Cristo
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Posting under the 'examining the scriptures' thread seemed the best place for this, although it seems it has become more of a 'daily text' thread. Nevertheless, the question of 2300 or 1150 certainly leads us to examining the scriptures more in depth. I hope this helps clear up than cause more confusion.
Tamid
The scripture in question is:
The daily sacrifice requirement is found here:
This requirement for a daily sacrifice was known as the 'tamid'(click for definition) and was a continual offering to Jehovah. It is the technical term which designates the double offering of a morning and evening that is offered daily. It was one offering, not two separate offerings. Numbers helps us see more clearly what is being said.
The double sacrifice, morning and evening, counted as one offering. Notice the scripture describes the two lambs in the morning and evening as 'the offering', singular, not 'offerings' plural. Also note that this is a constant daily sacrifice, splitting it up into two sacrifices would not be a constant, but would split it up into two separate offerings. Therefore, using this understanding of halving the 2300 into two, based off of two sacrifices a day, is unjustified, being that they were part of the same daily offering.
Evening and Morning
Referring back to the prophecy, Daniel uses the expression 'evenings and mornings' in reference to the 2300 days. However, the daily burnt offering as described above as the Tamid, was always from 'morning to evening'. If one were to go through all the scriptures regarding offerings, specifically the daily sacrifice, they would see that it was described as from the 'morning to the evening'. Certainly Daniel knew this when he penned the prophecy, as did Jehovah who made the law requirement, and yet the prophecy at Daniel 8:14 uses the term 'evenings and mornings'.
Do the scriptures provide us with an answer that fit more accurately with the phrase 'evening and morning'? In Genesis we are indeed offered this expression which helps us to more clearly see whether the 2300 days should be viewed as actual days, or cut in half as some suggest.
In penning the prophecy, was Daniel, or rather Jehovah, using the inverted phrase 'evenings and mornings' as a way to help us identify from Genesis that the 2300 evenings and mornings were actual days? Evidence seems to suggest that this is true. In fact, nowhere in the scriptures, other than Genesis and Daniel 8:14,26, is a day designated in this way from evening to morning. All other occurrences use the regular 'morning to evening' or 'day to night' formula. This would only lead us to believe that full days are being referred to, not a half day.
Therefore based off of this information the 2300 days on the chart shall remain as full days and not 1150 half days.
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Tamid
The scripture in question is:
(Da 8:14) “. . .So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.””
Whether the 2300 days is specific to actual days, or whether the 2300 'evenings and mornings' was meant by Daniel to refer to two sacrifices a day, morning and evening will be addressed in this post. The latter essentially halves the 2300 to 1150 days, being there was a sacrifice in the morning, and a sacrifice in the evening. For those who adhere to the latter perspective of 1150 days, some questions must be reconciled first before this reasoning should be considered as true.The daily sacrifice requirement is found here:
(Ex 29:38-42) “38 “And this is what you will offer upon the altar: young rams each a year old, two a day constantly. 39 And you will offer the one young ram in the morning, and you will offer the other young ram between the two evenings. 40 And a tenth part of an e´phah measure of fine flour moistened with the fourth of a hin of beaten oil, and a drink offering of the fourth of a hin of wine, will go for the first young ram. 41 And you will offer the second young ram between the two evenings. With a grain offering like that of the morning and with a drink offering like its, you will render it as a restful odor, an offering made by fire to Jehovah. 42 It is a constant burnt offering throughout YOUR generations at the entrance of the tent of meeting before Jehovah, where I shall present myself to YOU people to speak to you there.”
This requirement for a daily sacrifice was known as the 'tamid'(click for definition) and was a continual offering to Jehovah. It is the technical term which designates the double offering of a morning and evening that is offered daily. It was one offering, not two separate offerings. Numbers helps us see more clearly what is being said.
(Nu 28:3-4) “3 “And you must say to them, ‘This is the offering made by fire that YOU will present to Jehovah: two sound year-old male lambs a day as a burnt offering constantly. 4 The one male lamb you will render up in the morning, and the other male lamb you will render up between the two evenings,”
The double sacrifice, morning and evening, counted as one offering. Notice the scripture describes the two lambs in the morning and evening as 'the offering', singular, not 'offerings' plural. Also note that this is a constant daily sacrifice, splitting it up into two sacrifices would not be a constant, but would split it up into two separate offerings. Therefore, using this understanding of halving the 2300 into two, based off of two sacrifices a day, is unjustified, being that they were part of the same daily offering.
Evening and Morning
Referring back to the prophecy, Daniel uses the expression 'evenings and mornings' in reference to the 2300 days. However, the daily burnt offering as described above as the Tamid, was always from 'morning to evening'. If one were to go through all the scriptures regarding offerings, specifically the daily sacrifice, they would see that it was described as from the 'morning to the evening'. Certainly Daniel knew this when he penned the prophecy, as did Jehovah who made the law requirement, and yet the prophecy at Daniel 8:14 uses the term 'evenings and mornings'.
Do the scriptures provide us with an answer that fit more accurately with the phrase 'evening and morning'? In Genesis we are indeed offered this expression which helps us to more clearly see whether the 2300 days should be viewed as actual days, or cut in half as some suggest.
(Ge 1:5) “. . .And God began calling the light Day, but the darkness he called Night. And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a first day.”(Ge 1:8) “. . .And God began to call the expanse Heaven. And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a second day.”(Ge 1:12-13) “. . .Then God saw that [it was] good. 13 And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a third day.”
In penning the prophecy, was Daniel, or rather Jehovah, using the inverted phrase 'evenings and mornings' as a way to help us identify from Genesis that the 2300 evenings and mornings were actual days? Evidence seems to suggest that this is true. In fact, nowhere in the scriptures, other than Genesis and Daniel 8:14,26, is a day designated in this way from evening to morning. All other occurrences use the regular 'morning to evening' or 'day to night' formula. This would only lead us to believe that full days are being referred to, not a half day.
Therefore based off of this information the 2300 days on the chart shall remain as full days and not 1150 half days.
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