Burning šŸ”„ Down The House

Citrine

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Weā€™ve been traveling and back now trying to catch up with everyone and our business. What weā€™re seeing is devastating. While we were away two brothers in the local area ā€œdied suddenly ā€œ. Iā€™m heartbroken to report my long time assistant, more of my right hand, has begun having serious cardiovascular issues. Sheā€™s not even 40 yet. Sheā€™s worked with me for years, knows what I know, has seen our machine reports. But the GB updates were more than her and her husband could stand up too. She cried when she got the šŸšŸbut felt assured it was a display of her faith in the GB direction. She cried telling me her current health issues but will not speak the obvious connection. Sheā€˜s reassuring herself the end is close because 1914 and the GB are getting so old now. Iā€™m angry. I want to stand up and scream.
 

SeaGull

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Weā€™ve been traveling and back now trying to catch up with everyone and our business. What weā€™re seeing is devastating. While we were away two brothers in the local area ā€œdied suddenly ā€œ. Iā€™m heartbroken to report my long time assistant, more of my right hand, has begun having serious cardiovascular issues. Sheā€™s not even 40 yet. Sheā€™s worked with me for years, knows what I know, has seen our machine reports. But the GB updates were more than her and her husband could stand up too. She cried when she got the šŸšŸbut felt assured it was a display of her faith in the GB direction. She cried telling me her current health issues but will not speak the obvious connection. Sheā€˜s reassuring herself the end is close because 1914 and the GB are getting so old now. Iā€™m angry. I want to stand up and scream.
:( Sorry for all your frustrations! I know you are holding back a lot! Sometimes I think the pain is so deep, that it's really better if we don't express ourselves, except in prayer to Jehovah. I've know I have made the mistake of saying too much, - it seems that no one is able to see what's really inside the other person's heart. Like their own pain blinds them to anything, except the fantasy they have created in their mind.
 

Medi-tator

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Weā€™ve been traveling and back now trying to catch up with everyone and our business. What weā€™re seeing is devastating. While we were away two brothers in the local area ā€œdied suddenly ā€œ. Iā€™m heartbroken to report my long time assistant, more of my right hand, has begun having serious cardiovascular issues. Sheā€™s not even 40 yet. Sheā€™s worked with me for years, knows what I know, has seen our machine reports. But the GB updates were more than her and her husband could stand up too. She cried when she got the šŸšŸbut felt assured it was a display of her faith in the GB direction. She cried telling me her current health issues but will not speak the obvious connection. Sheā€˜s reassuring herself the end is close because 1914 and the GB are getting so old now. Iā€™m angry. I want to stand up and scream.
Hi Citrine! Sorry for the challenging reports you are having to absorb recently. BTW, I just had fresh pineapple today. I love pineapple! Did your assistant really cry when she got the pineapples LOL? Bromelain anyone LOL?
 

Citrine

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:( Sorry for all your frustrations! I know you are holding back a lot! Sometimes I think the pain is so deep, that it's really better if we don't express ourselves, except in prayer to Jehovah. I've know I have made the mistake of saying too much, - it seems that no one is able to see what's really inside the other person's heart. Like their own pain blinds them to anything, except the fantasy they have created in their mind.
Thank you. Yes Iā€™ve already said too much and we have a lot of suspicion around us. The really painful part is she has worked the vx recovery clinics with us for years! We dug in on the cv šŸ early on and she was 100% no and warning others. Then came those evil GB updates. She absolutely would never have taken them without their pressure! So anyone that wants to say it was ā€œpersonal choice ā€œ needs to acknowledge the total gaslighting that happened and is happening! The GB made it abundantly clear what they wanted the faithful to do and donā€™t you dare question them!
 

Ms_ladyblue

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Weā€™ve been traveling and back now trying to catch up with everyone and our business. What weā€™re seeing is devastating. While we were away two brothers in the local area ā€œdied suddenly ā€œ. Iā€™m heartbroken to report my long time assistant, more of my right hand, has begun having serious cardiovascular issues. Sheā€™s not even 40 yet. Sheā€™s worked with me for years, knows what I know, has seen our machine reports. But the GB updates were more than her and her husband could stand up too. She cried when she got the šŸšŸbut felt assured it was a display of her faith in the GB direction. She cried telling me her current health issues but will not speak the obvious connection. Sheā€˜s reassuring herself the end is close because 1914 and the GB are getting so old now. Iā€™m angry. I want to stand up and scream.
Thatā€™s the problemā€¦a serious problem...that ā€˜it was a display of her faith in the GB direction.ā€™
The problem with that is, it goes against what Jehovah says at Psalm 146:3:
ā€Do not put your trust in princes
Nor in a son of earthling man, who cannot bring salvation.ā€

And that includes the GB.
 

