A rambling post

[Niobium]

Are you convinced we are in the time of the end? With WW3 almost happening but never seeming to actually get going. If it's the precursor to the Great Tribulation, then is it wrong to want it to start? How do we know that there is still not another 100 years to go before Jehovah takes action. When can we really understand that Satan has been thrown out of heaven and confined to this Earth with the "short period" remaining that we are told of in Rev 12:12.

Sometimes I wonder if it is all true. Is it really going to happen or is it just a pipe dream and that everything we look forward to is just a fantasy?

I have faith. But sometimes I just wonder if we are barking up the wrong tree. And I feel like Apostles who said ( Luke 17:5)

Now the apostles said to the Lord: “Give us more faith"

Maybe it's a result of depression which I have suffered from since the demise of my wife 2 years ago, and the loneliness that has come with it. I try to get encouragement by attending the meetings ( even though I am PIMO) but find that I don't get what I need even though some of the ones there do try to give me some sympathy. Which I appreciate. But I get the feeling that most of them there are there for the social need that we all have rather than any kind of urgency for the preaching work that should be prevalent if they really believe that the end if soon. Perhaps that is my motivation too.

Anyway, I guess my posting this is to try to get my mind back on track somehow. I can't seem to do this by myself even though I feel that I should be able to as I have a lot of years in the so called "truth".

If I did appreciate the urgency of the time we are living in, shouldn't I also be out shouting it from the rooftops? But I just don't feel the need. I wonder what you all do to keep up your motivation and keep going.

As Jesus said (Matt 24:13)

But the one who has endured to the end will be saved

I pray about it of course but I seem to be running out of steam. I have been waiting, it seems, such a long time.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling post. I'm not even sure what I'm trying to say these days.

 

[Seventy5]

I'm not convinced that we're living in the "Time Of The End" and/or that Satan has been thrown out of heaven. Put it this way, if both the above have occurred, then I'll be looking keenly for another part of the sequence of events to occur.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

Are you convinced we are in the time of the end? With WW3 almost happening but never seeming to actually get going. If it's the precursor to the Great Tribulation, then is it wrong to want it to start? How do we know that there is still not another 100 years to go before Jehovah takes action. When can we really understand that Satan has been thrown out of heaven and confined to this Earth with the "short period" remaining that we are told of in Rev 12:12.

Sometimes I wonder if it is all true. Is it really going to happen or is it just a pipe dream and that everything we look forward to is just a fantasy?

I have faith. But sometimes I just wonder if we are barking up the wrong tree. And I feel like Apostles who said ( Luke 17:5)

Now the apostles said to the Lord: “Give us more faith"

Maybe it's a result of depression which I have suffered from since the demise of my wife 2 years ago, and the loneliness that has come with it. I try to get encouragement by attending the meetings ( even though I am PIMO) but find that I don't get what I need even though some of the ones there do try to give me some sympathy. Which I appreciate. But I get the feeling that most of them there are there for the social need that we all have rather than any kind of urgency for the preaching work that should be prevalent if they really believe that the end if soon. Perhaps that is my motivation too.

Anyway, I guess my posting this is to try to get my mind back on track somehow. I can't seem to do this by myself even though I feel that I should be able to as I have a lot of years in the so called "truth".

If I did appreciate the urgency of the time we are living in, shouldn't I also be out shouting it from the rooftops? But I just don't feel the need. I wonder what you all do to keep up your motivation and keep going.

As Jesus said (Matt 24:13)

But the one who has endured to the end will be saved

I pray about it of course but I seem to be running out of steam. I have been waiting, it seems, such a long time.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling post. I'm not even sure what I'm trying to say these days.

The thing that helps me to keep on enduring is the true knowledge we have about life and death. Jehovah gave this knowledge to me when I was 25yrs old, and my life was at rock bottom. Nothing, or no-one else could have hauled me up out of that mess. Life, or should I say "living" never got any easier but just having that knowledge worked wonders for enduring all the hardships. One day, we're going to look back to this time period and realise it was in fact, a really short period of time, just a blip in the grand scheme of things. One day your wife will be back with you, and THAT particular piece of knowledge is so precious, imagine how much worse things would be if we didn't have that knowledge. Hang on tight to that knowledge, it is a gift from Jehovah

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

Are you convinced we are in the time of the end? With WW3 almost happening but never seeming to actually get going. If it's the precursor to the Great Tribulation, then is it wrong to want it to start? How do we know that there is still not another 100 years to go before Jehovah takes action. When can we really understand that Satan has been thrown out of heaven and confined to this Earth with the "short period" remaining that we are told of in Rev 12:12.

Sometimes I wonder if it is all true. Is it really going to happen or is it just a pipe dream and that everything we look forward to is just a fantasy?

