Charlie Kirk's Assassination

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Soul Sage said:
You can't win anyone over if you fail to see things from other people's perspectives. That includes photograph's and hand signs by the way. Lol. Think outside your own perspective.
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What exactly ARE other people's perspectives and what am I trying to "win them over" to? And what exactly is MY perspective? 🤔
 
I Like Pizza said:

This is crazy… watch before it’s deleted. Not only shows bullet BEFORE it hits Charlie, but also the most likely source of the bullet.
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I've watched a few videos about the shooting and come to the conclusion that like so many similar events... we'll probably never know the truth, so I decided not to bother trying to find out. I believe "they" are trying to divide us, which is why we have access to these videos. It's funny how many on the Left are conspiracy theorists now that they're out of power, and now the right is defending government because they believe the good guys are in control.

I was hoping all the lies about false flags, assassinations, chemtrails, the moon landing, fake aliens, depopulation... would come to light, but I don't care to spend too much time on them. I'll look, but I won't expend any emotional energy on them.
 
Carl said:
I've watched a few videos about the shooting and come to the conclusion that like so many similar events... we'll probably never know the truth, so I decided not to bother trying to find out. I believe "they" are trying to divide us, which is why we have access to these videos. It's funny how many on the Left are conspiracy theorists now that they're out of power, and now the right is defending government because they believe the good guys are in control.

I was hoping all the lies about false flags, assassinations, chemtrails, the moon landing, fake aliens, depopulation... would come to light, but I don't care to spend too much time on them. I'll look, but I won't expend any emotional energy on them.
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We don't need to know the truth about individual events going on, we only need to know that the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one, not to put our trust in ANY humans, and that Jehovah is standing right in front of us and holding our hand 😍
 
Watchman said:
The recent Charlie Kirk upload is going mini-viral. I re-posted it on X just to stir things up a bit ;)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1967998668667228198
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Thank you for this reminder Robert, with everything going on in the world so fast and furious as they would say it's easy to lose sight of Jehovah's incoming Kingdom by getting caught up in the politics of the left and the right.
 
Carl said:
I've watched a few videos about the shooting and come to the conclusion that like so many similar events... we'll probably never know the truth, so I decided not to bother trying to find out. I believe "they" are trying to divide us, which is why we have access to these videos. It's funny how many on the Left are conspiracy theorists now that they're out of power, and now the right is defending government because they believe the good guys are in control.

I was hoping all the lies about false flags, assassinations, chemtrails, the moon landing, fake aliens, depopulation... would come to light, but I don't care to spend too much time on them. I'll look, but I won't expend any emotional energy on them.
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Satan the Devil is quite clever just take another look on how he deceived Eve.

.3 Now the serpent+ proved to be the most cautious+ of all the wild beasts of the field that Jehovah God had made.+ So it began to say to the woman:+ “Is it really so that God said YOU must not eat from every tree of the garden?”+ At this the woman said to the serpent: “Of the fruit of the trees* of the garden we may eat.+ But as for [eating] of the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden,+ God has said, ‘YOU must not eat from it, no, YOU must not touch it that YOU do not die.’”+ At this the serpent said to the woman: “YOU positively will not die.*+ For God knows that in the very day of YOUR eating from it YOUR eyes are bound to be opened and YOU are bound to be like God,* KNOWING good and bad.”+ Consequently the woman saw that the tree was good for food and that it was something to be longed for to the eyes, yes, the tree was desirable to look upon.*+ So she began taking of its fruit and eating it. Afterward she gave some also to her husband* when with her and he began eating it. Read more> https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/bi12/books/genesis/3/
 
Watchman said:
The recent Charlie Kirk upload is going mini-viral. I re-posted it on X just to stir things up a bit ;)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1967998668667228198
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The most powerful statement in this video is when you STOP and ask
“Why would you want to do that… Why would you want to make Satans world a better place?” If you had not stopped I think that statement would have gone over the listeners head.
 
