A New video - Blood - Shunning - Christs Inspection

Paz

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I'm sorry but that reasoning is as flimsy as Christendom claiming and believing they are going to have physical bodies in heaven made of "flesh and bone" because of the scripture that says "flesh and blood cannot enter heaven". Blood may belong to Jehovah, but that doesn't stop people from misusing it, why would that stop the demons from doing the same thing? Jehovah didn't stop Satan from lying to Eve, he didn't stop the demons from creating bodies to have "human" children, but according to this reasoning, Jehovah said, "but no you can't make human bodies with blood" Sorry not buying it. This is the same kind of reasoning the WT used to claim humans who are resurrected would not remarry or have children based on what Jesus said about what was clearly the first resurrection to heaven, which they finally revised after decades of telling us that, when the very purpose of creating humans was "be fruitful and fill the earth".

Sorry I respectfully disagree with this notion!
Hi you may be right the Wt in an article (1960 I think ) mentions blood but without any scripture backup. Maybe they did create a liquid like blood. I also agree with the resurrection point that about not marrying it obvious is heaven only. My point why I think they did not was Jesus as a raised spirit Luk 23 he clearly only puts on ‘bone and flesh’ All other angelic visits in flesh did not need Blood. The claims that the nephlim were able to reproduce come from non biblical claims ( ie demonistic sources ) All life forms on planet earth are made of the ‘dust’ hence natural.
 

The God Pill

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Hi you may be right the Wt in an article (1960 I think ) mentions blood but without any scripture backup. Maybe they did create a liquid like blood. I also agree with the resurrection point that about not marrying it obvious is heaven only. My point why I think they did not was Jesus as a raised spirit Luk 23 he clearly only puts on ‘bone and flesh’ All other angelic visits in flesh did not need Blood. The claims that the nephlim were able to reproduce come from non biblical claims ( ie demonistic sources ) All life forms on planet earth are made of the ‘dust’ hence natural.
Show us a verse saying the hybrids were sterile. I'm going to trust the Sons of Zadok on this.
 

Paz

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Does anyone think the angels that materialised pre flood put on flesh as men to have ‘relations’ with earth women. Did some of these angels put on flesh as women. The bible does not mention this but much demon worship involves worship of the feminine and some of these gods were goddesses. Holy prostitution included men behaving and dressing as women. Is this another reason for the increase in woke today and the explosion of 100 different genders taught in our schools. A claim that we are all equal providing the excuse that we do not need Jehovah. After watching a video by Jamie B on the subject of demon worship transgender issues and the ‘Jezebel spirit’ Led me to ask the above question.
 

PJ54

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Does anyone think the angels that materialised pre flood put on flesh as men to have ‘relations’ with earth women. Did some of these angels put on flesh as women. The bible does not mention this but much demon worship involves worship of the feminine and some of these gods were goddesses. Holy prostitution included men behaving and dressing as women. Is this another reason for the increase in woke today and the explosion of 100 different genders taught in our schools. A claim that we are all equal providing the excuse that we do not need Jehovah. After watching a video by Jamie B on the subject of demon worship transgender issues and the ‘Jezebel spirit’ Led me to ask the above question.
I'm sure there was much more going on than what was written. Time will tell though.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Does anyone think the angels that materialised pre flood put on flesh as men to have ‘relations’ with earth women. Did some of these angels put on flesh as women. The bible does not mention this but much demon worship involves worship of the feminine and some of these gods were goddesses. Holy prostitution included men behaving and dressing as women. Is this another reason for the increase in woke today and the explosion of 100 different genders taught in our schools. A claim that we are all equal providing the excuse that we do not need Jehovah. After watching a video by Jamie B on the subject of demon worship transgender issues and the ‘Jezebel spirit’ Led me to ask the above question.
The issue is not what gender disobedient angels took in opposition to Jehovah, but why they did it at all.
 

Nomex

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Does anyone think the angels that materialised pre flood put on flesh as men to have ‘relations’ with earth women.
The issue is not what gender disobedient angels took in opposition to Jehovah, but why they did it at all.
Good point Barn....but I think one of the things most people overlook is it was completely unnatural what they were doing, so all bets were off. The Bible does state that they noticed the women were "beautiful" but regardless, they could not have a natural desire to "find women" beautiful in this context, which is obviously sexual. All the Greek myths suggest not only did they take on whatever form they wanted, they didn't limit their debauchery to humans!

