CERN reopening

PJ54

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For the divine council theory part a good start is YouTube videos and books featuring Michael Heiser (unfortunately he's a trinitarian) his insight in this topic is pretty good based on passages in Genesis, Deuteronomy, Psalms and Daniel.

On the other parts yes old testament apocrypha the ones that get into the territory of my last post are primarily 1 Enoch, Jubilees, Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs and Tobit. All apocrypha should be tested by readers some are good, some edifying or supplementary but not scripture level, some are partially authentic or had authentic source material but are partially corrupted, some are frauds additionally you'll have some books that are very harmonious and others that are mutually exclusive. Digging is an enriching experience. It may be hard to find hard copies that are very comprehensive but it's pretty easy to find a couple editions online or YouTube audiobooks that are free. The full version Cepher bible app has the bible and a few dozen OT apocrypha for $22 haven't read them through it but it might be nice because then it'd include a version of the divine name.

www.biblestudytools.com

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^ this online Septuagint includes the deuterocanon that catholics and orthodox. There's a lot of other books

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Apocrypha - Sacred-Texts

The Apocrypha Apocrypha means ‘hidden things’ in Greek. The Apocryphical books of the Bible fall into two categories: texts which were included in some canonical version of the Bible at some point, and other texts of a Biblical nature which have never been canonical. Deuterocanonical Apocrypha...
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^ a good portion of the other ones are on this site.

This YouTube channel has audiobooks of number of them


There may be some that aren't available in those sources I'll get back with you tommorow if any come to mind. I think Jubilees is the best start if historical narrative is the first genre you want to dig into. Many apocrypha were in the kjv until the mid to late 19th century.
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Sweet! Thank you!
 
Shekinah

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Yes that's where evil spirits are imprisoned if not on earth or heaven before there destruction. According to several pieces of second temple period literature the first wave of fallen angels the pre flood ones are confined there and for lack of a better term 90% of the nephilims ghost were sent there shortly after the flood in response to a prayer from Noah the remainder roam the earth serving Satan. Part of divine council theory is the notion there was a post flood defection of angelic princes (higher up the totem pole than the pre flood rebels) these 70-72 were placed over the nations after the division at Babel in a function similar to Michael's as prince of Daniel's people but at some point over the next few centuries they became corrupt in how they handled there responsibilities and were judged adversely in Psalms at some point and standing condemned to eventually perish would've aligned with the devil. If all that's correct there's some evil forces in the abyss right now some with free roam in heaven and earth and some not abyssed but stuck on earth.
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Thank you for that explanation, so who are the Locusts with Gold Crowns which come up onto the earth from out of the Abyss?
 
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There are several clues to suggest locust are pre flood fallen angels first going by the kingdom interlinear the angel with the key goes Into the earth. Second the repeated association with scorpions is significant because Jesus referred to demons once snakes and scorpions in Luke. The KI also translates the word that's torment in most translations as treat unrighteously. What makes more sense the people wanting to die because the annointed are preaching or because demons are tormenting them. The length of time 5 months is not random if you go back to Genesis you'll see that was the length of the flood from the start to when the boat settled on Ararat. This is unlikely a coincidental association the locusts with the flood/pre flood world.

The crowns could be a reference to the watchers because they had chiefs of tens or likely because there authority would exceed all their children's spirits that roamed the earth for thousands of years. I'll be honest however the Greek word used for crown in the verse is Stephanos which is the strongest argument to the possibility of it being the annointed.

The locusts are released I believe as an initial part of the penalty to those of Jehovah's people that do not have the mark of the secretaries inkhorn in Ezekiel before they are killed of to ruination.

As for Abbaddon that Hebrew word appears several times in the old testament never refers in OT to Jehovah or Jesus in those instances, and the CERN facility was built at the location of an ancient temple to Apollo

Proverbs 27
20 Sheʹol and Abbadon themselves do not get satisfied; neither do the eyes of a man get satisfied.

Job 26
5 The Rephaim in death keep trembling Beneath the waters and those residing in them. 6 Sheʹol is naked in front of him, And Abbadon has no covering.

Job 28
22 Abbadon and death themselves have said, ‘With our ears we have heard a report of it.’

Proverbs 15
11 Sheʹol and Abbadon are in front of Jehovah. How much more so the hearts of the sons of mankind!

Job 31
12 For that is a fire that would eat clear to Abbadon, And among all my produce it would take root.

Psalms 88
10 For those who are dead will you do a marvel? Or will Rephaim themselves arise, Will they laud you? Seʹlah.11 Will your loving-kindness be declared in the grave itself, Your faithfulness in Abbadon?