Citrine

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Thatā€™s the problemā€¦a serious problem...that ā€˜it was a display of her faith in the GB direction.ā€™
The problem with that is, it goes against what Jehovah says at Psalm 146:3:
ā€Do not put your trust in princes
Nor in a son of earthling man, who cannot bring salvation.ā€

And that includes the GB.
Yes - a most serious problem! Iā€™m absolutely sick of their self congratulatory garbage šŸ¤®
 

Nomex

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needs to acknowledge the total gaslighting that happened and is happening!
There is a sister we know, who got "Covid" went to the hospital and almost died 'of Covid", (Remedesivir), and now she blames everyone and anything, for her getting Covid, (but never enters her mind Remedesvir almost killed her, or that she's unhealthy, diabetic, overweight etc...no it's the evil unmasked guy) The guy at her work who didn't wear a mask, and by extension, everyone who's not vaccinated. This sister contacted my wife recently to tell her "the latest". The guy who "infected her" (She is now vaccinated), recently visited his Covid positive parents and then immediately returned to work. She flipped out on him, and had to be restrained, her version, something about the guy saying "she needed to be in a cage", she's a black sister, so ...racist.

So long story short, if you go back to the meetings, and you don't "comply" with the GB "mandates" this will be your story. This is how it all unravels, "mother against son, Son against father...etc, etc, etc..."

The GB will not be able to right this sinking ship!
 

evw

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Yes - a most serious problem! Iā€™m absolutely sick of their self congratulatory garbage šŸ¤®
I know you have faith.......This is what Jehovah says by Jeremiah 16:20,21 "Can earthling man make for himself gods when they are no gods?" 21 ā€œTherefore here I am causing them to know; at this one time I shall cause them to know my hand and my mightiness, and they will have to know that my name is Jehovah.ā€
It helps me to hold on :)
 

MickHewitt

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Yes - a most serious problem! Iā€™m absolutely sick of their self congratulatory garbage šŸ¤®
Imagine how Jah and Christ feel? Incredible patience on their part. So sorry to hear you are going through this garbage as you say. I, after being reinstated early 2016 posted on FB that I was 'Love bombed'.....I heard later it hurt some of them to read it....I'm not the best diplomat...chortle.
 

LifeLearning

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Thank you. Yes Iā€™ve already said too much and we have a lot of suspicion around us. The really painful part is she has worked the vx recovery clinics with us for years! We dug in on the cv šŸ early on and she was 100% no and warning others. Then came those evil GB updates. She absolutely would never have taken them without their pressure! So anyone that wants to say it was ā€œpersonal choice ā€œ needs to acknowledge the total gaslighting that happened and is happening! The GB made it abundantly clear what they wanted the faithful to do and donā€™t you dare question them!
The governing body will have to stand, each one before Christ and explain how this was not coercion. I would not want to be an elder trying to explain my involvement either. Learn humility you shepherds.
 

Citrine

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The governing body will have to stand, each one before Christ and explain how this was not coercion. I would not want to be an elder trying to explain my involvement either. Learn humility you shepherds.
Theyā€™re working overtime to cover their tracks! Now theyā€™re shouting everyone had their personal choice and it was an individual decision when they know darn well they were giving a direct ā€commandā€! My husband is really struggling as an elder and wants to step down. He already tried to stop being a group overseer but the other brothers wouldnā€™t hear of it! We have not been in person once and donā€™t intend to. How can they still view him as ā€a good overseer ā€œ when heā€™s not there?! Weā€™re baffled by their reaction.
 
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PJ54

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Theyā€™re working overtime to cover their tracks! Now theyā€™re shouting everyone had their personal choice and it was an individual decision when they know darn well they were giving a direct ā€commandā€! My husband is really struggling as an elder and wants to step down. He already tried to stop being a group overseer but the other brothers wouldnā€™t hear of it! We have not been in person once and donā€™t intend to. How can they still view him as ā€a good overseer ā€œ when heā€™s not there?! Weā€™re baffled by their reaction.
Sounds like they're not allowing you guys to fade. Reminds me of Kim's situation. She ended up fleeing since the elders were constantly on her tail.
 
