Chapter 15 - London Has Fallen

SusanB

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Here is a link to the full chapter for reading and for audio: http://jehovah-is-king.com/satans-throne/

I thought I would kick off a review of Chapter 15 by quoting Robert King from the beginning of Chapter 15, which includes scripture too. It appears to me that even though everything seems to be moving slowly to Jehovah’s Day, it does appear to be speeding up in the badness that we see daily.

Just as all the nations of the earth are likened to symbolic trees planted in the Garden of Eden, Jehovah’s forest of treelike nations has an appointed overseer, as did Eden originally. The overseer of nations in Ezekiel’s prophecy is the king of Tyre, of whom Ezekiel 28:13-14 says: “You were in Eden, the garden of God. You were adorned with every precious stone —Ruby, topaz, and jasper; chrysolite, onyx, and jade; sapphire, turquoise, and emerald; and their settings and mountings were made of gold. They were prepared on the day you were created. I assigned you as the anointed covering cherub. You were on the holy mountain of God, and you walked about among fiery stones.”

While it is evident that Jehovah was referring to Satan the Devil before his rebellion, why does God link the king of Tyre with the anointed cherub of Eden? The answer has to do with the fact that the real rulers of our world are not human at all. Jesus and his enlightened apostles revealed that wicked spirits in heavenly places are the real authorities and principalities that have dominated this wicked system of things since Adam and Eve listened to the lying cherub of Eden.”
 
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Watchman

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Here's a link. In the 26th chapter of Ezekiel Jehovah says of Tyre: "When I devastate you like the cities that are not inhabited, when I overwhelm you with the surging waters and the mighty waters have covered you..." Also, likening Tyre to a sailing vessel the 27th chapter states: "Now you have been wrecked in the open sea, in the deep waters, and all your merchandise and your people have sunk with you."

I had always understood these passages regarding the prized city sinking into the sea to be symbolic. Now, I am not so sure. A few days ago the former president of Russia, Dmitry Medvedev, stated on his Telegraph channel that Britain is the eternal enemy of Russia. He got that right. DM went on to say, until this: “Dank island sinks into the abyss of the sea from a wave triggered by a cutting-edge Russian weapons system.”

As you may or may not know, Russia has developed a doomsday torpedo with a huge nuclear device that slams into coastal waters and creates a 1,000-foot Tsunami which salts the land with radioactivity even after the water dissipates. Jesus said something about "there will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and its agitation. People will become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken."

Sounds pretty scary to me.
 
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Revvzone

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Here's a link. In the 26th chapter of Ezekiel Jehovah says of Tyre: "When I devastate you like the cities that are not inhabited, when I overwhelm you with the surging waters and the mighty waters have covered you..." Also, likening Tyre to a sailing vessel the 27th chapter states: "Now you have been wrecked in the open sea, in the deep waters, and all your merchandise and your people have sunk with you."

I had always understood these passages regarding the prized city sinking into the sea to be symbolic. Now, I am not so sure. A few days ago the former president of Russia, Dmitry Medvedev, stated on his Telegraph channel that Britain is the eternal enemy of Russia. He got that right. DM went on to say, until this: “Dank island sinks into the abyss of the sea from a wave triggered by a cutting-edge Russian weapons system.”

As you may or may not know, Russia has developed a doomsday torpedo with a huge nuclear device that slams into coastal waters and creates a 1,000-foot Tsunami which salts the land with radioactivity even after the water dissipates. Jesus said something about "there will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and its agitation. People will become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken."

Sounds pretty scary to me.
As a jehovahs witness, I wouldn't worry about it... Besides, the watchtower says there won't be another World War, because, Jesus has returned, and the only thing left is for false religion to go down, and poof! Armageddon happens.. I'm thinking next Friday after lunch will be a good time for that, as I'll have free time..plus we've been told going through the great tribulation will be a piece of cake.. that wont even amount to a bump in the road..Not to mention, we'll be making movies at the new studio..probably won't even notice anything like Nuclear fall-out outside the protective bubble anyway .. Although, Philippines 3:20-21 has me wandering a little if Christ has returned..
" But our citizenshipa exists in the heavens,b and we are eagerly waiting for a savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,c 21 who will transform our humble body to be like his glorious bodyd by his great power that enables him to subject all things to himself"..
I guess I'll have to choose the WT seers view.. Besides, why should I doubt them?? Heck, they've never been wrong before, especially when it comes from Jesus's own mouth through the faithful slave... Just ask the Governing Body, they speak for Jesus... what could go wrong?
 
