent me to talk to you. I am kind and allow a lot of room for your comments but know this, that my God will have the last say. When I am silent and shut up it is time that I was supposed to listen and this time visits all of us. I don't have one original idea except what our God gave to me. If I am a genius then it is my Lord that gave it to me. If I am sullen and withdrawn, you might do well to wonder why God drew me backward and made me silent.
My time to speak is now. It won't last long and if I feel God's spirit direct me to silence,.............
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I have faith I will meet each and everyone of you in the Jehovahs Kingdom. Let us walk in Spirit and Truth, fight the fine fight not back down to anyone even in the face of death. Let our love for Jehovah and His righteous judgements motivate us to be the voice if truth to be His spokesmen to become the new horn that will sprout from the house of Isreal. Be His manservents, maidservents and walk with Jesus and His brothers when he comes. Embrace the outpouring of Jehovahs holy spirit and announce His righteous judgements...fight the beast and stand against Satan and His armies in the NWO.
 
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kenmuldoon55

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BagdadBill said:
If I live unto the new world, I swear that I will hang out with each and all of you. I should like to think that all of you here and now, will be a special group of friends. Pray every day for yourself and pray for us all. Our path is short now. If you worship God then you feel the disturbance in what is right. We have been left to run the rest of this course on our own.
Jesus didn't reject his course. He asked his Father for help but stayed on the road. You also stay on the road but along the way, grab your fellow and raise him up. Slap him a few times to wake him up but slap him nonetheless and make him see. See what is ahead. This world is trying it's best not to see. We are not allowed to pretend that we don't know. We are Jehovah's Witnesses and even with regard to our disfunctional leadership, we are still held liable. God gave us and only us, enough truth so we would see the path through the lies. If you took on God's name as a Witness then you obligated yourself to speak when your time comes.
If you are one of the anointed and don't know it yet, when you are woken up by our God, will you please remember my name and beg for me before our God for my forgiveness. You will know who you are when the time comes. May my name be on your prayer list?
I will preach whether I live or die. That was the arrangement between God and myself. I will preach and annoy people.
Imagine being annoyed that God sent me to talk to you. I am kind and allow a lot of room for your comments but know this, that my God will have the last say. When I am silent and shut up it is time that I was supposed to listen and this time visits all of us. I don't have one original idea except what our God gave to me. If I am a genius then it is my Lord that gave it to me. If I am sullen and withdrawn, you might do well to wonder why God drew me backward and made me silent.
My time to speak is now. It won't last long and if I feel God's spirit direct me to silence,.............
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Love your heartfelt expressions here Bill!
You’re an encouragement to us all.
As Ozzie sings, “see you on the other side”.
 
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Deborah

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BDB said

"SPEAK WHEN YOUR TIME COMES"

Amen to that. I am a big believer in TIMING especially when message is vital/urgent.

Ecc: 3:1

There is an appointed time for everything.........

The whole of chapter 3 is one of my favorites.

Good day to you BDB you are one deep loving person. 🙏 ☺.
 
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BARNABY THE DOG. said:
What a wonderful name for a place to live in.
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Speaking of name! We let's talking about names a little. Here are the Warwick and Wallkill. Two my favorite name! Why? Here lives prince of peace, in these? (Jesus) What do the names mean?
Let's break it down. Warwick = War + wick
Wallkill = Wall + kill
War, and kill, where are the peace?

Or am I the only one seeing horrors? We look it?
Or this only words game?
 
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Melinda

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Man from Berea said:
Speaking of name! We let's talking about names a little. Here ara the Warwick and Wallkill. Two my favorite name! Why? Here lives prince of peace, in these? (Jesus) What do the names mean?
Let's break it down. Warwick = War + wick
Wallkill = Wall + kill
War, and kill, where are the peace?

Or am I the only one seeing horrors? We look it?
Or this only words game?
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Kinda like 19+14 = 33 Always something hidden in plane site
 
PJ54

PJ54

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Man from Berea said:
Speaking of name! We let's talking about names a little. Here ara the Warwick and Wallkill. Two my favorite name! Why? Here lives prince of peace, in these? (Jesus) What do the names mean?
Let's break it down. Warwick = War + wick
Wallkill = Wall + kill
War, and kill, where are the peace?

Or am I the only one seeing horrors? We look it?
Or this only words game?
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Kind of like warring against the smoldering wick while killing the wall. A cycle of destruction.
 
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Man from Berea

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Melinda said:
Kinda like 19+14 = 33 Always something hidden in plane site
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Dear Melinda, please explain this 19 and 14 to me. How it is? What is 19 and what is 14?
Thank you for explaining.
They don't rotate, the my wheels (in my brain). :) ;)
 
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