By pass the organization???

coinlady

Active member
I haven't posted in awhile...however I never miss a day on this forum. I love all of you! I've known the Truth for over 40 years. I never could keep up with the reading all the watchtowers and awake other than the Sunday watchtower study. Even the Book study was hard and only when I had a part on the theocratic school was I prepared. Yet since this past March...when I came across Robert's channel (I KNOW it was ONLY thru Jehovah that I found Robert) every morning the first thing I log onto is e-watchman...the last thing before I go to bed is the same. I can't get enough information. Here's my question....I totally GET THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TRUTH....My zeal is on fire!!! How do I talk to non-Jehovah's witnesses who know nothing about the basics and by pass the organization??
 

MickHewitt

Well-known member
I haven't posted in awhile...however I never miss a day on this forum. I love all of you! I've known the Truth for over 40 years. I never could keep up with the reading all the watchtowers and awake other than the Sunday watchtower study. Even the Book study was hard and only when I had a part on the theocratic school was I prepared. Yet since this past March...when I came across Robert's channel (I KNOW it was ONLY thru Jehovah that I found Robert) every morning the first thing I log onto is e-watchman...the last thing before I go to bed is the same. I can't get enough information. Here's my question....I totally GET THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TRUTH....My zeal is on fire!!! How do I talk to non-Jehovah's witnesses who know nothing about the basics and by pass the organization??
If ever Christ's signs were upon us seeing 'Peace being taken from the earth'. What's done in the darkness is now being shown' 'People becoming faint out of fear in expectation'. Just for starters?
 

BagdadBill

Well-known member
How do I talk to non-Jehovah's witnesses who know nothing about the basics and by pass the organization??
To go along with Mick I would say maybe not so different than we ever did before. I stumble, sin, trip over my feet and sin some more but I never really stopped preaching altogether. I was this way before I ever met up with the Watchtower. Somehow I knew that if you know what is coming then you have the obligation to tell people. I am no great evangelizer but that may change very soon. Send me, right? Work into it like we always did with bringing up how crazy the world is but maybe tip toe around the special injections designed to eliminate mankind.
The problem is that the people pushing the jabbity jab are the ones designing the economic meltdown and all the fun stuff like world war 3. You already have what you need. Truth about God and Jesus. The rest will fill itself in because of your knowledge
 

kenmuldoon55

Well-known member
I haven't posted in awhile...however I never miss a day on this forum. I love all of you! I've known the Truth for over 40 years. I never could keep up with the reading all the watchtowers and awake other than the Sunday watchtower study. Even the Book study was hard and only when I had a part on the theocratic school was I prepared. Yet since this past March...when I came across Robert's channel (I KNOW it was ONLY thru Jehovah that I found Robert) every morning the first thing I log onto is e-watchman...the last thing before I go to bed is the same. I can't get enough information. Here's my question....I totally GET THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TRUTH....My zeal is on fire!!! How do I talk to non-Jehovah's witnesses who know nothing about the basics and by pass the organization??
Probably a fools errand to get people to see what’s going on now.
Seed planting at best.
Too many entanglements of daily life.
However, once the system collapses, we should find many ears willing to listen.
 

Driven

Well-known member
I haven't posted in awhile...however I never miss a day on this forum. I love all of you! I've known the Truth for over 40 years. I never could keep up with the reading all the watchtowers and awake other than the Sunday watchtower study. Even the Book study was hard and only when I had a part on the theocratic school was I prepared. Yet since this past March...when I came across Robert's channel (I KNOW it was ONLY thru Jehovah that I found Robert) every morning the first thing I log onto is e-watchman...the last thing before I go to bed is the same. I can't get enough information. Here's my question....I totally GET THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TRUTH....My zeal is on fire!!! How do I talk to non-Jehovah's witnesses who know nothing about the basics and by pass the organization??
It’s tough to condense it down to a one-size fits all. You first need to find out what your “householder” knows about the bible and/or believes. Then, pray and Jehovah will show you a point that you might be able to expand on. Also, whatever they believe find out how they came to their understanding. I think the conversation will naturally develop into something bible based.
 

