A Vegan Lifestyle—What Does the Bible Say?

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the fallacy lies in that most of what Americans think they are eating is 'meat', is really hormone-injected, anti-biotic filled sentient creatures that live truncated lives of stress and anxiety in confinement of their own feces. Meat that is marketed as free-range and grass-fed paints an illusion of an old-MacDonald 1860's farm to make us feel better.
Totally fine to be anti- fake meat on the basis of health, but just don't be fooled that most of the other meat is 'real' and 'natural', unless you've killed and skinned the wild game yourself. It's interesting to see some so skeptical of big pharma, but then be blinded by big AG.
 
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robins said:
the fallacy lies in that most of what Americans think they are eating is 'meat', is really hormone-injected, anti-biotic filled sentient creatures that live truncated lives of stress and anxiety in confinement of their own feces. Meat that is marketed as free-range and grass-fed paints an illusion of an old-MacDonald 1860's farm to make us feel better.
Totally fine to be anti- fake meat on the basis of health, but just don't be fooled that most of the other meat is 'real' and 'natural', unless you've killed and skinned the wild game yourself. It's interesting to see some so skeptical of big pharma, but then be blinded by big AG.
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My 54 y/o sister is vegan, and is on the kidney transplant list. She believes she eats healthy, but all the over processed crap is killing her... that and the vaccines she took. She's a wonderful person, always positive and loving. My normally laid back dad yelled at her one time because she kept saying she loved this or that. His limit was reached once she said she "loved the Love Boat!" My dad shouted, "You can't love a TV show Marni!" lol

I eat meat, and get mine fresh from local farmers. We decided to raise meat chickens this year. My son said he would process them because I'm weak in that area. The Bible is clear about humans eating meat, so that doesn't need to be debated any longer, but I hope there's no need or desire to eat animals in Paradise. There will be no need to eat a hamburger if there are trees with fruit to satisfy that desire. It sounds far-fetched, but there's no reason to believe it's impossible. Heck, morel mushrooms can be flavored to taste like steak bites today, so there's nothing stopping Jehovah from having a cheeseburger tree in Paradise! If Jehovah allows meat consumption there as He allows it here, so be it... who am I to question God's decisions?

I respect people who choose not to eat meat solely because they love animals. It's the radical control freaks who annoy me. As with almost everything in this system, there are good & bad aspects to the meat industry. There people who subject animals to horrible conditions, but this also happens at puppy mills, research facilities and peoples backyards. Until Jehovah sends Jesus to clean this place up, we're going to be stuck with this evil, so we just need to create peace and love in our sphere of influence. That's why I spoil my animals.
 
Here is an interesting interview I listened to. She brings out some interesting facts.
Who is behind the push to demonize meat eating and push the vegan agenda? Author Jane Buxton joins us to tell us about her research on the best-selling book "The Great Plant-Based Con." Her book is eye-opening! Watch this interview and read it!

It’s worth the almost 21 minutes to watch. You’ll be interested to learn where the government’s food pyramid came from too.


 
This thread started almost a year ago. And it still keeps popping up. Food at the proper time? ;)

Here's something to consider: When the Hebrews were sentenced to wander in the wilderness for 40 years, Jehovah miraculously fed them with manna. It formed on the ground overnight like dew. In the morning, the Hebrews would go out and pick it up. No muss, no fuss. You could eat it raw or boil it, fry it, whatever. That is all they ate, and they were nourished. Manna tasted like sweet cakes. But they craved meat. They whined about the lack of variety and cursed the manna, even though they were perfectly nourished by the bread of heaven. Just say'n. :confused:
 
I used to help my Dad skin deer... He shot it hung it for three days and made sure the blood drained out and then I had to go to work with him skinning and cleaning the deer and my Mom and I cut it up , packaged and labeled it. I wore a buckskin dress to high school that she made( how embarrasing).. She swore we were from the Cherokee, and Huron tribe.. but I think it was more alcohol talking.. anyways , I went hunting with my Dad one time. You know I couldn't shoot anything . He sent me to scare them out of hiding..then we went to shoot pool in a local tavern. It was fun doing something with my Dad.... I never want to skin or clean any animal again, especially fish..Ewwww !.I never had beef until I left home...
 
Watchman said:
This thread started almost a year ago. And it still keeps popping up. Food at the proper time? ;)

Here's something to consider: When the Hebrews were sentenced to wander in the wilderness for 40 years, Jehovah miraculously fed them with manna. It formed on the ground overnight like dew. In the morning, the Hebrews would go out and pick it up. No muss, no fuss. You could eat it raw or boil it, fry it, whatever. That is all they ate, and they were nourished. Manna tasted like sweet cakes. But they craved meat. They whined about the lack of variety and cursed the manna, even though they were perfectly nourished by the bread of heaven. Just say'n. :confused:
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If I had sweet cakes to eat every day that were provided by Jehovah, which means they would be 100% perfectly healthy, I would never eat meat again. Unfortunately, sweet cakes today are pure poison and definitely not manna.
 
