New World Order

Watchman

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Last night at the memorial the brother that gave the talk...was an older brother....so I don't know if he's old school. Of course, that was my first meeting in 20 years. What caught my attention was when he mentioned the words NEW ORDER.. twice during his talk..never said new system. Also...the brother who gave the closing prayer....said that this could very well be the last memorial.
The speaker must not have gotten the memo 30 years ago canceling the expression "new order" from the JW "pure language."
 

Deborah

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Last night at the memorial the brother that gave the talk...was an older brother....so I don't know if he's old school. Of course, that was my first meeting in 20 years. What caught my attention was when he mentioned the words NEW ORDER.. twice during his talk..never said new system. Also...the brother who gave the closing prayer....said that this could very well be the last memorial.
When the 40ish year old brother who gave our memorial talk said this could be our last memorial twice, I heard laughter. I was tying in by phone.
Seems to me they said this year before last too.

Twin towers thingy unnerving/disturbing for lack of better wording.
 
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Little River

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In the latest 2022 convention video, the GB reiterated that the "clay" is the problem---the people, trade unions, and patriot groups that interfere with the government. Here is a mob of French folks calling for the government to stop promoting war.

If it weren't for the "clay" we would all be jabbed with the clot shot by now! and lining up for the compulsory digital chip in order to buy and sell!
 

DavidCJ

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In the latest 2022 convention video, the GB reiterated that the "clay" is the problem---the people, trade unions, and patriot groups that interfere with the government. Here is a mob of French folks calling for the government to stop promoting war.
Sooo... what you are saying is, the clay is calling the pot it's made of Dirt?
 
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Little River

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I remember one of my father's return visits was a Mason he told us his interest in jw's was prompted by that freemason bibles have Jehovah's name in them extensively. I don't think the names pressence in the NWT is a lucky charm that can alone dispell any suspicions of nwo influence in the society.
I had the opportunity to visit a Freemason museum with a Freemason as my tour guide. I noticed that God's name Jehovah was prominently displayed on the wall.
 
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Little River

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I appreciate your candor and agree with a lot of your statements. I once heard a D.O. liken the Slave to a guide with a map to a minefield and how we would step EXACTLY where we were directed, since our life depended on it. As one who knew not to take the jab, I feel like I'm watching as the direction of the GB steers precious spiritual family directly INTO the landmines, body parts flying everywhere, mass carnage and horror... Then weaponizes formerly helpful elders into a gaslighting bully squad to silence those of us with a firm grasp of the obvious. I feel as the man born blind who was cured by the Christ must have felt when interrogated by the Pharisees: Q: "This is above my pay grade. Why don't YOU have the answers?" A: "How DARE you? You're EXPELLED!:

Just remember, friend: Jehovah likes to exalt the humble and humble the exalted. Hang on. Dad chose you for a reason. Don't be claimed by the Resistor/Accuser/Slanderer. This malpractice will not stand and JHVH will make it right.

Here are some scriptures I have found helpful. Maybe you'll agree.
I have noticed lately that the WT is placing a lot of emphasis on obeying Jehovah AND HIS ORGANIZATION. Then I thought about the Jews in Auswitch who went for a "shower" for their health and safety. Will WT tell us to gather in "camps" for our health and safety?
Ahem, I don't think so! As far as I remember the scriptures say we must go into our inner rooms and wait for the calamity to pass.
 

DavidCJ

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I had the opportunity to visit a Freemason museum with a Freemason as my tour guide. I noticed that God's name Jehovah was prominently displayed on the wall.
One video said Jehovah is the phrase they use before initiation among freemason/illuminati.

Satan knows the truth. One has to be careful not to be stumbled because of the over-emphasis on such minute details. The way the God's name is said is numerous as the number of languages out there. Most certainly do not make a fuss about other names in the scriptures. Some do care about his son's name being Jesus/Yeshua, but to a lesser extent, unknowingly admitting that his father is the true God.
 

kirmmy

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I have noticed lately that the WT is placing a lot of emphasis on obeying Jehovah AND HIS ORGANIZATION. Then I thought about the Jews in Auswitch who went for a "shower" for their health and safety. Will WT tell us to gather in "camps" for our health and safety?
Ahem, I don't think so! As far as I remember the scriptures say we must go into our inner rooms and wait for the calamity to pass.
Yes, I've thought the same thing. The Brothers and Sisters are going to be sold into the hand of the Devil and his minions. This agrees with the Bible and what Robert has revealed. But out of the bitterness and slaughter will come God's chosen ones and his close friends. It's strange and marvelous how Jehovah fulfills his will.

One video said Jehovah is the phrase they use before initiation among freemason/illuminati.

Satan knows the truth. One has to be careful not to be stumbled because of the over-emphasis on such minute details. The way the God's name is said is numerous as the number of languages out there. Most certainly do not make a fuss about other names in the scriptures. Some do care about his son's name being Jesus/Yeshua, but to a lesser extent, unknowingly admitting that his father is the true God.
I believe Jehovah is know as a "lesser" god to the Masons. Lucifer is their man; the "god" who came down to earth to help and guide mankind. Yeah, his "help and guidance" has been amazing. /s This is exactly what the Devil wants people to believe. They're going to be in for a hell of a surprise.

Of course, I'm no expert on the masons so perhaps those that know more could elucidate.
 

The God Pill

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One thing to ponder given the empires interest for well over a century in a synthesis of the opposing ideologies of the cold war is that the beast will be neither capitalist nor communist as the former means to much freedom for the mark and the latter is anti market so does not facilitate the pressence of buying and selling which the mark is made a prerequisite of. The beast will be some flavor of socialism a worst of both worlds synthesis we can already see strong hints of this with all these left wing corporations under the influence of ESG and corporate welfare operating as agents of government interests. (Socialism would be predisposed to cultivating oligopolies because a small number of very large firms is easier for government to exert control over than many small ones)
 
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Truth_Seeker

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I have been wondering about this...What is left to believe in?

I will make my holy name known among my people Israel, and I will not allow my holy name to be profaned any longer; and the nations will have to know that I am Jehovah,+ the Holy One in Israel.’+
8 “‘Yes, this is coming, and it will be done,’ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah. ‘This is the day I have spoken about. Ezekiel 39.

Now faith is the certainty of things hoped for, a proof of things not seen. For by it the people of old gained approval. By faith we understand that the world has been created by the word of God so that what is seen has not been made out of things that are visible. And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for the one who comes to God must believe that He exists, and that He proves to be One who rewards those who seek Him. By faith Noah, being warned by God about things not yet seen, in reverence prepared an ark for the salvation of his household, by which he condemned the world, and became an heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.Hebrews 11:1‭-‬3‭, ‬6‭-‬7

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and follow His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome. For whoever has been born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world: our faith. 1 John 5:2‭-‬4
 

Shekinah

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I remember several years ago not sure if it was 2014 or around that time, the brothers were posting invites through doors to the convention I'm sure it had either world order or new order on the front of it, it had people on YouTube complaining that they were preparing for the new world order, I tried to convince them that it wasn't the same thing that they were referring to Christ's Kingdom.
 
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