Disclosure Day

I believe that IF Jehovah had created other humans or similar in other galaxies countless times before us, the Angels and Satan himself would have already exposed themselves by then
Exactly, and the same thing that happened in planet earth's garden of eden would surely have happened in another garden, far, far away.. and what was the outcome? 🤔 Obviously it didn't get sorted out cos it all happened again on earth 🙄😵‍💫
 
Well said Barnaby!

the angels were astonished upon seeing the first man breathing... I say that because the general consensus within the bible is that the Angelic host watch the creation of humanity with intense wonder and awe we see this in Job 38 . We see the heavenly beings celebrating.

This , at least to me ALONG with the fact that Satan KEPT NAGGING Jehovah to test job was his very first opportunity. In the context it truly does look like Satan was seeing for the first time biological sentient life and jumped on the opportunity.
I know I cannot pull a TON of scriptures for this deduction, but its always a feeling i had when i read. Satan seemed REEEEEALLY interested in Humans.....

And the fallen angels..for some Strange reason were so infatuated with humans, they came down and made mega babies to live a biological experience. Perhaps THIS was their first time to do so because never before had biological life been created and there was nothing previously for them to tinker with.
I believe that IF Jehovah had created other humans or similar in other galaxies countless times before us, the Angels and Satan himself would have already exposed themselves by then.

For people believing Aliens are visiting us and also CLAIM to be christian, I ask them if the angels grow old and die or live forever.

just my thoughts
I feel that if there were other civilizations created by Jehovah, they would not be immune from the points of principle raised by Satan. The challenge referred to the entire creation of mankind, not just those alive at the time. These principles would apply then to all life to which choice was given. Thus the challenge was to Jehovah’s sovereignty. The patent holder so to speak.

One would also be compelled to ask the question whether any other perfect creation of Jehovah would wish to associate with a unique creation that chose not to follow the Creators designated purpose. The implications don’t bear thinking about.

One point Robert raised some time back was that the anointed being given “life in themselves” may also come with the ability to create. That is foreseeable because the whole issue is about sharing life for its enjoyment. Just as we have joy in creation, why should this not be possible for those given such potential to be allowed to use it? The principles of Jehovah cannot be surpassed but if life in itself can be shared, so too can its standards in completion. A gift like no other.

The other factor about satan’s move to take Jehovah’s glory for himself, was that the challenge must be applied before pro-creation, otherwise surely the principle and rebuttal could have been answered by another human born in perfection?
 

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" I'm almost positive that a TV personality suddenly speaking an alien language would be seen as a stroke or drug use."

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"was that right after she had her COVID shot?"

hahaha
Over in England TV personalities already speak in an alien language. You name it, they speak it. No one yet has been able to translate Glaswegian. Welsh is another alien language - no need for vocal cords, just half a pint of phlegm per sentence but the most common alien language has to be politicians speaking in tongues. Most of the politicians here are very adept at that.
 
Yeh but honestly, him saying that watching his film will make Christians doubt their faith is nearly as bad as when the GB keep saying similar things to us.. "don't watch so called apostate videos cos it'll make you lose your faith"
Lose our faith in WHAT exactly? We'll never know cos they'll never tell us 🙄
Lose your faith in the governing body's direction.
 
Over in England TV personalities already speak in an alien language. You name it, they speak it. No one yet has been able to translate Glaswegian. Welsh is another alien language - no need for vocal cords, just half a pint of phlegm per sentence but the most common alien language has to be politicians speaking in tongues. Most of the politicians here are very adept at that.
I know exactly what you mean, the times I listen and try hard to understand what they're saying, I don't mean I can't understand the individual words, I can, it's when they put several together in a sentence and then several sentences into a paragraph! It's probably done that way on purpose Barney, to try and dumb us down, they want us to think we're thick, trouble is, it doesn't work on certain people, 2 plus 2 will never equal 5, but I daresay they'll keep on trying to make us believe nonsense, afterall, the Watchtower does and has been quite successful ☺️
 
Lose your faith in the governing body's direction.
But what if one never had faith in the GB's direction in the first place? I was never taught to have faith in their direction, only to build my faith in Jehovah and his word. It wasn't until the 2020 nonsense began that I realised I had completely missed out that particular step along my travels and all of a sudden I saw everyone around me bowing down to the GB and I wasn't. It was a very embarrassing moment too because I had to quickly pull the curtains shut on it all so my hubby couldn't see what I all of a sudden was seeing 😱
 