Nomex

Well-known member
It's look more and more like the GT will be a nuclear exchange. With what's going on in Kalingrad now, and how hard Nato is pushing to get into full blown WWIII, those of us that survive the nuclear exchange, will have plenty of ammo to use to talk about. I have speculated, that the GT being cut short will have obvious signs of something miraculous having happened. Satan will take credit for it, through the 8th King, if not directly somehow as the actual 8th King, and the divide (the Mark of the Beast) will be who we believe gets credit for stopping the nuclear holocaust God or Satan.

I think what i just wrote is an over simplification, but it looks like this is where we are heading. The funny thing will be, once everything happens we will be the ones with the actually insight to what happens next and NOT WT! Oh the irony!
I never could keep up with the reading all the watchtowers and awake other than the Sunday watchtower study. Even the Book study was hard and only when I had a part on the theocratic school was I prepared. Yet since this past March...when I came across Robert's channel (I KNOW it was ONLY thru Jehovah that I found Robert) every morning the first thing I log onto is e-watchman...the last thing before I go to bed is the same. I can't get enough information.
This is so true for me as well. When I was young I absorbed so much, but I think what happened when I became an adult, among many things, was there was no meat, and so I didn't have any real interest in the same old flavor they kept serving over and over. That is not to say I didn't enjoy certain things, but I think the reality was, they were serving milk, and none of us really realized it until now, and WT still hasn't figured it out.

By the time I was in my early 20's I had already passed the mental maturity as far as understanding the bible, than most JW's, but I was like the Eunuch would had no one to guide me. I knew I was being fed a lot of BS, but that as far as my understanding went. When I found this site it was like finding something I was starved for, but had no idea this was out there, and the efforts the WT goes to, to try to stop us from finding out is the real crime, and one of many I am convinced now, will have them before the throne with no good answers.
 

Driven

Well-known member
It's look more and more like the GT will be a nuclear exchange. With what's going on in Kalingrad now, and how hard Nato is pushing to get into full blown WWIII, those of us that survive the nuclear exchange, will have plenty of ammo to use to talk about. I have speculated, that the GT being cut short will have obvious signs of something miraculous having happened. Satan will take credit for it, through the 8th King, if not directly somehow as the actual 8th King, and the divide (the Mark of the Beast) will be who we believe gets credit for stopping the nuclear holocaust God or Satan.

I think what i just wrote is an over simplification, but it looks like this is where we are heading. The funny thing will be, once everything happens we will be the ones with the actually insight to what happens next and NOT WT! Oh the irony!

This is so true for me as well. When I was young I absorbed so much, but I think what happened when I became an adult, among many things, was there was no meat, and so I didn't have any real interest in the same old flavor they kept serving over and over. That is not to say I didn't enjoy certain things, but I think the reality was, they were serving milk, and none of us really realized it until now, and WT still hasn't figured it out.

By the time I was in my early 20's I had already passed the mental maturity as far as understanding the bible, than most JW's, but I was like the Eunuch would had no one to guide me. I knew I was being fed a lot of BS, but that as far as my understanding went. When I found this site it was like finding something I was starved for, but had no idea this was out there, and the efforts the WT goes to, to try to stop us from finding out is the real crime, and one of many I am convinced now, will have them before the throne with no good answers.
Hi Brother Nomex, KevinB posted an interesting link to a document that you might want to read on the “Music with a Message”. Check it out when you have time.
 

The God Pill

Well-known member
It's look more and more like the GT will be a nuclear exchange. With what's going on in Kalingrad now, and how hard Nato is pushing to get into full blown WWIII, those of us that survive the nuclear exchange, will have plenty of ammo to use to talk about. I have speculated, that the GT being cut short will have obvious signs of something miraculous having happened. Satan will take credit for it, through the 8th King, if not directly somehow as the actual 8th King, and the divide (the Mark of the Beast) will be who we believe gets credit for stopping the nuclear holocaust God or Satan.