I have faith. But sometimes I just wonder if we are barking up the wrong tree. And I feel like Apostles who said ( Luke 17:5)

Now the apostles said to the Lord: “Give us more faith"

Maybe it's a result of depression which I have suffered from since the demise of my wife 2 years ago, and the loneliness that has come with it. I try to get encouragement by attending the meetings ( even though I am PIMO) but find that I don't get what I need even though some of the ones there do try to give me some sympathy. Which I appreciate. But I get the feeling that most of them there are there for the social need that we all have rather than any kind of urgency for the preaching work that should be prevalent if they really believe that the end if soon. Perhaps that is my motivation too.

Anyway, I guess my posting this is to try to get my mind back on track somehow. I can't seem to do this by myself even though I feel that I should be able to as I have a lot of years in the so called "truth".

If I did appreciate the urgency of the time we are living in, shouldn't I also be out shouting it from the rooftops? But I just don't feel the need. I wonder what you all do to keep up your motivation and keep going.

As Jesus said (Matt 24:13)

But the one who has endured to the end will be saved

I pray about it of course but I seem to be running out of steam. I have been waiting, it seems, such a long time.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling post. I'm not even sure what I'm trying to say these days.

I can relate exactly to what you are talking about @Niobium. I too lost my mate almost 3 years ago. It’s been a hard time for me as we were married 38 years. I’m willing to wait for his return. Try to be patient as I know it is very hard. I believe it’s coming soon…probably sooner than we think. Look at pictures, think of all the good times together…look forward and try to think of your mate when she comes back, how you will greet her. That’s what I do.

Meanwhile, I have friends here I communicate with, male and female that help me get through this difficult time. I know that it’s Jehovah that’s been behind this. We talk about spiritual things because many things I thought I understood I realize are not. Please, don’t lose hope…I sincerely don’t believe it will be too long before Jehovah rescues his scattered sheep. Like the scriptures say, “Pray constantly.”

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

“How long Jehovah? How long!” There are several ways to look at this @Niobium. Had it not been for the ingrained assumption that Christ came in 1914, what would todays’ events raise in your mind? The second, less immediate pointer is simply that the world cannot carry on much longer with its handling of pollution, population and food supply, homelessness, drug addiction, and employment. The world may not be at war, but war is inevitable. Just as the bible says, we are being drawn to a conclusion. Though we know not the day or the hour, the biblical pointers are dropping into place.

The reality of the situation though is that existence is secondary to the question of the issues surrounding our existence. The settling of the question of sovereignty. We have the resurrection given us, and our existence is never forgotten by Jehovah. We have also the hard comfort of understanding that should we die beforehand, we are unaware of such - just as the anointed are transfigured in the blink of an eye, so are we effectively between our death and resurrection - just as we are daily through sleep and wakefulness. There is little to fear other that sleeping itself.

Dear Niobium, the reason for life is that we serve Jehovah without seeking a reward other than being allowed to rest during our lifetime through the comfort of faith. The realisation that this is true, gives us the strength to carry on. Acceptance then is the key to finding peace in your heart: in the heart of all of us we must seek such peace and resolution to serve Jehovah, not for reward, but for the magnificence of His righteousness that fills our hearts. We all feel the same if we are honest: “When Jehovah - how LONG?” The answer is, strangely, that it is “Now” if we can find peace in Jehovah’s reassurance that we will be resurrected to an eternal existence in peace and accomplishment for loving Him for what He is. Do we not do so already? The Giver of Life. It will come to pass and you will see it. And the resurrected ones will see it. Until then, seek peace and comfort in Jehovah and He will extend His hand to you and you will find the peace that you seek. Nothing is lost. It all remains. But the end must come first. We must endure. We will endure with you. You are not alone.

 

[MickHewitt]

I'm not convinced that we're living in the "Time Of The End" and/or that Satan has been thrown out of heaven. Put it this way, if both the above have occurred, then I'll be looking keenly for another part of the sequence of events to occur.

Satan has not been removed yet: where may I ask did you get that notion from? Certainly not from the Watchman's writings.

 

[MickHewitt]

Are you convinced we are in the time of the end? With WW3 almost happening but never seeming to actually get going. If it's the precursor to the Great Tribulation, then is it wrong to want it to start? How do we know that there is still not another 100 years to go before Jehovah takes action. When can we really understand that Satan has been thrown out of heaven and confined to this Earth with the "short period" remaining that we are told of in Rev 12:12.

Sometimes I wonder if it is all true. Is it really going to happen or is it just a pipe dream and that everything we look forward to is just a fantasy?