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Medi-tator

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As a jehovahs witness, I wouldn't worry about it... Besides, the watchtower says there won't be another World War, because, Jesus has returned, and the only thing left is for false religion to go down, and poof! Armageddon happens.. I'm thinking next Friday after lunch will be a good time for that, as I'll have free time..plus we've been told going through the great tribulation will be a piece of cake.. that wont even amount to a bump in the road..Not to mention, we'll be making movies at the new studio..probably won't even notice anything like Nuclear fall-out outside the protective bubble anyway .. Although, Philippines 3:20-21 has me wandering a little if Christ has returned..
" But our citizenshipa exists in the heavens,b and we are eagerly waiting for a savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,c 21 who will transform our humble body to be like his glorious bodyd by his great power that enables him to subject all things to himself"..
I guess I'll have to choose the WT seers view.. Besides, why should I doubt them?? Heck, they've never been wrong before, especially when it comes from Jesus's own mouth through the faithful slave... Just ask the Governing Body, they speak for Jesus... what could go wrong?
Go into your inner rooms and watch the denunciation of Jehovah pass by. Something like that. I have my Lazy Boy recliner (Bark-a-lounger) pointed right at the tv at all times so I don't miss the action. I am ready for the Big A to commence asap. WT's GovBod has me prepped pretty darn good! Like you said Revv, what could go wrong? What on earth could we possibly worry about, for heaven's sake?
 

Nomex

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Russia has developed a doomsday torpedo with a huge nuclear device that slams into coastal waters and creates a 1,000-foot Tsunami which salts the land with radioactivity even after the water dissipates.
Every once in a while I'll have a dream that really shakes me up. The other night I drempt a nuclear holocaust had begun. I saw the Mushroom clouds and saw the missiles coming in and knew to look away from the blast so as not to be blinded. All I could think of was getting back to my family to be with them! Not a pleasant dream. I woke up thinking I just hope I am with my family when this all happens, and thinking about the conversation I had with a Gilead "Missionary" 20 some odd years ago, I used to work with, who was in Haiti when the "big" earth quake hit, (that's another story), whom I told the Great Tribulation was going to be so severe "no flesh would be saved", hinting of course its not going to be what WT claims, and his answer was, "that is talking about the anointed."

LOL...so let's translate this. In order to justify 1914 doctrine, you bend over backwards to make the bible match your beliefs! Apparently, "no flesh" is translated 144,000 anointed ones.

This exercise in mental gymnastics on the part of WT and their "company men" I had begun to see through pretty early on I guess, although when this conversation happened I was about 30 years old.

So when I woke up after having this dream, I did not think, "Well none of this bad stuff that seems inevitable could happen", instead I thought about the scripture that says, "no flesh would be saved unless God cut the Great Tribulation short!" So my conclusion is this....I think a lot of us will have to be resurrected. And that fact gives me comfort, knowing I have a better understanding of what Satan's system in reality is going to bring!


It will be terrifying, but at least I will not be surprised!
 

Paula

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Moving up North seems more appealing now. IOW is only 2 hours from London. I might as well live near the Old Satanic Mills, near the birth of the Induatrial Revolution. Most now are museums, tearoom and galleries. Beautiful rolling green hills - Maybe Safer!!!🤔
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Here's a link. In the 26th chapter of Ezekiel Jehovah says of Tyre: "When I devastate you like the cities that are not inhabited, when I overwhelm you with the surging waters and the mighty waters have covered you..." Also, likening Tyre to a sailing vessel the 27th chapter states: "Now you have been wrecked in the open sea, in the deep waters, and all your merchandise and your people have sunk with you."

I had always understood these passages regarding the prized city sinking into the sea to be symbolic. Now, I am not so sure. A few days ago the former president of Russia, Dmitry Medvedev, stated on his Telegraph channel that Britain is the eternal enemy of Russia. He got that right. DM went on to say, until this: “Dank island sinks into the abyss of the sea from a wave triggered by a cutting-edge Russian weapons system.”

As you may or may not know, Russia has developed a doomsday torpedo with a huge nuclear device that slams into coastal waters and creates a 1,000-foot Tsunami which salts the land with radioactivity even after the water dissipates. Jesus said something about "there will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and its agitation. People will become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken."