But what if one never had faith in the GB's direction in the first place? I was never taught to have faith in their direction, only to build my faith in Jehovah and his word. It wasn't until the 2020 nonsense began that I realised I had completely missed out that particular step along my travels and all of a sudden I saw everyone around me bowing down to the GB and I wasn't. It was a very embarrassing moment too because I had to quickly pull the curtains shut on it all so my hubby couldn't see what I all of a sudden was seeing 😱
You're one of the fortunate ones. You didn't need them to begin with.
 
There is an old saying that "seeing is believing." I take that to mean that if you see something with your own two eyes, then it has to be real. Except that ain't true. Long before deep fakes, there had been magic. Demons have the power to make you see things that appear to be real. Take the example of the wandering star that led the Persian magi to the infant Jesus. Real stars do not stop and start and move this way and then change course, but the "star" that led the magi to Herod did. If a Navy pilot testifies that he saw a UFO, no doubt he did. If the demons can conjure a wandering star, surely that could make a strange light appear or a saucer-shaped craft.

Jehovah’s miracles were never without purpose nor to titillate humans. They were to build up faith or accomplish Jehovah’s purpose, to fulfill scripture or to execute judgements. So I always ask, what would the purpose be?
 
Another 'Disclosure Day' under discussion is the revealing of London and it's role in man's affairs particularly it's identity as KOTN
Barbara Boyd really helps us in understanding the Globalist/Sovereigntist divide we have come to know as Kings North and South thanks to Jehovah's Watchman. She explains the continuing battle America has had with Great Britain from the revolution of 1776 through to the war in 1812 and explains the persistance of London's interference trying to divide America resulting in the civil war of 1861/65
A good rounding of our education concerning this incredible prophetic development in our time. What a great privilege not only to be alive in these times but to be blessed with such foresight! Warning too much listening to Barbara will result in a New Yoik accent!
 
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Everything is inescapably pointing towards world war with KOTN pressing the reset button: In Belfast there is constant rioting over the beheading of a person by an immigrant! The position there is escalating despite London's efforts to quell it. Tommy Robinson has been blamed for fanning the flames and when he returned from Russia where he had meetings with Elon Musk's dad which failed to enamour the gov't he ended up being charged with terrorism again. The last time his legal fees were covered by Elon. But the interesting point Tommy made was that' Russia was not the enemy of Britain that lie has long since died'. Tommy also said 'Britain has become a laughing stock': Certainly a most welcome day of disclosure! London is losing all it's clothes of anonimity! They will be forced to blow up the chess board. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...B&cvid=6a2ebff0083848018c16eb499f7d248d&ei=24
 
The last minute and a half, explains exactly how this deception will fit in the last days.

The message is “listen”?!!! I would have assumed, given the size of the aliens eyes, that it was “see”. (AND…..I was right about the long fingers!!). I see that after six thousand years, the message that humanity comes up with is my old Masonic school motto. “Audi, Vidi Tace.” “ Hear, see and be silent.” It Proves one thing for sure, Robert was right about the masons! That’s some finale for a Hollywood film - the masons and the Israelites making a film about the end of the world. Prophetic or what?!!! 🤣🤣 Jehovah surely has a cynical sense of humour!
 
/shaking my head

Source: https://www.wilx.com/2026/06/13/ufo...hat-existence-alien-life-might-mean-religion/


As UFOs go mainstream, the jury is out on what the existence of alien life might mean for religion​


LOS ANGELES (AP) — In “Disclosure Day,” out Friday, Steven Spielberg is once again inviting audiences to ponder the existence of extraterrestrial life — and the implications it would have for religion on Earth.

But Spielberg is hardly the only one making headlines of late about UFOs and the possibility of life on other planets.

What was once considered fringe or conspiratorial has, in recent months, popped up everywhere from the White House to the Catholic Church, as public fascination with unidentified anomalous phenomena — or UAPs, as the government calls them — becomes more mainstream.