I have faith. But sometimes I just wonder if we are barking up the wrong tree. And I feel like Apostles who said ( Luke 17:5)

Now the apostles said to the Lord: “Give us more faith"

Maybe it's a result of depression which I have suffered from since the demise of my wife 2 years ago, and the loneliness that has come with it. I try to get encouragement by attending the meetings ( even though I am PIMO) but find that I don't get what I need even though some of the ones there do try to give me some sympathy. Which I appreciate. But I get the feeling that most of them there are there for the social need that we all have rather than any kind of urgency for the preaching work that should be prevalent if they really believe that the end if soon. Perhaps that is my motivation too.

Anyway, I guess my posting this is to try to get my mind back on track somehow. I can't seem to do this by myself even though I feel that I should be able to as I have a lot of years in the so called "truth".

If I did appreciate the urgency of the time we are living in, shouldn't I also be out shouting it from the rooftops? But I just don't feel the need. I wonder what you all do to keep up your motivation and keep going.

As Jesus said (Matt 24:13)

But the one who has endured to the end will be saved

I pray about it of course but I seem to be running out of steam. I have been waiting, it seems, such a long time.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling post. I'm not even sure what I'm trying to say these days.

When Satan realizes he has been ousted from heaven the first thing he does is wage war with the remaining ones of her offspring; in Rev12:1,2 she the Woman gives birth to a male child, the Devil tries to thwart this birth by devouring the child in vs4: Please try and keep an open mind Nobium to ones here who have not rested their hope upon a myth or false prophecy. P.S Have you explained your feelings to Jehovah as you have to us? Jah is faithful to His promises....He answers those who call on His name in earnest.

 

[Niobium]

Satan has not been removed yet: where may I ask did you get that notion from? Certainly not from the Watchman's writings.

Thank you for the responses.
I appreciate you all taking the time to reply

My apologies. I worded the question about Satan rather badly. What I meant to ask is how will we be able to recognize that Satan has been cast out of heaven. I do NOT believe that this has occurred yet. It is a future event.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I hope this puts the record straight

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

Thank you for the responses.
I appreciate you all taking the time to reply

My apologies. I worded the question about Satan rather badly. What I meant to ask is how will we be able to recognize that Satan has been cast out of heaven. I do NOT believe that this has occurred yet. It is a future event.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I hope this puts the record straight

I'd say we'll know because all hell is going to break loose.. if we have to wonder if the event has happened or not then it definitely hasn't

 

[Deborah]

Hi Niobium

So sorry about the loss of your mate. I lost my mate in 2020, so I can
Understand about the absence of your loved one.


I also understand lots of what you are questioning.

However, now I just take one day at a time. Everything else I leave in Jehovah's hands. I don't worry about wars, satan being thrown out of heaven or what he is doing. There is not one single thing I can do about any of that. Nothing. In fact since I let go of questioning some things that have not yet been made clear I feel better.

Jehovah left me so much help to live a simple, decent refreshing life. He gave me eyes to see the beauty around me, and read his Word. He gave me ears to hear the wonderful sounds of life during those quiet moments when everyday noise insists on drowning out the wonderful sounds of comfort. He gave me a wonderfully made body, everything I need to take care of myself and I thank him daily for allowing that body to still work even though it is aging every second, and some parts are of that ole bod insist on challenging me. But I press on thanks to my wonderful father Jehovah.

I thank him for giving me a brain, although some of it had to be surgically tightened up due to things beyond my understanding. But what is left of it helps me use my critical thinking skills to keep pressing on and to help others anyway I can. I can still walk, talk, laugh, and reason on things and draw my own conclusions with the help of all the information Jehovah has left me in his Word. I do not rely on MY OWN UNDERSTANDING been there done that in my young years. It did not turn out well. Which is another topic all together.

So what I do now in my ripe older age is create my own peace and not look for others to do that for me. Life experiences taught me that. I look inside myself and sometimes I do ask myself questions when I am upset, etc. Like why does that upset you. What were you expecting. You know when you expect things and it does not turn out the way YOU thought it makes you sad. So stop looking for certain things. Be satisfied and thankful for what understanding Jehovah has giving you and be grateful for what you do understand AT THIS TIME. Not saying to stop making sure of things.

This is only what I do. I seriously am sorry for many of the brothers and sisters. So many have not taken care of themselves over the years and are now suffering mentally, physically, emotionally and FINANCIALLY. Because so many of us listened to those taking the lead and now look. Now most of JW's who are waking up are afraid to death of men. Scared to be recognized for saying things, scared of losing family, scared of so much. Hurts me so much to see this.

To me that is a mental energy zapper. I could no longer live like that so I don't.

So now that I have rambled on with my unsolicited ME comments, I guess I better zip it up.

Nio I hope you are able to get back on track. You are praying so that is good. Jehovah hears you. Give it to him and as the old saying goes DON'T TAKE IT BACK.

