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To analyze this question let's analyze some of the ssues involved:
1. The worldwide preaching of the good news before the beginning of the last days (Mark 13:10 , Mathew 24:14)
Before judging the WT completely corrupt, we must acknowledge the unique truths Jehovah used them to preach worldwide. No other group on earth has proclaimed the core truths that separate Bible faith from paganism:
• Who God is — not a Trinity, not Greek philosophy, but Jehovah, the God of Abraham.
• The Kingdom — not heaven-for-all, not “Jesus in your heart,” but a real government replacing human rule.
• The earthly resurrection — rejecting the pagan doctrine of the immortal soul, exposing Satan’s original lie.
• The hope of the anointed — a literal priestly 144,000 ruling with Christ (Rev 5:9-10; 14:1-4).
If Jehovah used ancient Israel despite idolatry, corruption, and rebellion, If He used the apostles despite arguments, pride, and failures, then it is no contradiction that He used the Bible Students / JW movement to revive core Bible truths even while they carried doctrinal errors. Jehovah has always worked with imperfection.
2. Jesus’ illustration of the wheat and the weeds (Mathew 13:24-30)
Jesus said the wheat and weeds , as the real and fake anointed ones , grow together from the first century until the harvest.
There was never a pure organization at any point in history — either ancient Israel or Christianity.
Jehovah guided the Bible Students the same way He guided imperfect Israel:
• He allowed truth to develop gradually
• He permitted Satan to infiltrate early (just like Judas, Diotrephes, Hymenaeus…)
• He allowed organizational idolatry to expose hearts
• He allowed false dates to refine faith
• And He allowed the man of lawlessness to grow inside the organization — not outside
From Catholicism → to Protestantism → to religious freedom in the US → to the Bible Student movement, Jehovah kept the wheat moving forward until the time of the end.
But Satan infiltrated each stage.
Only at the harvest does Jesus separate wheat from weeds.
3. The presence of the man of lawlessness (2 Thessalonians 2)
Before discussing 2 Thessalonians 2, we must take into account a unique, undeniable fact: the only religion on earth that has ever promoted a systematic doctrine of an “invisible presence of Christ” beginning in 1874 and then in 1914 is Jehovah’s Witnesses.
No other religion in the world built its identity around that error.
And Paul said in 2 Thes 2:3–12 that the man of lawlessness would deceive the anointed inside the temple, not the world. The deception is religious, not secular.
So if there is a “deluding influence” permitted by God to test the anointed, where else can it apply except inside the one group that claims Christ’s presence began before the harvest actually comes?
That fits JWs precisely — no one else.
And importantly: Paul never says that the man of lawlessness appears “after” a clean, pure organization is approved.
He says the man of lawlessness sits inside the temple of God from the beginning, claiming divine authority.
Just like in the first century.
The Governing Body’s self-exaltation, their demand for obedience, their “we are the exclusive channel,” and their reinterpretation of failed dates is exactly the fulfillment Paul warned of.
God “lets it happen” not to destroy the anointed, but to test them, just like He allowed false prophets in ancient Israel (Deut 13:1–4).
Regarding the wheat as the real anointed ones, is important to remark that Jesus does not appoint the faithful slave over “all His belongings” until the master comes (Matt 24:45–47).
That is future — during the judgment of the house of God (1 Pet 4:17).
The Governing Body’s claim that they were appointed in 1919 is exactly the delusion Paul describes.
Jehovah allowed them to believe their own interpretation, not because they were “faithful,” but to test the anointed.
Just like He allowed ancient Israel to choose Saul, Jehovah often permits wrong leadership before the real deliverance, to reveal motives and test hearts.
Therefore , the interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 2 actually strengthens the JW fulfillment, not weakens it.
Regarding the man of lawlessness, Paul said:
• sits in the temple of God
• claims divine authority
• is already at work in the congregation
• deceives believers, not the world
• is revealed before the Day of Jehovah
That clearly describes a religious authority inside Christianity.
Only one religious authority today fits every detail:
The Governing Body claiming to be the exclusive channel, enforcing obedience, promoting a false parousia, and expelling any who refuse to bow.
This is not about the world.
This is about the anointed being tested.
Finally: The “perishing” in 2 Thessalonians does not apply to the wheat.