Sounds pretty scary to me.
Trust you Robert to come up with some frightfulness of a war machine that no one else had thought possible. ☹️! It’s okay for you, living inland. The coast is only 500yards from me and to make matters worse, the water supplier dumps sewage into the sea periodically as well, so it’s not just radiation and salt with my fries, but sewage too.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Go into your inner rooms and watch the denunciation of Jehovah pass by. Something like that. I have my Lazy Boy recliner (Bark-a-lounger) pointed right at the tv at all times so I don't miss the action. I am ready for the Big A to commence asap. WT's GovBod has me prepped pretty darn good! Like you said Revv, what could go wrong? What on earth could we possibly worry about, for heaven's sake?
“What could go wrong”? - I could be washed up on your doorstep after the Russians nuke England and I get Robert’s 1000ft tidal wave washing me out of bed and dumping me in Hawaii. That would ruin your day!
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Moving up North seems more appealing now. IOW is only 2 hours from London. I might as well live near the Old Satanic Mills, near the birth of the Induatrial Revolution. Most now are museums, tearoom and galleries. Beautiful rolling green hills - Maybe Safer!!!🤔
I would stay in the IOW. If the Russians drop that, they will do so in the North Sea and take out Denmark and norway at the same time. You might get a slightly higher tide than usual though.
 

Watchman

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Trust you Robert to come up with some frightfulness of a war machine that no one else had thought possible. ☹️! It’s okay for you, living inland. The coast is only 500yards from me and to make matters worse, the water supplier dumps sewage into the sea periodically as well, so it’s not just radiation and salt with my fries, but sewage too.
It is unthinkable. I know. But the reality is, certain people and unseen creatures, who are in a position to actually create a radioactive Tsunami are thinking about it.
 

Revvzone

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It's quite a thing when a nation such as Russia has kept clearer heads than the insane war mongers pushing until someone gets smashed over the head with a nuclear weapon.. again, its surprising how cool the Russians are remaining under constant propaganda and blatant threats.. It's not my wish to see any country incinerated .. but there're some people that deserve it.. I say, bombs away!!!
 
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Watchman

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It's quite a thing when a nation such as Russia has kept clearer heads than the insane war mongers pushing until someone gets smashed over the head with a nuclear weapon.. again, its surprising how cool the Russians are remaining under constant propaganda and blatant threats.. It's not my wish to see any country incinerated .. but there're some people that deserve it.. I say, bombs away!!!
There is an old saying that applies: Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad. Mad, not as in angry, but madness, as in crazy, insane.
 

SusanB

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Chapter 15 has so much interesting information on the history of the British Empire. It is particularly interesting in how Robert King links it to the scriptures! I had learned some information in school about the British naval superiority in times past and as a young woman I read about the Opium Wars and was fascinated by it. So, when reading Chapter 15 I was already familiar with some of the history but this chapter brings out some great points that inescapably brings one to understand how the dual world power is addressed in scripture and is the 7th King as described in the book of Daniel.

Here is one abbreviated part that I find astonishing:

“In the 27th chapter of Ezekiel, the prophet is commanded to compose a dirge for the passing of Tyre. The opening words of the dirge say of Tyre: “You who dwell at the gateways of the sea, the merchant for the peoples of many islands.” The Phoenician coastal city of Tyre is recorded in history as dominating the Mediterranean Sea with her fleet of merchant ships, even plying the waters of the north and south Atlantic…….

But besides controlling crucial shipping lanes, sea-gates and other vital infrastructure, the Crown maintains an empire composed of dozens of islands scattered across the seven seas of the globe—Anguilla and Barbuda, Bermuda, the Falklands, British Virgin Islands, Jamaica, the Solomon Islands, Saint Helena and the Cayman Islands, to name a few. Of these, the Cayman Islands appear to be the most important—serving as a virtual modern day pirate cove for offshore drug money laundering, tax evasion and other illegal operations, which are carried out through the thousands of hedge funds registered there.

As of 2007, of the nearly 10,000 hedge funds in the world, over 8,000 are registered to the Queen’s Cayman Islands. For an island grouping with a total population of less than 60,000, that means that there is one hedge fund for every 7.5 people on the islands.
 