OK OLE LADY DEBORAH SIGNING OUT. Hope all enjoy the weekend and the beauty around you without focusing too much on the negatives that we know are going on as we STAY ON THE WATCH. We may not understand most of it right now but my faith is Jehovah is giving us what we need now and the rest will be made clear to all of us who are lovers of truth when it is time. Nothing at all wrong with researching, but please don't let it mess with you so much it gets you depressed or out of sorts. That is not healthy.

Matthew 11: 28

Come to me, all who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh you. (NWT 1984)

PS. Nothing wrong with rambling.

 

[BrooksB]

The fact that you are asking these very pertinent and interesting questions shows to me that you have a tremendous spiritual longing. "Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need". I am right with you Brother @Niobium as I have pondered those questions since my baptism in 1974 when I was repeatedly assured that I was getting in right under the wire. 50 years later and I am still very interested in the exact matters you bring up. That is why I read real spiritual food daily provided by Jehovah and Jesus via their Watchman. The bible really comes alive for me at e-watchman and the interchange of encouragement on this forum absolutely helps me to hang on. Great post Nobium! Thank you!

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

Hi Niobium

So sorry about the loss of your mate. I lost my mate in 2020, so I can
Understand about the absence of your loved one.


I also understand lots of what you are questioning.

However, now I just take one day at a time. Everything else I leave in Jehovah's hands. I don't worry about wars, satan being thrown out of heaven or what he is doing. There is not one single thing I can do about any of that. Nothing. In fact since I let go of questioning some things that have not yet been made clear I feel better.

Jehovah left me so much help to live a simple, decent refreshing life. He gave me eyes to see the beauty around me, and read his Word. He gave me ears to hear the wonderful sounds of life during those quiet moments when everyday noise insists on drowning out the wonderful sounds of comfort. He gave me a wonderfully made body, everything I need to take care of myself and I thank him daily for allowing that body to still work even though it is aging every second, and some parts are of that ole bod insist on challenging me. But I press on thanks to my wonderful father Jehovah.

I thank him for giving me a brain, although some of it had to be surgically tightened up due to things beyond my understanding. But what is left of it helps me use my critical thinking skills to keep pressing on and to help others anyway I can. I can still walk, talk, laugh, and reason on things and draw my own conclusions with the help of all the information Jehovah has left me in his Word. I do not rely on MY OWN UNDERSTANDING been there done that in my young years. It did not turn out well. Which is another topic all together.

So what I do now in my ripe older age is create my own peace and not look for others to do that for me. Life experiences taught me that. I look inside myself and sometimes I do ask myself questions when I am upset, etc. Like why does that upset you. What were you expecting. You know when you expect things and it does not turn out the way YOU thought it makes you sad. So stop looking for certain things. Be satisfied and thankful for what understanding Jehovah has giving you and be grateful for what you do understand AT THIS TIME. Not saying to stop making sure of things.

This is only what I do. I seriously am sorry for many of the brothers and sisters. So many have not taken care of themselves over the years and are now suffering mentally, physically, emotionally and FINANCIALLY. Because so many of us listened to those taking the lead and now look. Now most of JW's who are waking up are afraid to death of men. Scared to be recognized for saying things, scared of losing family, scared of so much. Hurts me so much to see this.

To me that is a mental energy zapper. I could no longer live like that so I don't.

So now that I have rambled on with my unsolicited ME comments, I guess I better zip it up.

Nio I hope you are able to get back on track. You are praying so that is good. Jehovah hears you. Give it to him and as the old saying goes DON'T TAKE IT BACK.

OK OLE LADY DEBORAH SIGNING OUT. Hope all enjoy the weekend and the beauty around you without focusing too much on the negatives that we know are going on as we STAY ON THE WATCH. We may not understand most of it right now but my faith is Jehovah is giving us what we need now and the rest will be made clear to all of us who are lovers of truth when it is time. Nothing at all wrong with researching, but please don't let it mess with you so much it gets you depressed or out of sorts. That is not healthy.

Matthew 11: 28

Come to me, all who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh you. (NWT 1984)

PS. Nothing wrong with rambling.

I liked your comment about the brain, it reminded me of that scripture, “can the hand say to the foot “I have no need of you….can the eye say to the ear I have no need of you…”. What was not recorded was “Hey, let’s try it without the brain…..” and politicians was born…..

 

[Deborah]

I liked your comment about the brain, it reminded me of that scripture, “can the hand say to the foot “I have no need of you….can the eye say to the ear I have no need of you…”. What was not recorded was “Hey, let’s try it without the brain…..” and politicians was born…..

Barns like one of our sisters on forum said recently. I can't wait to meet you in New System. ☺

 

[barry]

Sometimes I wonder if it is all true. Is it really going to happen or is it just a pipe dream and that everything we look forward to is just a fantasy?

