"CIM adds film studio to Watchtower site Former Jehovah’s Witnesses HQ to include 90K sf production facilitity"

Shekinah

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What's with all the movie studios? Bethel in London was sold to the company that makes Netflix films, now the old dumbo property that was owned by Watchtower is to become a film studio and the Watchtower it's self is now building Ramapo which will produce films too🤔
"CIM adds film studio to Watchtower site
Former Jehovah’s Witnesses HQ to include 90K sf production facilitity"

 

Sundial

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People are concerned with the threat of losing the internet to world govt. control. It would be very funny if the WT got stuck with all those filming investments when we return to magazines...or little pieces of paper hidden in our shoes with Bible texts.
 

Shekinah

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I found something very interesting in what this guy Stan had to say. He mentions about the coming alien deception just at the point of nuclear war,
they'll make out that they have come to help us and will have set up some form of technology that will show the live footage of Christs crucification to prove that he is an ascended master. These elite have been working with the demons believing that they are ascended masters for decades, believing they're on various planes, rising to God like status it's supposedly the last stage of their evolution Satan has pulled the wool over their eyes too.
I was wondering could these movie facilities be part of the technology needed that they'll use to pull off this mass deception, some form of holographics perhaps?
The Bible says
Luke 21:26
People will become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
 
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Liv4ever

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People are concerned with the threat of losing the internet to world govt. control. It would be very funny if the WT got stuck with all those filming investments when we return to magazines...or little pieces of paper hidden in our shoes with Bible texts.
Brother ATM3 (Anthony Morris) said the facilities may be used to house newly resurrected ones.personally I look forward to a world where no one watches movies anymore but instead go outside and see the creation in all it's glory without chemtrails
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Brother ATM3 (Anthony Morris) said the facilities may be used to house newly resurrected ones.personally I look forward to a world where no one watches movies anymore but instead go outside and see the creation in all it's glory without chemtrails
That is simple rhetoric from the GB. The resurrected one’s will outnumber any buildings capacity to house them. We do not even know what conditions will be like at the resurrection either. The statement was a simple “justification’ to show “care” by the GB in the same manner that they paint all that they do with Jehovah‘s approval. Why should they build now upon the sands of the unknown times we live in, to provide for what may happen in the vicinity of the building untold years from now and on the verge of uncertainty and war, when they provide no homes for the brothers they make homeless now by throwing them out of bethel, selling watcher “owned” facilities in which they live, and in separating families through disfellowshipping? Where is the morality in building facilities for film making when there are eight million witnesses willing to go door to door personally as instructed by the bible? The instruction was to go to homes - personally. There was a reason for that. Reasoning from the scriptures, one to one. A demonstration of faith, care, instruction, argument, reasoning, love, diligence, expression and altruism. We, as individuals under command, not the watchtower, plant the seed, others water it, Jehovah makes it grow. Further, if brother Morris has been dismissed, and his contributions in years of truthful obedience to watchtower erased and condemned, of what justification then was his statement on the use of the building? It clearly does not have Jehovah’s blessing or approval however it is viewed.
 