It's a possibility that if Abbadon is king of the locusts it could be Samyaza the leader of the 200 or it could be Gog because when Amos talks about locusts in the Septuagint version of Amos 7 Gog is mentioned as King of them
 
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The armies of cavalry given the snake tails (in the gospels Christians given authority to trample demons refered to as snakes and scorpions) could be a later wave of release where the 90% of nephilim spirits are released later. The spirits of three generations of atrocities Giants Naphil and Elioud not even counting the animal hybrids would make for a large force.
Not as confident in interpreting the cavalry but it makes sense because in the Ezekiel temple purge those not sighing and groaning are eventually killed. I'm not going to pretend I have all this figured out and while I might in some minor areas vary in views from Robert in general I view him as vastly superior in matters of prophecy.
 
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Jordan Seager

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In addition to potentially creating black holes that device is powerful enough theoretically it could accidentally produce strange quarks which convert adjacent matter into there own form very rapidly converting the earth into a blob of matter that probably doesn't even have any molecules. It's not out of the question the device could invert the Earth's magnetic field or open portals. And it was used in the past largely to research the higgs field and gravity nothing dangerous could result from that eh? Essentially there isn't just one way that collider could annihilate the human race but several. It was shut down one time years back by an act of god a rodent interfered with it (and allegedly when they were in the middle of something nefarious)

Conspiracy theorist believe the colliders purpose is to attempt to jailbreak the 200 watchers out of the abyss many of them also believe that one of several purposes of the d wave quantum computer besides sentient world simulation are vain attempts to crack a hypothetical code (key to the abyss) to release them prematurely.
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Aren't the 200 watchers from Enoch? I know it's not God inspired but I also don't know if it's literal. I should research that.
 
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Aren't the 200 watchers from Enoch? I know it's not God inspired but I also don't know if it's literal. I should research that.
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I'm sure we'll know in the new system it's degree of authenticity and how much of it is because 1 Enoch has five sections that were there own books before compilation the most Christian supporting one the book of parables has only been found in Ethiopia so far though it may have been present in the dead sea scrolls because several Aramaic copies were sold to private collectors and we don't know the contents. Parts of the latter half of 1 Enoch include excerpts from the book of Noah. 1 Enoch does say that it is written for the last generation of this system of things but that might mean only the 1st section the book of the watchers rather than all of it. So it could be any number of 1/5th's of the book are legit or not. R H Charles translates a few verses inaccurately one example is when a person reads ten thousand years and there are a few differences between Greek and Ethiopic texts both align with Jubilees but the Greek in more ways.
 
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I'm sure we'll know in the new system it's degree of authenticity and how much of it is because 1 Enoch has five sections that were there own books before compilation the most Christian supporting one the book of parables has only been found in Ethiopia so far though it may have been present in the dead sea scrolls because several Aramaic copies were sold to private collectors and we don't know the contents. Parts of the latter half of 1 Enoch include excerpts from the book of Noah. 1 Enoch does say that it is written for the last generation of this system of things but that might mean only the 1st section the book of the watchers rather than all of it. So it could be any number of 1/5th's of the book are legit or not. R H Charles translates a few verses inaccurately one example is when a person reads ten thousand years and there are a few differences between Greek and Ethiopic texts both align with Jubilees but the Greek in more ways.
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Regardless, it's a fascinating book.
 
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Sweet! Thank you!
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I've been wanting to arrange a group study hangout with some brothers I've known a decade from a nearby hall for a few months but logistics haven't been good. Would you be up for examining testament of the twelve patriarchs on zoom or Discord in the next month? Any/everyone here is equally welcome 🤗
 
kirmmy

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Well if you were to choose a sy-fi universe to be in 40k would be the last place to go to. Basically the eye of terror is a gate way to hell where the gods of chaos dwell.
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Your talking about Warhammer again, ain't ya Paul?
 
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Some of us have already made the connection between computers, binary logic and I Ching divination and of course there's the Mac logo and there first computer priced at $666.66 but some other connections are of course that Python programming language given python in the ancient world's association with divination and how the main goal of government, intelligence, corporate and oligarch interest is to predict the future via metadata based simulations. Computers stats are usually exponents of 2 and 64 the number of possible I Ching combinations of 2 to the 6th, 4 cubed and 8 squared. Nintendo 64's logos a cube each face being the letter N and there subsequent console was the GameCube. The large hadron collider is built on an ancient temple of Apollo a second Delphi of sorts and of course Vatican has the meaning of divining serpent.
 
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PJ54

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Jess said:
Just reading about this....it is being turned on the 3rd of July and fully activated on July 5th. Great.:oops::oops::oops:
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Better get ready for some anomalies. People have been talking about UFO's with footage so if anything weird happens we know that this event might have to do something with it. Perhaps, there's something with the planets & stars aligned a certain way at that time. Plus, this might be the last 4th of July popping up.
 
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