I have faith. But sometimes I just wonder if we are barking up the wrong tree. And I feel like Apostles who said ( Luke 17:5)

Now the apostles said to the Lord: “Give us more faith"

I think everyone must have these feelings now and than. I'm asking the same questions now and than.
Sometimes all seems so far away and more like a dream.
We have to keep asking for faith.
Than as already mentioned before we should serve Jehovah even if there would be no reward. He's the Creator and deserves to be worshiped.
Part of me is feeling excited when things happen in the world that would give the idea it's getting closer, but on the other hand I'm also feeling sad thinking about all the people that will be suffering when all these things start to happen.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

Hi Niobium

So sorry about the loss of your mate. I lost my mate in 2020, so I can
Understand about the absence of your loved one.


I also understand lots of what you are questioning.

However, now I just take one day at a time. Everything else I leave in Jehovah's hands. I don't worry about wars, satan being thrown out of heaven or what he is doing. There is not one single thing I can do about any of that. Nothing. In fact since I let go of questioning some things that have not yet been made clear I feel better.

Jehovah left me so much help to live a simple, decent refreshing life. He gave me eyes to see the beauty around me, and read his Word. He gave me ears to hear the wonderful sounds of life during those quiet moments when everyday noise insists on drowning out the wonderful sounds of comfort. He gave me a wonderfully made body, everything I need to take care of myself and I thank him daily for allowing that body to still work even though it is aging every second, and some parts are of that ole bod insist on challenging me. But I press on thanks to my wonderful father Jehovah.

I thank him for giving me a brain, although some of it had to be surgically tightened up due to things beyond my understanding. But what is left of it helps me use my critical thinking skills to keep pressing on and to help others anyway I can. I can still walk, talk, laugh, and reason on things and draw my own conclusions with the help of all the information Jehovah has left me in his Word. I do not rely on MY OWN UNDERSTANDING been there done that in my young years. It did not turn out well. Which is another topic all together.

So what I do now in my ripe older age is create my own peace and not look for others to do that for me. Life experiences taught me that. I look inside myself and sometimes I do ask myself questions when I am upset, etc. Like why does that upset you. What were you expecting. You know when you expect things and it does not turn out the way YOU thought it makes you sad. So stop looking for certain things. Be satisfied and thankful for what understanding Jehovah has giving you and be grateful for what you do understand AT THIS TIME. Not saying to stop making sure of things.

This is only what I do. I seriously am sorry for many of the brothers and sisters. So many have not taken care of themselves over the years and are now suffering mentally, physically, emotionally and FINANCIALLY. Because so many of us listened to those taking the lead and now look. Now most of JW's who are waking up are afraid to death of men. Scared to be recognized for saying things, scared of losing family, scared of so much. Hurts me so much to see this.

To me that is a mental energy zapper. I could no longer live like that so I don't.

So now that I have rambled on with my unsolicited ME comments, I guess I better zip it up.

Nio I hope you are able to get back on track. You are praying so that is good. Jehovah hears you. Give it to him and as the old saying goes DON'T TAKE IT BACK.

OK OLE LADY DEBORAH SIGNING OUT. Hope all enjoy the weekend and the beauty around you without focusing too much on the negatives that we know are going on as we STAY ON THE WATCH. We may not understand most of it right now but my faith is Jehovah is giving us what we need now and the rest will be made clear to all of us who are lovers of truth when it is time. Nothing at all wrong with researching, but please don't let it mess with you so much it gets you depressed or out of sorts. That is not healthy.

Matthew 11: 28

Come to me, all who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh you. (NWT 1984)

PS. Nothing wrong with rambling.

Loved reading that Deborah, thankyou

 

[Ana]

Are you convinced we are in the time of the end? With WW3 almost happening but never seeming to actually get going. If it's the precursor to the Great Tribulation, then is it wrong to want it to start? How do we know that there is still not another 100 years to go before Jehovah takes action. When can we really understand that Satan has been thrown out of heaven and confined to this Earth with the "short period" remaining that we are told of in Rev 12:12.

Sometimes I wonder if it is all true. Is it really going to happen or is it just a pipe dream and that everything we look forward to is just a fantasy?

I have faith. But sometimes I just wonder if we are barking up the wrong tree. And I feel like Apostles who said ( Luke 17:5)

Now the apostles said to the Lord: “Give us more faith"

Maybe it's a result of depression which I have suffered from since the demise of my wife 2 years ago, and the loneliness that has come with it. I try to get encouragement by attending the meetings ( even though I am PIMO) but find that I don't get what I need even though some of the ones there do try to give me some sympathy. Which I appreciate. But I get the feeling that most of them there are there for the social need that we all have rather than any kind of urgency for the preaching work that should be prevalent if they really believe that the end if soon. Perhaps that is my motivation too.