I think this also would explain some things. First of all, when the 10 spies who scouted out the Promised land reported that their were Nephilim in the land, the two faithful spies, Caleb and Joshua, did NOT dispute that there were Nephilim instead they focused of the fact that Jehovah would deliver them. I think it is likely they were up to their same tricks after the flood, but on a much smaller scale so as not to draw the direct wrath of Jehovah, but it would explain why God commanded them to kill every man woman and child, and in some cases even the animals, if in fact there were Nephilim there.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Good point Barn....but I think one of the things most people overlook is it was completely unnatural what they were doing, so all bets were off. The Bible does state that they noticed the women were "beautiful" but regardless, they could not have a natural desire to "find women" beautiful in this context, which is obviously sexual. All the Greek myths suggest not only did they take on whatever form they wanted, they didn't limit their debauchery to humans!

I think this also would explain some things. First of all, when the 10 spies who scouted out the Promised land reported that their were Nephilim in the land, the two faithful spies, Caleb and Joshua, did NOT dispute that there were Nephilim instead they focused of the fact that Jehovah would deliver them. I think it is likely they were up to their same tricks after the flood, but on a much smaller scale so as not to draw the direct wrath of Jehovah, but it would explain why God commanded them to kill every man woman and child, and in some cases even the animals, if in fact there were Nephilim there.
Interesting! Biblical chronology is not a strong point for me. I didn’t know that there were nephilim post flood. I understood that they were stopped from materialising. I’m sure though that if there was a way in which demons could materialise that they would and if that included animals, it would not surprise me in the least. There are plenty of humans that would do the same and I’m rather expecting someone one to “identify” as an animal and seek a ‘pronoun’ for that in the near future. Jehovah’s demand that every man woman and child be killed is an unfathomable contradiction in biblical terms for me, given the argument that occurred over an innocent man or woman being found in Sodom and the fact that Jehovah cannot lie or would contradict His own standards - so as you say, there must be a reason for His ordering of such a command so you may well be right! Interesting point! I learn something new every day.
 

kirmmy

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Interesting! Biblical chronology is not a strong point for me. I didn’t know that there were nephilim post flood. I understood that they were stopped from materialising. I’m sure though that if there was a way in which demons could materialise that they would and if that included animals, it would not surprise me in the least. There are plenty of humans that would do the same and I’m rather expecting someone one to “identify” as an animal and seek a ‘pronoun’ for that in the near future. Jehovah’s demand that every man woman and child be killed is an unfathomable contradiction in biblical terms for me, given the argument that occurred over an innocent man or woman being found in Sodom and the fact that Jehovah cannot lie or would contradict His own standards - so as you say, there must be a reason for His ordering of such a command so you may well be right! Interesting point! I learn something new every day.
I disagree about the nephilim. They were gone after the flood. And the fallen angels were not allowed to materialize again. Tartarus comes to mind. 2 Pet 2:4 The Israelites just encountered unusually big people. Like today's NBA. :) If Jah hadn't set those limits on the sinful angels then the line of Christ would have been under risk of being compromised like it had been pre-flood. That's my understanding of the flood anyway. It was an emergency purge system for the genetic bugfarkery that the fallen angels started. No way was God going to let that happen again.

Regarding the destruction of the women and children...in most cases the Isrealites didn't even do that and Jehovah didn't seem too insistent on it. He knew that it was to clear stumbling blocks from their way but if they felt they could live with them, so be it. Those children were probably sacrificed to Baal on a regular basis and sexually abused when they weren't. Death would have been a release for them. Horrible parents raising soon-to-be horrible adults. And the women? Well they were adults that decided to follow a life of extreme sin. It was on them.

In the end, Romans 9:15 "For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”"

There is nothing more merciful and compassionate than Jehovah resurrecting those women and children in a righteous new world. A world were they won't be abused and destroyed, both mentally and physically. Where they will fulfill their purpose and go on to be happy well adjusted people. Hopefully...
 