Watchman said:
This thread started almost a year ago. And it still keeps popping up. Food at the proper time? ;)

Here's something to consider: When the Hebrews were sentenced to wander in the wilderness for 40 years, Jehovah miraculously fed them with manna. It formed on the ground overnight like dew. In the morning, the Hebrews would go out and pick it up. No muss, no fuss. You could eat it raw or boil it, fry it, whatever. That is all they ate, and they were nourished. Manna tasted like sweet cakes. But they craved meat. They whined about the lack of variety and cursed the manna, even though they were perfectly nourished by the bread of heaven. Just say'n. :confused:
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This video doesn’t promote eating meat but explains the reason for the push behind Plant-based food, which of course the U.N. is behind. Personally, I eat mostly veggies. And I would not have minded eating sweet cakes in the wilderness.
 
Watchman said:
Every week I wait with keen anticipation to see what JW dot org comes up with for their topic of the week. This week it is veganism. It is all about brevity now, to explore a topic as thinly as possible, which is fine, except when you get to answering the question posed: What does the Bible say? The Bible might actually have more to say on a topic than the JW dot org snippet would have you believe.

But since they raised the question, what does the Bible say? Actually, the Bible does record an instance when a strict vegan diet and a heavy meat and wine diet were tested against each other. Three Hebrew boys in captivity in Babylon were undergoing training to be part of the king's extended court. They had access to all of the king's rich fare. Instead, though, the Hebrews asked for vegetables and water, that's it. After a period of 10 days on the diet, the Hebrew boys were found to have a healthier appearance than those who ate from the king's table. Draw your own conclusions.

Of course, Israelites were not required to adopt such a strict diet. Jesus was no vegan. But, if you are going to pretend to provide an answer to what the Bible says perhaps readers deserve to be served a better portion of spiritual food.
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I've just read that article Robert, it says "No one should criticize the choice that another person makes about what he chooses to eat" Romans 14:3, it's a pity they forgot about that scripture when they took away our choice of whether we wanted to get injected or not..
 
jay said:
Those vegan people are off their rocker. No leather shoes, I can't wear flip flops to my tractor job.🤪
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I tried leather shoes once. I’m not surprised vegans don’t eat them -they are very tough and the laces get stuck in your throat. They are just about edible if fried though, especially in duck fat! If you’re driving one of those massive American trucks, I would recommend wearing gloves on your hands rather than shoes anyway! 🤣
 
Proverbs 14 v 15 said:
I've just read that article Robert, it says "No one should criticize the choice that another person makes about what he chooses to eat" Romans 14:3, it's a pity they forgot about that scripture when they took away our choice of whether we wanted to get injected or not..
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Choices weren't taken away from anyone, individuals chose to allowed themselves be manipulated into taking the useless shot.
 
Seventy6 said:
Choices weren't taken away from anyone, individuals chose to allowed themselves be manipulated into taking the useless shot.
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My friends son was told if he didn't get the injections he wouldn't be allowed to continue on the LDC work (RBC) So yes, his choice was definitely taken away from him because he had to stop being part of the team. I know of many others.
 
Proverbs 14 v 15 said:
My friends son was told if he didn't get the injections he wouldn't be allowed to continue on the LDC work (RBC) So yes, his choice was definitely taken away from him because he had to stop being part of the team. I know of many others.
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He made the wrong choice because he allowed himself to be manipulated. ie; his wanting to be included/accepted out weighed his principles prehaps. he was not forced to bend over, or was he??👀
 
Seventy6 said:
He made the wrong choice because he allowed himself to be manipulated. ie; his wanting to be included/accepted out weighed his principles prehaps. he was not forced to bend over, or was he??👀
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I don't really understand what you're trying to say? The lad was forced to give up helping on the LDC work which he'd been enjoying very much. End of.
 
Proverbs 14 v 15 said:
I don't really understand what you're trying to say? The lad was forced to give up helping on the LDC work which he'd been enjoying very much. End of.
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What a horrible predicament to put the brothers and sisters in. I already posted what my JW mother and Aunt had to say to me about my refusal. They do love me, but I was definitely somewhat of an outcast. So, I do have an understanding of the situation refusing to participate could put some in. What pains me to see, is now that the "unvaccinated" have been somewhat vindicated (at least in their own minds) the vitriol (not on this board) that is shown by them toward the "vaccinated". There really is no place for that. It was a massive psyops. Even the 77th Brigade of the British army used fifth generation warfare tactics designed for use against the "enemy" on their own citizenry.
 
Jim said:
What a horrible predicament to put the brothers and sisters in. I already posted what my JW mother and Aunt had to say to me about my refusal. They do love me, but I was definitely somewhat of an outcast. So, I do have an understanding of the situation refusing to participate could put some in. What pains me to see, is now that the "unvaccinated" have been somewhat vindicated (at least in their own minds) the vitriol (not on this board) that is shown by them toward the "vaccinated". There really is no place for that. It was a massive psyops. Even the 77th Brigade of the British army used fifth generation warfare tactics designed for use against the "enemy" on their own citizenry.
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Many people who were able to refuse the vaccine or saw through the propaganda for whatever reason, came close to taking it. Really it is by the “grace of God” that some were able to avoid it. We should be thankful we avoided the vaccine and still have compassion for those who fell for the coercion or who weren’t able to resist. We should not look down on others. How haughty it would be to think the unvaccinated are better or wiser than the vaccinated. We all have different situations, different mental framework, etc.
 
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