Melinda Riling said:
The most powerful statement in this video is when you STOP and ask
“Why would you want to do that… Why would you want to make Satans world a better place?” If you had not stopped I think that statement would have gone over the listeners head.
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Satan has been busy building his own foundation with the left and right and we know its conclusion is an 8th tyrannical King promoted by Satan the devil and when the time comes for the mark of the wild beast one should keep in mind who the true Cornerstone / foundation is.

For no man can lay any other foundation+ [and this includes Satan the devil] than what is laid, which is Jesus Christ.1 Corinthians 3:11

Isaiah 28:16​

therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “Here I am laying* as a foundation in Ziona a stone,*b a tried stone,c the precious cornerd of a sure foundation.*e No one exercising faith will get panicky.*f

1 Peter 2:6​

For it is contained in Scripture: “Look! I am laying in Zion a stone, chosen, a foundation cornerstone, precious; and no one exercising faith in it will by any means come to disappointment.”*a
 
seeks2kno said:
a TRUE christian is an ambassador of a coming Kingdom, ambassadors are not allowed to participate in governmental affairs , otherwise one would lose their status among the Kingdom they represent.
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This is the same reasoning point I tried to explain to my family who are all big Trump supporters, to no avail of course. They just don't get it, of course. I've never even heard a fellow JW use that analogy before, good for you! 2 Corinthians 5:20.
 
Shiloh said:
This is the same reasoning point I tried to explain to my family who are all big Trump supporters, to no avail of course. They just don't get it, of course. I've never even heard a fellow JW use that analogy before, good for you! 2 Corinthians 5:20.
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I gotta let you know, i happened to hear that analogy from David C pacc from the Restored Church of God. he has some interesting analogies and i saved this one.
 
seeks2kno said:
Regardless, should a man like him wake up in paradise and given a chance to grow into perfection and choose Jehovah, I would be willing to believe a possibility
His heart will be judged in the end, not his book-smarts.
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Charlie won't be waking up in a paradise, although he will wake up in a 1000 yr Satan/influenced free environment. but he will be waking up. There will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous. Jehovah will decide which side each resurrected one will be, which will determine if their resurrection will be "...to life..."or "...to judgement..." EDIT it is quite on the cards that Charlie will be one of those to whom Jesus will say "...get away from me, I never knew you..." Going by the clips about Charlie, since his murder, he did not appear to be a worshiper of Jehovah.

And no Jesus did not lie to the evil doer. ( In response to Carl, dip stick!!! ) The evil doers confirming his faith in Jesus guaranteed him a place in paradise, but that doesn't mean he will wake up in paradise either. Jesus said "...You will be with me in paradise..." Jesus said no such thing to us or Charlie.
 
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I Like Pizza said:

This is crazy… watch before it’s deleted. Not only shows bullet BEFORE it hits Charlie, but also the most likely source of the bullet.
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So the gush or blood at the carotid artery was the exit wound. Some have said the entry was from the front. This story sounds plausible.
 
Seventy6 said:
Charlie won't be waking up in a paradise, although he will wake up in a 1000 yr Satan/influenced free environment. but he will be waking up. There will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous. Jehovah will decide which side each resurrected one will be, which will determine if their resurrection will be "...to life..."or "...to judgement..."
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So, Jesus was lying to the thief next to him?

Luke 23:43 "And he said to him: “Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise.”
 
Carl said:
So, Jesus was lying to the thief next to him?

Luke 23:43 "And he said to him: “Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise.”
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Apparently there's going to be two "sides". Is it gonna be cordoned off with a giant fortified electric fence complete with guard towers (Watchtowers) and guards with rifles? I guess I missed that scripture!
 
Nomex said:
It's strange because what he said has nothing to do with any WT teaching I know of!
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You’re right. I wasn’t referring to his “new light,” but rather the confidence in which he said it. I also felt it’s insulting to Charlie Kirk to say he didn’t have faith in Jesus… like REALLY?