MickHewitt

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I disagree about the nephilim. They were gone after the flood. And the fallen angels were not allowed to materialize again. Tartarus comes to mind. 2 Pet 2:4 The Israelites just encountered unusually big people. Like today's NBA. :) If Jah hadn't set those limits on the sinful angels then the line of Christ would have been under risk of being compromised like it had been pre-flood. That's my understanding of the flood anyway. It was an emergency purge system for the genetic bugfarkery that the fallen angels started. No way was God going to let that happen again.

Regarding the destruction of the women and children...in most cases the Isrealites didn't even do that and Jehovah didn't seem too insistent on it. He knew that it was to clear stumbling blocks from their way but if they felt they could live with them, so be it. Those children were probably sacrificed to Baal on a regular basis and sexually abused when they weren't. Death would have been a release for them. Horrible parents raising soon-to-be horrible adults. And the women? Well they were adults that decided to follow a life of extreme sin. It was on them.

In the end, Romans 9:15 "For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”"

There is nothing more merciful and compassionate than Jehovah resurrecting those women and children in a righteous new world. A world were they won't be abused and destroyed, both mentally and physically. Where they will fulfill their purpose and go on to be happy well adjusted people. Hopefully...
Yes! Was there not some dispute as to the reference 'Nephalim' or could mean giants in the land that scared the 12 spy's sent into the promised land? Numbers 13:25-33
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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I disagree about the nephilim. They were gone after the flood. And the fallen angels were not allowed to materialize again. Tartarus comes to mind. 2 Pet 2:4 The Israelites just encountered unusually big people. Like today's NBA. :) If Jah hadn't set those limits on the sinful angels then the line of Christ would have been under risk of being compromised like it had been pre-flood. That's my understanding of the flood anyway. It was an emergency purge system for the genetic bugfarkery that the fallen angels started. No way was God going to let that happen again.

Regarding the destruction of the women and children...in most cases the Isrealites didn't even do that and Jehovah didn't seem too insistent on it. He knew that it was to clear stumbling blocks from their way but if they felt they could live with them, so be it. Those children were probably sacrificed to Baal on a regular basis and sexually abused when they weren't. Death would have been a release for them. Horrible parents raising soon-to-be horrible adults. And the women? Well they were adults that decided to follow a life of extreme sin. It was on them.

In the end, Romans 9:15 "For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”"

There is nothing more merciful and compassionate than Jehovah resurrecting those women and children in a righteous new world. A world were they won't be abused and destroyed, both mentally and physically. Where they will fulfill their purpose and go on to be happy well adjusted people. Hopefully...
Well that makes sense. I thought I was right about the nephilim being destroyed at the flood. It must be a matter of translation then over the Israelites going into the promised land. Perhaps I was dozing at the meeting when they mentioned it. It would not be unusual for me. Some brothers took droning into an art form. I think you are right about the merciful attitude of Jehovah - though sometimes I think I’ll never measure up and at other times are somewhat more hopeful!
 

Spoilmerotten

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Wow! So they have compromised their "principles"...once again...for the UN. They really are compromised beyond belief.

Not to say I've ever agreed with their messed up version of disfellowshiping but the UN cracks the whip and they do the trip.

ETA: Yes audio is fine you just have to turn it up.

BTW, this Bro makes a great argument for the blood question...too bad he can't apply it to the vaccine. Because it is eminently applicable.
Watchtower is still an NGO in The UN in Europe. Also I listened and watched a recorded Video of a District Overseer visiting an old friend from Bethel who he came to encourage and the guy wanted some answers to some questions. So 1 of the ones he asked was about Watchtower being part of the UN and that District Overseer said Boasting “Oh Watchtower still does business with the UN” He even told him about them boarding their Private Jets and going to Make Deal! And he acted like it was No Big Deal! What has happened to this Organization????!
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Watchtower is still an NGO in The UN in Europe. Also I listened and watched a recorded Video of a District Overseer visiting an old friend from Bethel who he came to encourage and the guy wanted some answers to some questions. So 1 of the ones he asked was about Watchtower being part of the UN and that District Overseer said Boasting “Oh Watchtower still does business with the UN” He even told him about them boarding their Private Jets and going to Make Deal! And he acted like it was No Big Deal! What has happened to this Organization????!
“What has happened to this organization?”
It is fulfilling prophesy. It’s going to get “disgusting”.
 
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