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Liv4ever

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That is simple rhetoric from the GB. The resurrected one’s will outnumber any buildings capacity to house them. We do not even know what conditions will be like at the resurrection either. The statement was a simple “justification’ to show “care” by the GB in the same manner that they paint all that they do with Jehovah‘s approval. Why should they build now upon the sands of the unknown times we live in, to provide for what may happen in the vicinity of the building untold years from now and on the verge of uncertainty and war, when they provide no homes for the brothers they make homeless now by throwing them out of bethel, selling watcher “owned” facilities in which they live, and in separating families through disfellowshipping? Where is the morality in building facilities for film making when there are eight million witnesses willing to go door to door personally as instructed by the bible? The instruction was to go to homes - personally. There was a reason for that. Reasoning from the scriptures, one to one. A demonstration of faith, care, instruction, argument, reasoning, love, diligence, expression and altruism. We, as individuals under command, not the watchtower, plant the seed, others water it, Jehovah makes it grow. Further, if brother Morris has been dismissed, and his contributions in years of truthful obedience to watchtower erased and condemned, of what justification then was his statement on the use of the building? It clearly does not have Jehovah’s blessing or approval however it is viewed.
True they will outnumber but I mean on the initial phase and on a temporary basis. Then it can be documented, their loved ones notified, invited and reunited. From there returned to their permanent address. In this way things can proceed in an orderly fashion
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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True they will outnumber but I mean on the initial phase and on a temporary basis. Then it can be documented, their loved ones notified, invited and reunited. From there returned to their permanent address. In this way things can proceed in an orderly fashion
I had no idea that the resurrected will need to be documented and relatives informed. Will there still be a postal service to distant parts of the world? If the GB are all in heaven, who will be documenting these things? The sister who was sent to work in the laundry? The brother who put out the bins? Where will the forms be printed and from what, clay? Or will the brothers have to make their own paper? Families are self organising too, so there is no need for administration or records. The Truth will be worldwide and under the direction of Christ for the first 1,000 years and man was made to cooperate with each other to the common good. Can any man better Christ in organisation? There may be no permanent address either as people will govern their own behaviour via judgement from Christ, not men. The last 6,000 years has been about men and their “government”. There will be no need for and no governance from men, because men and women will be perfect in due time. Our lives will be by peaceful negotiation with each other under Jehovah. How can man, unable even to govern himself and his own desires, even if perfect, ever hope to ”organise” the resurrected ones and document them, and for what reason? How is man to set the world straight and heal the earth he stands on, or to feed and clothe others and meet all their needs and even presume or have the means to document them, inform their families and house them? From where and from what will all the bricks and stone be made or gathered. Do you really not question what watchtower says?
 

Pearlykay

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The GB, ELDERS and watchtower make it quite clear not to ask questions just to wait and do as we are told. It has taken me decades to realise that we must be obedient and wait for the watchtower tells us is going to happen. I have questioned if we are going to travel we will need automobiles, cruise ships, aircraft. So then we will need mechanics, they will have to get paid then they will have to open company’s so isn’t it going to end up the same. We will have rich and poor again.
 
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Liv4ever

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the resurrected will need to be documented
The resurrection will need to be documented
Where will the forms be printed and from what, clay?
No one will say, 'Know Jehovah ', because everyone will know Jehovah (Isaiah)

There may be no permanent address either
I'm with you on that... give me a teepee and I'm good to go...I just need to figure out how to get my wife to crawl in there with me.

you really not question what watchtower says?
Obviously or I wouldn't be here...like the Beroeans who were more noble minded because they carefully examined the scriptures daily to see if these things were so. I would venture to say that a good deal of the rank and file are content to say ' whatever the wt says, that is what I think as well.' So indeed this is a time of sifting. However, there is a danger of automatically rejecting everything from the wt. I rather like the latest video from Brother Splane . It shows some very studious insight.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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The resurrection will need to be documented

No one will say, 'Know Jehovah ', because everyone will know Jehovah (Isaiah)


I'm with you on that... give me a teepee and I'm good to go...I just need to figure out how to get my wife to crawl in there with me.


Obviously or I wouldn't be here...like the Beroeans who were more noble minded because they carefully examined the scriptures daily to see if these things were so. I would venture to say that a good deal of the rank and file are content to say ' whatever the wt says, that is what I think as well.' So indeed this is a time of sifting. However, there is a danger of automatically rejecting everything from the wt. I rather like the latest video from Brother Splane . It shows some very studious insight.
I can equate with dismissing the watchtower out of hand I have to admit. For me, though suffering all the imperfections of mankind, I learnt my lesson at the feet of watchtower. That lesson being that a little leven ferments the whole lump. When Jesus was speaking with Satan, Satan offered him all the kingdoms of the earth in return for just one act of worship. When watchtower‘s governing body offer the sheep the kingdom of Jehovah and Christ, they demand one act of worship in that they acknowledge that the GB are the ones appointed by Jehovah to lead them to it. If one does not accept that - and it is written into the oath of allegiance for baptism, then one is deemed to have rejected the kingdom of Jehovah. Likewise, accepting the mark of the beast is an irredeemable sin against the Holy Spirit. Inserting the occasional truth between the torrent of lies has nothing to offer by way of redemption if it is no more than a salve to cover the evil that presents it. It is born of deceit. A lure for the unwary.……”They are not all bad“. And it does no good to those seeking truth if they cannot differentiate between the lie and truth either - does it! We can safely leave that judgement to Jehovah. I stood where you are many years ago. Even my dedicated sister still thinks they are “the channel”, but men trying to do their best. No one needs to lie though. No one needs to endanger children, steal money, split families, sell the flock for vaccination money, sell their places of worship. I prefer to be with like minded ones seeking Jehovah, rather than with those who are told that they have found Him before the bride has arrived even.
 