I think what i just wrote is an over simplification, but it looks like this is where we are heading. The funny thing will be, once everything happens we will be the ones with the actually insight to what happens next and NOT WT! Oh the irony!

This is so true for me as well. When I was young I absorbed so much, but I think what happened when I became an adult, among many things, was there was no meat, and so I didn't have any real interest in the same old flavor they kept serving over and over. That is not to say I didn't enjoy certain things, but I think the reality was, they were serving milk, and none of us really realized it until now, and WT still hasn't figured it out.

By the time I was in my early 20's I had already passed the mental maturity as far as understanding the bible, than most JW's, but I was like the Eunuch would had no one to guide me. I knew I was being fed a lot of BS, but that as far as my understanding went. When I found this site it was like finding something I was starved for, but had no idea this was out there, and the efforts the WT goes to, to try to stop us from finding out is the real crime, and one of many I am convinced now, will have them before the throne with no good answers.
Yes the organization was a good foundation but for those like you and many here with more spiritual hunger than the rank and file eventually we hit a plateu with the org. Robert's certainly provided much meat.
 

coinlady

Active member
It’s tough to condense it down to a one-size fits all. You first need to find out what your “householder” knows about the bible and/or believes. Then, pray and Jehovah will show you a point that you might be able to expand on. Also, whatever they believe find out how they came to their understanding. I think the conversation will naturally develop into something bible based.
I agree...so many people are looking for answers to whats going on. More people are looking to the bible than any other time that I can remember. I am having wonderful conversations....how do you tell those interested in what I have shown them that ...Jehovah's Witnesses have the Truth but the organization is corrupt. I would not recommend to the that they go to the Kingdom Hall. I certainly would not recommend them to go to a church.
 

Driven

Well-known member
I agree...so many people are looking for answers to whats going on. More people are looking to the bible than any other time that I can remember. I am having wonderful conversations....how do you tell those interested in what I have shown them that ...Jehovah's Witnesses have the Truth but the organization is corrupt. I would not recommend to the that they go to the Kingdom Hall. I certainly would not recommend them to go to a church.
I encourage bible reading and hopefully even a bible study. For me personally, I cannot direct them to the organization but I just tell them the truth about it. The meetings right now are so contaminated I couldn’t recommend them to anyone in good conscience. But the Enjoy Life Forever is a great bible study aid.
 

יהוה_saves

Well-known member
hi @coinlady

Reaching out to non JWs really means starting with the basic doctrines and perhaps moving into rev 13- thé rise of Eighth King (NWO), its 42 month rule, warning them NOT to receive the mark of the beast and if you can get them to understand those concepts, it’s a great start. Maybe give them the link to this forum so they can ask questions, get answers and engage others.

The last thing you want to do is direct them to the org, or its website, that will only confuse them. Ofc, the org has plent of good publications, you’d probably have to go through one before having any bible study q/a and remove any/all references to 1914 and other references that we know now to be incorrect. That’s totally doable.

I’m glad you to your name here again! Welcome back!
 

MickHewitt

Well-known member
hi @coinlady

Reaching out to non JWs really means starting with the basic doctrines and perhaps moving into rev 13- thé rise of Eighth King (NWO), its 42 month rule, warning them NOT to receive the mark of the beast and if you can get them to understand those concepts, it’s a great start. Maybe give them the link to this forum so they can ask questions, get answers and engage others.

The last thing you want to do is direct them to the org, or its website, that will only confuse them. Ofc, the org has plent of good publications, you’d probably have to go through one before having any bible study q/a and remove any/all references to 1914 and other references that we know now to be incorrect. That’s totally doable.

I’m glad you to your name here again! Welcome back!
Yes we are survivors of Watchtower no longer supporting ourselves upon the one who struck us but on Jehovah ISA 10:20.
 
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