I’ve been around people from most religions… JWs are the most judgmental, self righteous of them all by far. I blame the top-down, fear based WT indoctrination, not the individual. Some here still suffer from it a little bit.
 
Proverbs 14 v 15 said:
I struggle to expect much from ANY one these days, better to just stick close to Jehovah and Jesus , at least they're upfront and totally honest and not ducking and diving and wheeling and dealing behind our backs..
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Seventy6 said:
Charlie won't be waking up in a paradise, although he will wake up in a 1000 yr Satan/influenced free environment. but he will be waking up. There will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous. Jehovah will decide which side each resurrected one will be, which will determine if their resurrection will be "...to life..."or "...to judgement..." EDIT it is quite on the cards that Charlie will be one of those to whom Jesus will say "...get away from me, I never knew you..." Going by the clips about Charlie, since his murder, he did not appear to be a worshiper of Jehovah.

And no Jesus did not lie to the evil doer. ( In response to Carl, dip stick!!! ) The evil doers confirming his faith in Jesus guaranteed him a place in paradise, but that doesn't mean he will wake up in paradise either. Jesus said "...You will be with me in paradise..." Jesus said no such thing to us or Charlie.
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To refer to brother Carl or anyone on the forum as a dipstick ,regardless of their views, is beyond the pale brother.
Good decorum should be the order of the day.
 
Carl said:
You’re right. I wasn’t referring to his “new light,” but rather the confidence in which he said it. I also felt it’s insulting to Charlie Kirk to say he didn’t have faith in Jesus… like REALLY?

I’ve been around people from most religions… JWs are the most judgmental, self righteous of them all by far. I blame the top-down, fear based WT indoctrination, not the individual. Some here still suffer from it a little bit.
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Well, I don't know how things are in the US, but here in Colombia the worst are many evangelicals. They give me chills. 😣
 
Proverbs 14 v 15 said:
And what about "the wages sin pays is death"? 👍
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Yeah but a "ressurection to judgement" means, you didn't quite pay all " the wages." " and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgement and incarceration for a thousand years, then maybe, just maybe, you'll be let out into Paradise. But, like Moses, we'll give you a nice view of Paradise from your cell while you ponder the things you did in your first life."

It's a kind of Purgatory for all the non-JW's and Jews who are ressurected. "No Paradise for YOU." We will have "Paradise Nazi's" like the Seinfeld "Soup Nazi" episode.
 
Nomex said:
Yeah but a "ressurection to judgement" means, you didn't quite pay all " the wages." " and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgement and incarceration for a thousand years, then maybe, just maybe, you'll be let out into Paradise. But, like Moses, we'll give you a nice view of Paradise from your cell while you ponder the things you did in your first life."

It's a kind of Purgatory for all the non-JW's and Jews who are ressurected. "No Paradise for YOU." We will have "Paradise Nazi's" like the Seinfeld "Soup Nazi" episode.
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That’s exactly what I was calling his new light. He somehow believes in purgatory now. 😂 And feels qualified to judge Charlie.
 
Seventy6 said:
Charlie won't be waking up in a paradise, although he will wake up in a 1000 yr Satan/influenced free environment. but he will be waking up. There will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous. Jehovah will decide which side each resurrected one will be, which will determine if their resurrection will be "...to life..."or "...to judgement..." EDIT it is quite on the cards that Charlie will be one of those to whom Jesus will say "...get away from me, I never knew you..." Going by the clips about Charlie, since his murder, he did not appear to be a worshiper of Jehovah.

And no Jesus did not lie to the evil doer. ( In response to Carl, dip stick!!! ) The evil doers confirming his faith in Jesus guaranteed him a place in paradise, but that doesn't mean he will wake up in paradise either. Jesus said "...You will be with me in paradise..." Jesus said no such thing to us or Charlie.
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a world without Satan's influence is paradise in my book.
 
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