Anyway, I guess my posting this is to try to get my mind back on track somehow. I can't seem to do this by myself even though I feel that I should be able to as I have a lot of years in the so called "truth".

If I did appreciate the urgency of the time we are living in, shouldn't I also be out shouting it from the rooftops? But I just don't feel the need. I wonder what you all do to keep up your motivation and keep going.

As Jesus said (Matt 24:13)

But the one who has endured to the end will be saved

I pray about it of course but I seem to be running out of steam. I have been waiting, it seems, such a long time.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling post. I'm not even sure what I'm trying to say these days.

Querido Niobio, gemimos juntamente y estamos en dolor juntamente cómo bien lo expresa Pablo en su maravilloso capítulo 8 de Romanos. Léelo profundamente cuando sientas que estás abatido, pues no tiene el mismo efecto que con otras emociones a cuestas, al menos para mí. (Romanos 8:22 Porque sabemos que toda la creación sigue gimiendo juntamente y estando en dolor juntamente hasta ahora). Recuerda siempre la importancia del aguante versiculo 24orque fuimos salvados en [esta] esperanza; pero la esperanza que se ve no es esperanza, porque, cuando el hombre ve una cosa, ¿la espera? 25 Pero si esperamos lo que no vemos, seguimos aguardándolo con aguante. Y el aguante es muy importante (Romanos 5:4 el aguante, a su vez, una condición aprobada; la condición aprobada, a su vez, esperanza) pues produce esperanza!! Es como una ecuación matemática, aguante y más aguante, porque sabemos que tampoco estamos sin armas para la apatía, porque el espíritu pide por nosotros (Romanos 8:26-De igual manera el espíritu también acude con ayuda para nuestra debilidad; porque el [problema de] lo que debemos pedir en oración como necesitamos hacerlo no lo sabemos, pero el espíritu mismo aboga por nosotros con gemidos no expresados). Tengo muchas preguntas sobre este pasaje a los que nos gobiernen en el milenio y me encantará comprender mucho mejor la Biblia si pasamos la prueba. Con el nivel de preguntas que tenemos aquí, que se preparen!!! . Versiculo 31-Entonces, ¿qué diremos a estas cosas? Si Dios está por nosotros, ¿quién estará contra nosotros? 32 El que ni aun a su propio Hijo perdonó, sino que lo entregó por todos nosotros, ¿por qué no nos dará bondadosamente también con él todas las demás cosas? Pensemos que todo esto es pasajero, que nada de este sistema será recordado. Que Jehová y su inmenso amor nos cubre cada día. Que te cuide mucho y te consuele Porque estoy convencido de que ni muerte, ni vida, ni ángeles, ni gobiernos, ni cosas aquí ahora, ni cosas por venir, ni poderes, 39 ni altura, ni profundidad, ni ninguna otra creación podrá separarnos del amor de Dios que está en Cristo Jesús nuestro Señor. Con cariño Ana

 

[Ana]

Últimamente en mis mensajes aparece un emoji que no introduzco yo, el de la cara con la lengua fuera. No me.gusta nada además y no le figura si intento eliminarlo . Raro raro...

 

[SusanB]

Are you convinced we are in the time of the end? With WW3 almost happening but never seeming to actually get going. If it's the precursor to the Great Tribulation, then is it wrong to want it to start? How do we know that there is still not another 100 years to go before Jehovah takes action. When can we really understand that Satan has been thrown out of heaven and confined to this Earth with the "short period" remaining that we are told of in Rev 12:12.

Sometimes I wonder if it is all true. Is it really going to happen or is it just a pipe dream and that everything we look forward to is just a fantasy?

I have faith. But sometimes I just wonder if we are barking up the wrong tree. And I feel like Apostles who said ( Luke 17:5)

Now the apostles said to the Lord: “Give us more faith"

Maybe it's a result of depression which I have suffered from since the demise of my wife 2 years ago, and the loneliness that has come with it. I try to get encouragement by attending the meetings ( even though I am PIMO) but find that I don't get what I need even though some of the ones there do try to give me some sympathy. Which I appreciate. But I get the feeling that most of them there are there for the social need that we all have rather than any kind of urgency for the preaching work that should be prevalent if they really believe that the end if soon. Perhaps that is my motivation too.

Anyway, I guess my posting this is to try to get my mind back on track somehow. I can't seem to do this by myself even though I feel that I should be able to as I have a lot of years in the so called "truth".

If I did appreciate the urgency of the time we are living in, shouldn't I also be out shouting it from the rooftops? But I just don't feel the need. I wonder what you all do to keep up your motivation and keep going.

As Jesus said (Matt 24:13)

But the one who has endured to the end will be saved

I pray about it of course but I seem to be running out of steam. I have been waiting, it seems, such a long time.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling post. I'm not even sure what I'm trying to say these days.