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Liv4ever

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accepting the mark of the beast is an irredeemable sin against the Holy Spirit.
Wrong. The Bible says that no one can buy or sell (as in 'No One...not you, me or anyone ) ... Everyone that buys or sells does not commit the unforgivable sin, not even by a long shot

t. No one needs to lie though. No one needs to endanger children, steal money, split families, sell the flock for vaccination money, sell their places of worship.
No one lied that I know of.

"Endanger children" assuming you mean the jabberwocky, you have to prove malice of forethought and you can't. Retract that

"Steal money" ...do you mean like the apostle that Jesus chose, Judas Iscariot? Just because someone in the org may be stealing, is no reason to throw the baby out with the bath wash. When Judas got caught did the brotherhood implode? Duh...

"Split families" - Jesus said this would happen, blame him. Blood is thicker than water but not thicker than truth. But I do agree that the wt needs to clarify matters on shunning relatives. I think this is in process because the 2 videos in the convention were deleted.

"Sell the flock for vaccination money" - wrong. You can't know this. No one sold me. I'm in the flock. I see what you're saying and I view it as a very serious accusation with more than a germ of truth to it, and that's why I came here. I think enough is known at this point to launch an investigation.

"Sell their places of worship"- that's a lot to unpack there...suffice to say, I can't confirm or deny any such allegations. In an org with 9 million strong , no doubt there will be shenanigans. But as a whole I think you're barking up the wrong tree on this one.
 

evw

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I had no idea that the resurrected will need to be documented and relatives informed. Will there still be a postal service to distant parts of the world? If the GB are all in heaven, who will be documenting these things? The sister who was sent to work in the laundry? The brother who put out the bins? Where will the forms be printed and from what, clay? Or will the brothers have to make their own paper? Families are self organising too, so there is no need for administration or records. The Truth will be worldwide and under the direction of Christ for the first 1,000 years and man was made to cooperate with each other to the common good. Can any man better Christ in organisation? There may be no permanent address either as people will govern their own behaviour via judgement from Christ, not men. The last 6,000 years has been about men and their “government”. There will be no need for and no governance from men, because men and women will be perfect in due time. Our lives will be by peaceful negotiation with each other under Jehovah. How can man, unable even to govern himself and his own desires, even if perfect, ever hope to ”organise” the resurrected ones and document them, and for what reason? How is man to set the world straight and heal the earth he stands on, or to feed and clothe others and meet all their needs and even presume or have the means to document them, inform their families and house them? From where and from what will all the bricks and stone be made or gathered. Do you really not question what watchtower says?
AMEN!
 

Niobium

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I had no idea that the resurrected will need to be documented and relatives informed. Will there still be a postal service to distant parts of the world? If the GB are all in heaven, who will be documenting these things? The sister who was sent to work in the laundry? The brother who put out the bins? Where will the forms be printed and from what, clay? Or will the brothers have to make their own paper? Families are self organising too, so there is no need for administration or records. The Truth will be worldwide and under the direction of Christ for the first 1,000 years and man was made to cooperate with each other to the common good. Can any man better Christ in organisation? There may be no permanent address either as people will govern their own behaviour via judgement from Christ, not men. The last 6,000 years has been about men and their “government”. There will be no need for and no governance from men, because men and women will be perfect in due time. Our lives will be by peaceful negotiation with each other under Jehovah. How can man, unable even to govern himself and his own desires, even if perfect, ever hope to ”organise” the resurrected ones and document them, and for what reason? How is man to set the world straight and heal the earth he stands on, or to feed and clothe others and meet all their needs and even presume or have the means to document them, inform their families and house them? From where and from what will all the bricks and stone be made or gathered. Do you really not question what watchtower says?
Indeed. It is Jehovah through Jesus who will be directing the resurrection, not men. Jehovah arranged the exodus from Egypt by using Moses as a leader. Didn't Moses picture Jesus? I'm sure that as "all things will be made new" so the way that life is "organised" in the New World will be quite different to what we can imagine. Even miraculous.
As you said
There will be no need for and no governance from men
 
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