Watchman

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Looking back, as I have written here about Me and Lyndon LaRouche, I realize Jehovah began my education back around 1992 when I first subscribed to EIR and the American Almanac newspaper, now, unfortunately out of print. Since Jehovah's prophetic word speaks to the reality on the ground and not the web of lies spun by Satan and his earthly minions as to how the world works, there has to be some sliver of truth somewhere in the world as to what is really going on, because, as I say, that is what God concerns Himself with. So, after having been immersed in LaRouche's worldview for several years, which I liken to an advanced university course in history and economics, Jehovah then set me down and opened the Bible to the middle of Ezekiel. I am not joking. I just opened the Bible up to the chapters on Tyre and Egypt and started reading. It went on for hours per day and amounted to months of reading and re-reading all of the Hebrew prophecies. I relate to Ezekiel and his having been picked up the tuft of his hair and transported hither and yon. Everything clicked into place from the beginning but I kept reading because it was so overwhelming and I just needed to keep it in my mind.

Here is a brief clip from one of my earthly mentors. He was 88 in this webcast and did not read from a script. (BTW, when he mentions the Mediterranean powers he was referring to Tyre and much later Venice, which migrated to London)

 
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SusanB

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When I see tweets like this, I think of the quote below in Robert King’s book.


Quote from the book:

Besides controlling much of the earth’s raw materials, a handful of companies hold sway over the most important commodity of all—food. Unilever, for example, headquartered in London and Rotterdam, is the one of the oldest and largest food production companies in the world. The interlocking British, Dutch, and Swiss companies are the world’s leading merchants of food commodities and constitute a cartel by virtue of owning controlling interests in several giant food processing companies. And just as with metals and petroleum, food commodities contracts are a substantial part of the trading strategies of London’s hedge fund managers and brokers.

According to Isaiah’s prophecy against Sidon, the merchants of Tyre and Sidon enriched themselves off of the harvest of the nations. Isaiah 23:3 says: “Over many waters went the grain of Shihor, the harvest of the Nile, her revenue, bringing the profit of the nations.”

How true that has been for the traders located in modern Tyre as well. The British system has become the model for the present global financial system and is designed to extract the wealth of nations.”
 

evw

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When I see tweets like this, I think of the quote below in Robert King’s book.


Quote from the book:

Besides controlling much of the earth’s raw materials, a handful of companies hold sway over the most important commodity of all—food. Unilever, for example, headquartered in London and Rotterdam, is the one of the oldest and largest food production companies in the world. The interlocking British, Dutch, and Swiss companies are the world’s leading merchants of food commodities and constitute a cartel by virtue of owning controlling interests in several giant food processing companies. And just as with metals and petroleum, food commodities contracts are a substantial part of the trading strategies of London’s hedge fund managers and brokers.

According to Isaiah’s prophecy against Sidon, the merchants of Tyre and Sidon enriched themselves off of the harvest of the nations. Isaiah 23:3 says: “Over many waters went the grain of Shihor, the harvest of the Nile, her revenue, bringing the profit of the nations.”

How true that has been for the traders located in modern Tyre as well. The British system has become the model for the present global financial system and is designed to extract the wealth of nations.”
The picture in the tweet makes Roberts answer to my question "‘that have set the stage for famine even in the so-called developed nations.’ How?" on monday may 1st, even more clearer.
 

SusanB

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I really thought it was odd when I witnessed Canada, Australia and New Zealand become totalitarian systems seemingly overnight, because I had previously thought of them as democratic governments. Robert King’s book explains how they come under the hand or control of ”Tyre”. Here is an excerpt from Chapter 15:

And even as the formal Empire was dissolved, numerous nations have stayed under the Crown as members of the so-called British Commonwealth and other dependent territories. Up to the present time, 54 nations are part of the British Commonwealth. There are 16 nations that still have the Queen of England as their sovereign, although each now has a great measure of autonomy.

Besides the nations of the United Kingdom itself, the most prominent members of the Commonwealth are Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Through the Queen’s Privy Counsel, London’s political power is extended over all the nations in the royal realm.”
 

jay

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Go into your inner rooms and watch the denunciation of Jehovah pass by. Something like that. I have my Lazy Boy recliner (Bark-a-lounger) pointed right at the tv at all times so I don't miss the action. I am ready for the Big A to commence asap. WT's GovBod has me prepped pretty darn good! Like you said Revv, what could go wrong? What on earth could we possibly worry about, for heaven's sake?
Hey Medi-tator, you and several others on here are surfers. Now a 1000 ft wave would be a ride of a life time.
 
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