Paul speaks of:
those who “did not accept the love of the truth”
those who “believe the lie”
those who follow the man of lawlessness as their authority
This does not refer to all JWs, just as not all Israelites perished in Korah’s rebellion.
Jehovah permits the deception so the hearts of the anointed and the great crowd can be revealed.
Many will wake up.
Many already are.
Others will harden themselves.
The prophecy fits exactly what we are witnessing.
In summary:
No other religion restored core Bible truths to the world as JWs did.
The wheat and weeds grow together — Jehovah uses imperfect, even corrupted, vessels until the harvest.
No other religion on earth fits the prophetic criteria of promoting a false invisible presence except JWs.
Jesus did not appoint the “faithful and discreet slave over all his belongings" yet .
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Zechariah 13 is indeed relevant, but it’s important to notice what the prophecy actually says. It speaks of two thirds being cut off and one third being refined, but it is addressing those still inside God’s people when the judgment arrives. It says nothing about those who left beforehand. The pattern matches Jesus’ words to the seven congregations in Revelation: Christ always speaks to the congregations themselves, and even in the worst ones he highlights individuals who remain faithful inside them (Revelation 2:24; 3:4). He never praises or directs people to abandon the congregations.
The idea that the “meeting arrangement had its purpose in the past but not now” contradicts Hebrews 10:24–25, which was written specifically with the time of the end in view. Paul doesn’t say to meet “less” as the Day approaches, but “all the more.” The purpose of meetings becomes even more vital during times of confusion—new ones need a place to learn the basics, the congregation provides opportunities for mutual encouragement, and gathering together helps keep spiritual habits and discipline alive. In the first century the congregations had serious problems—false teachers, immoral members, doctrinal confusion—yet Paul still wrote, “when you come together… let all things be for upbuilding” (1 Corinthians 14:26). Meetings existed and were necessary even when congregations were deeply flawed.
Jesus also did not instruct his followers to leave prematurely. The moment to flee comes only when the “disgusting thing stands in the holy place” (Matthew 24:15–16). Leaving early in the first century led to spiritual ruin, and the pattern remains the same today. Remaining until Jehovah’s timing is part of obedience.
There is also comfort for those who have been pushed out or shunned. Jesus personally searches for “the lost sheep” (Luke 15:4–7), and Ezekiel 34 shows that he will hold abusive shepherds accountable and gather the scattered ones back to himself. The refining in Zechariah is not the removal of sincere people, but the purifying of those who stay faithful until the end.
So Zechariah 13 supports the idea that judgment begins with God’s house, but it does not say that meetings or congregations have become spiritually dangerous. Hebrews 10:25 and Revelation’s letters show the same principle: stay faithful within God’s arrangement, trust Christ to expose and remove the corrupt, and wait for Jehovah’s timing rather than taking matters into our own hands.
“Leaving early in the first century led to spiritual ruin, and the pattern remains the same today.”
How do you know this? I’ve never come across any such account in the Bible to support that statement.
WT leadership would have their followers believe that when you depart from the org that you literally disconnect from Jehovah and can only thereafter die a slow spiritual death but we have a large number here that disprove such tripe and have flourished spiritually after taking their leave from WT once they started taking in actual spiritual truths.
How much more evidence, that the man of lawlessness is alive and well in the person(s) of WT leadership, do we need in order to make that personal decision to flee to the mountains?
Their teachings and actions have stumbled hundreds of thousands if not millions of members out of the org with not one peep of remorse for their actions.
How many thousands of JWs died believing the gov body pap that Jehovah (the gov body in reality) had endorsed a deadly vaccine promoted heavily by the scarlet colored wild beast’s sister organization the WHO?
Additionally, the gov body has prioritized its reputation in the eyes of the world far above Jehovahs righteousness in the manner in which it suppressed justice for tens of thousands of child sexual abuse victims by essentially declaring open season on them with the ridiculous two witness rule requirement.
So many instances of WT leadership stumbling it’s members and their in your face arrogance that time doesn’t permit and if you can’t see how utterly insane it would be to entice interested persons to join up into a doomed org and get indoctrinated into its teachings, most of which are false, or to remain inside waiting for apostasy to rear its head any more profoundly than it already has, then you probably won’t ever see it.
Jehovah’s not gonna put a gold star next to your name because you waited for the last inch of the Titanic’s bow to slip beneath the water before you decided to let go but He may hold you accountable for any of those still below and now lost because they bought into your line about staying with the ship.