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Zane

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My husband is really struggling as an elder and wants to step down. He already tried to stop being a group overseer but the other brothers wouldnā€™t hear of it! We have not been in person once and donā€™t intend to. How can they still view him as ā€a good overseer ā€œ when heā€™s not there?! Weā€™re baffled by their reaction.

He could always just follow the directions in the Bible and point out the errors of the GB to the sheep that he shepherds.

(Acts 5:20) ā€œGo and take your stand in the temple, and keep on speaking to the people all the sayings about this life.ā€

(1 Timothy 6:12) Fight the fine fight of the faith; get a firm hold on the everlasting life for which you were called and you offered the fine public declaration in front of many witnesses.

(Titus 1:13, 14) This witness is true. For this very reason, keep on reproving them with severity so that they may be healthy in the faith, 14 paying no attention to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn away from the truth.

(Ephesians 5:10, 11) Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord; 11 and stop sharing in the unfruitful works that belong to the darkness; rather, expose them for what they are.

(Galatians 2:14) But when I saw that they were not walking in step with the truth of the good news, I said to CeŹ¹phas before them all:

(2 Corinthians 11:10) As surely as the truth of Christ is in me, I will not stop this boasting...


(1 Timothy 4:16) Pay constant attention to yourself and to your teaching. Persevere in these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you.

:)
 

Jah-son

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Theyā€™re working overtime to cover their tracks! Now theyā€™re shouting everyone had their personal choice and it was an individual decision when they know darn well they were giving a direct ā€commandā€! My husband is really struggling as an elder and wants to step down. He already tried to stop being a group overseer but the other brothers wouldnā€™t hear of it! We have not been in person once and donā€™t intend to. How can they still view him as ā€a good overseer ā€œ when heā€™s not there?! Weā€™re baffled by their reaction.
Wow, I can't imagine how your husband is coping with his elder responsibilities during all of this nonsense. I feel for him. I was reccomend to be appointed as an elder early on in the plandemic but I turned it down due to my disgust with the GB update fiasco. My conscience would never allow me to encourage the friends to follow the deadly directions of the GB. And now that I know what they are capable of I'll never accept that position.

The org knows that they are bleeding (rapidly loosing trust and members). They were already in desperate need of qualified brothers in the congregations even before the plannedemic. I'm sure it's much worse now with the health issues from the injections and those being stumbled by the GB's misdirection. They wouldn't be eager to let your husband off the hook. I was told that at the most recent elders school they were encouraged to make a priority to train potential brothers for positions of responsibility in the congregations partly due to the loss of qualified brothers from "sickness" (I don't remember exactly how it was stated but something to that effect).
 

SusanB

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Wow, I can't imagine how your husband is coping with his elder responsibilities during all of this nonsense. I feel for him. I was reccomend to be appointed as an elder early on in the plandemic but I turned it down due to my disgust with the GB update fiasco. My conscience would never allow me to encourage the friends to follow the deadly directions of the GB. And now that I know what they are capable of I'll never accept that position.

The org knows that they are bleeding (rapidly loosing trust and members). They were already in desperate need of qualified brothers in the congregations even before the plannedemic. I'm sure it's much worse now with the health issues from the injections and those being stumbled by the GB's misdirection. They wouldn't be eager to let your husband off the hook. I was told that at the most recent elders school they were encouraged to make a priority to train potential brothers for positions of responsibility in the congregations partly due to the loss of qualified brothers from "sickness" (I don't remember exactly how it was stated but something to that effect).
I also saw the push to train the young brothers.
 

kirmmy

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Sounds like they're not allowing you guys to fade. Reminds me of Kim's situation. She ended up fleeing since the elders were constantly on her tail.
Not only that, I related an experience by a young Brother here previously, and without going into the details again, I will tell you that, in some cases, they will run you to ground. Picture yourself as Sarah Conner and they are the Terminator. They will come to your house constantly and at the strangest hours. They will leave messages on your answering machine constantly. They will even visit your workplace to "talk" to you. So your boss and coworkers know two strange men in suits are in the reception area waiting to talk to you. I'm sure you can see how that would go over. Like a lead balloon.

If they had tried that crap with me. The hunters would have become the hunted. Two can play that game. I wonder how Brother Elder #1 would feel when I show up at HIS job with a bundle of flowers and a large card that says: "To my gay lover, whom I will always love" and a large rainbow across the card. Elder #2 would receive a call at work from the FBI/ATF/CIA regarding a question about some children that have gone missing. Of course all that info would go through the receptionist before Agent Me had to take an emergency call and would hang up. :LOL:
 
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