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The blind prophets may even try that line when the master comes to make the inspection. Don't think so somehow. They will probably go all out anti-Christ.
Chapter 6 - The Sign
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The blind prophets may even try that line when the master comes to make the inspection. Don't think so somehow. They will probably go all out anti-Christ.
SusanB
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Let me ask you because this is good practice for me.
1). What are you saying happened in 1914?
2). Assuming you will say that Jesus was enthroned in heaven, then my question is, “Did Jesus tell us to be on the watch for his enthronement?“. The way I read the bible, we are to stay awake and anticipate his PRESENCE. His enthronement is mentioned in the scriptures but not in relation to the sign that was given for his disciples to take note of. Of course, he must be enthroned to begin his rulership and seal the anointed but that isn’t what we are told to be on the watch for. Do bible word search for enthronement or throne or crown and compare with presence.
1914 was a magic trick, part of the operation of Satan. As a false angel of light, the Devil first promoted the chronology and then to make it seem like it was true he kicked off the First World War and Spanish Flu and persecuted the Bible Students. That is what Paul wrote about: "But the lawless one’s presence is by the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and wonders and every unrighteous deception."
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The W/T don't know what it don't know. They think the enthronement and the presence is one and the same. They have the "nation will rise against nation" etc, part right, but the wrong war. They're out by 100 years and counting. However comma while the enthronement and the presence, are strictly speaking two different events they are part of the same time period and closely connected.
Not sure when the Christ "comes alongside" the remnant", prior to the final witness or after?
SusanB
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Actually though JW’s acknowledge that Jesus will physically come to abyss Satan and so they are still waiting for Jesus to come in his Kingdom to wrap things up. In my estimation, they are trying to diminish his coming for the same reason that the High Priest wanted to diminish Jesus first presence on earth, they don’t want to give up their place/position and their “nation” of followers.
SusanB
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But you are correct that they apply the signs Jesus spoke of to his supposed enthronement and supposed rulership of the Kingdom because that makes them Kings now. And, by getting JW’s to pretend that they are already living in a spiritual paradise, then all they need to happen is just get rid of the wicked and no correction or tribulation for them.
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Not sure I want to be correct about their application. Although The sign Jesus spoke about that would ID his presence, also IDs his enthronement, ( or at least that he is enthroned ) since part of the sign Jesus said included "nation will rise against nation" etc. Since his enthronement comes before ww3 erupts. All the other fantasies they have about their false interpretations, I'm not interested in.