Don’t forget to ask Jehovah for holy spirit when you pray. This scripture is mainly to the anointed but by extension I am sure we can benefit as well.

Romans 8:22-26: “For we know that all creation keeps on groaning together and being in pain together until now. Not only that, but we ourselves also who have the firstfruits, namely, the spirit, yes, we ourselves groan within ourselves while we are earnestly waiting for adoption as sons, the release from our bodies by ransom. For we were saved in this hope; but hope that is seen is not hope, for when a man sees a thing, does he hope for it? But if we hope for what we do not see, we keep eagerly waiting for it with endurance. In like manner, the spirit also joins in with help for our weakness; for the problem is that we do not know what we should pray for as we need to, but the spirit itself pleads for us with unuttered groanings.”

 

[SusanB]

Querido Niobio, gemimos juntamente y estamos en dolor juntamente cómo bien lo expresa Pablo en su maravilloso capítulo 8 de Romanos. Léelo profundamente cuando sientas que estás abatido, pues no tiene el mismo efecto que con otras emociones a cuestas, al menos para mí. (Romanos 8:22 Porque sabemos que toda la creación sigue gimiendo juntamente y estando en dolor juntamente hasta ahora). Recuerda siempre la importancia del aguante versiculo 24orque fuimos salvados en [esta] esperanza; pero la esperanza que se ve no es esperanza, porque, cuando el hombre ve una cosa, ¿la espera? 25 Pero si esperamos lo que no vemos, seguimos aguardándolo con aguante. Y el aguante es muy importante (Romanos 5:4 el aguante, a su vez, una condición aprobada; la condición aprobada, a su vez, esperanza) pues produce esperanza!! Es como una ecuación matemática, aguante y más aguante, porque sabemos que tampoco estamos sin armas para la apatía, porque el espíritu pide por nosotros (Romanos 8:26-De igual manera el espíritu también acude con ayuda para nuestra debilidad; porque el [problema de] lo que debemos pedir en oración como necesitamos hacerlo no lo sabemos, pero el espíritu mismo aboga por nosotros con gemidos no expresados). Tengo muchas preguntas sobre este pasaje a los que nos gobiernen en el milenio y me encantará comprender mucho mejor la Biblia si pasamos la prueba. Con el nivel de preguntas que tenemos aquí, que se preparen!!! . Versiculo 31-Entonces, ¿qué diremos a estas cosas? Si Dios está por nosotros, ¿quién estará contra nosotros? 32 El que ni aun a su propio Hijo perdonó, sino que lo entregó por todos nosotros, ¿por qué no nos dará bondadosamente también con él todas las demás cosas? Pensemos que todo esto es pasajero, que nada de este sistema será recordado. Que Jehová y su inmenso amor nos cubre cada día. Que te cuide mucho y te consuele Porque estoy convencido de que ni muerte, ni vida, ni ángeles, ni gobiernos, ni cosas aquí ahora, ni cosas por venir, ni poderes, 39 ni altura, ni profundidad, ni ninguna otra creación podrá separarnos del amor de Dios que está en Cristo Jesús nuestro Señor. Con cariño Ana

We must have written our responses at around the same time. Sorry for the duplicate info. We are definitely sisters.

 

[Ana]

We must have written our responses at around the same time. Sorry for the duplicate info. We are definitely sisters.
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We must have written our responses at around the same time. Sorry for the duplicate info. We are definitely sisters.

Nos pude ver saltando de la mano juntas al unísono,como dos niñas felices de coincidir.

 

[SusanB]

If we each had a world globe in our home and Jehovah put a little light on each location where someone was praying in our behalf, we would probably be very surprised at how many lights there are that we just didn’t realize. Just know that when you see Hawaii on a map, BrooksB and I are praying every single day for all of the forum members.

 

[Ana]

If we each had a world globe in our home and Jehovah put a little light on each location where someone was praying in our behalf, we would probably be very surprised at how many lights there are that we just didn’t realize. Just know that when you see Hawaii on a map, BrooksB and I are praying every single day for all of the forum members.

Si, yo suelo generalizar con un cuida de los chicos del foro, porqué si tuviese que usar los nombres de la gran mayoría de los componentes del foro, la oración no sonaría muy seria, que digamos. , cuida del perro, de Batman, de me gusta la pizza ..

 

[Melinda Riling]

Querido Niobio, gemimos juntamente y estamos en dolor juntamente cómo bien lo expresa Pablo en su maravilloso capítulo 8 de Romanos. Léelo profundamente cuando sientas que estás abatido, pues no tiene el mismo efecto que con otras emociones a cuestas, al menos para mí. (Romanos 8:22 Porque sabemos que toda la creación sigue gimiendo juntamente y estando en dolor juntamente hasta ahora). Recuerda siempre la importancia del aguante versiculo 24orque fuimos salvados en [esta] esperanza; pero la esperanza que se ve no es esperanza, porque, cuando el hombre ve una cosa, ¿la espera? 25 Pero si esperamos lo que no vemos, seguimos aguardándolo con aguante. Y el aguante es muy importante (Romanos 5:4 el aguante, a su vez, una condición aprobada; la condición aprobada, a su vez, esperanza) pues produce esperanza!! Es como una ecuación matemática, aguante y más aguante, porque sabemos que tampoco estamos sin armas para la apatía, porque el espíritu pide por nosotros (Romanos 8:26-De igual manera el espíritu también acude con ayuda para nuestra debilidad; porque el [problema de] lo que debemos pedir en oración como necesitamos hacerlo no lo sabemos, pero el espíritu mismo aboga por nosotros con gemidos no expresados). Tengo muchas preguntas sobre este pasaje a los que nos gobiernen en el milenio y me encantará comprender mucho mejor la Biblia si pasamos la prueba. Con el nivel de preguntas que tenemos aquí, que se preparen!!! . Versiculo 31-Entonces, ¿qué diremos a estas cosas? Si Dios está por nosotros, ¿quién estará contra nosotros? 32 El que ni aun a su propio Hijo perdonó, sino que lo entregó por todos nosotros, ¿por qué no nos dará bondadosamente también con él todas las demás cosas? Pensemos que todo esto es pasajero, que nada de este sistema será recordado. Que Jehová y su inmenso amor nos cubre cada día. Que te cuide mucho y te consuele Porque estoy convencido de que ni muerte, ni vida, ni ángeles, ni gobiernos, ni cosas aquí ahora, ni cosas por venir, ni pod errs, 39 ni altura, ni profundidad, ni ninguna otra creación podrá separarnos del amor de Dios que está en Cristo Jesús nuestro Señor. Con cariño Ana

Translation

Dear Niobius, we groan together and are in pain together as Paul expresses it well in his wonderful 8th chapter of Romans. Read it deeply when you feel that you are dejected, because it does not have the same effect as with other emotions on your back, at least for me. (Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation continues to groan together and to be in pain together until now.) Always remember the importance of endurance verse 24endurance is very important (Romans 5:4 endurance, in turn, an approved condition; the approved condition, in turn, hope) because it produces hope!! It's like a math equation, endurance and more endurance, because we know that we are not without weapons for apathy either, because the spirit prays for us (Romans 8:26-In the same way the spirit also comes with help for our weakness; for the [problem of]what we should ask in prayer as we need to do it we do not know, but the spirit itself pleads for us with unspoken groans). I have many questions about this passage to those who govern us in the millennium and I would love to understand the Bible much better if we pass the test. With the level of questions we have here, get ready!!! .Verse 31—So what shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who will be against us? 32 He who did not spare even his own Son, but gave him up for us all, why will he not graciously give us all other things with him? Let's think that all this is temporary, that nothing of this system will be remembered. May Jehovah and his immense love cover us every day. May I take great care of you and comfort For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor governments, nor things here now, nor things to come, nor power to come, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. With love Ana

 

[Melinda Riling]

Últimamente en mis mensajes aparece un emoji que no introduzco yo, el de la cara con la lengua fuera. No me.gusta nada además y no le figura si intento eliminarlo . Raro raro...

Translation

Lately in my messages there is an emoji that I do not enter, the one of the face with the tongue out. I don't like it at all and it doesn't seem if I try to remove it. Weird weird...

 

[Ana]

Translation

Dear Niobius, we groan together and are in pain together as Paul expresses it well in his wonderful 8th chapter of Romans. Read it deeply when you feel that you are dejected, because it does not have the same effect as with other emotions on your back, at least for me. (Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation continues to groan together and to be in pain together until now.) Always remember the importance of endurance verse 24endurance is very important (Romans 5:4 endurance, in turn, an approved condition; the approved condition, in turn, hope) because it produces hope!! It's like a math equation, endurance and more endurance, because we know that we are not without weapons for apathy either, because the spirit prays for us (Romans 8:26-In the same way the spirit also comes with help for our weakness; for the [problem of]what we should ask in prayer as we need to do it we do not know, but the spirit itself pleads for us with unspoken groans). I have many questions about this passage to those who govern us in the millennium and I would love to understand the Bible much better if we pass the test. With the level of questions we have here, get ready!!! .Verse 31—So what shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who will be against us? 32 He who did not spare even his own Son, but gave him up for us all, why will he not graciously give us all other things with him? Let's think that all this is temporary, that nothing of this system will be remembered. May Jehovah and his immense love cover us every day. May I take great care of you and comfort For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor governments, nor things here now, nor things to come, nor power to come, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. With love Ana