The Pentagon in May made public large swaths of UFO files with very little context, leaving curious sleuths to piece together their own interpretations. The dump came just weeks after former President Barack Obama set off a media frenzy for stating unambiguously in an interview that aliens are real, though he later tempered that take.

“Statistically, the universe is so vast that the odds are good there’s life out there,” the former president, who made a surprise visit to the “Disclosure Day” set, posted on social media. “I saw no evidence during my presidency that extraterrestrials have made contact with us. Really!”

Some religious adherents, as well as some nonbelievers, maintain that the existence of life on other planets might undermine many faiths because it would complicate assertions that humans are unique. But others argue the opposite.

“Belief in UFOs is really one of the best things that’s happened to religion in a long time,” said Diana Walsh Pasulka, a religion scholar at the University of North Carolina Wilmington. “It’s a blow to the secular, materialist worldview.”

An intersection of aliens, demons and Catholics​

Even if broad interest in UAPs bolsters the case for an enchanted universe, some believers in religions such as Christianity think they are something to be wary of.

“I don’t think they’re aliens. I think they’re demons,” Vice President JD Vance, a Catholic convert, said in a recent podcast interview.

That sentiment was echoed by Monsignor Stephen Rossetti, formerly an exorcist with the Archdiocese of Washington. He was removed last week by the archbishop, who said statements by Rossetti “gravely undermine” Catholic teaching on demons and the devil.

“It’s my personal belief that probably many, if not most, of these UFO sightings are in fact demons,” Rossetti said in a May 29 video posted on his Facebook page. “Aliens, if there are aliens, don’t possess people.”

Christopher Baglow, who heads a science and religion initiative at the University of Notre Dame, was surprised by the firing, given that Rosetti made clear in the video he was expressing his own opinion. Baglow speculated that there may be other factors behind the decision.

“I ask forgiveness for any ways that I have not been faithful to the teachings of the Church’s Magisterium,” Rosetti said in a statement online.

Despite the assertions by Vance and Rossetti about demons, Baglow maintains the Catholic Church has long been open to the possibility of extraterrestrial life.

“Theologians have been speculating about this for centuries and the church has never ever taught one way or the other,” he said.

While meeting with astronomy students last year at the Vatican, Pope Leo XIV, spoke about the “ancient light of distant galaxies” and the “mysterious joy” provoked by the study of outer space. Some interpreted these remarks as tacit speculation about the possibility of life on other planets.

Extraterrestrials, old and new​

In one sense, the idea of otherworldly beings coming to Earth can be traced back millennia.

“People would call it the plurality of worlds. So even back in the time of Socrates and Aristotle, there were Greek philosophers who talked about beings on other planets and other stars,” Walsh Pasulka said.

But it wasn’t until after 1945 that modern conceptions of UFOs began to develop, according to Jeffrey Kripal, a historian of religions at Rice University. “The flying saucer and the alien and the UFO — it’s definitely a Cold War invasion narrative,” he said.

That narrative explains why UAPs are often perceived as hostile to humans. But it’s also evolved over time and led to the formation of some religions — like Scientology, which counts many a Hollywood celebrity among its adherents — that see extraterrestrials as good or even part of a divine plan. Some adherents to the Nation of Islam, for example, believe that its founder will inaugurate an apocalyptic return to Earth on a spaceship.

The International Raëlian Movement, also known as Raëlism, is a UFO religion that was founded in France in the 1970s. It is still practiced today, with its strongest followings in parts of Asia, Africa and Canada, according to Susan Palmer, a sociologist who studies new religious movements at Concordia University in Montreal.

Its founder, Raël, claims he is a direct descendant of Yahweh, whom Raël visited on the planet of Elohim in 1975. Raëlism claims the Buddha, Jesus and Muhammad are all hybrids of humans and extraterrestrials, as well as Raël’s half brothers.

Of the groups she has studied, Palmer argued Raëlism is the most sympathetic toward UFOs. “They’re not interested in extraterrestrial wars,” she said.

But some think that sentiment might be growing.

Kripal, who heads Rice’s archival collection of reported paranormal experiences called the Center for the Impossible, perceives an increasing openness to these kinds of conversations about the existence of UFOs — and the possibility that they are not hostile.

“People are reporting these experiences or these encounters with entities and they’re religious through and through,” he said. “My colleagues in the academy, they’re really starting to listen in a different way.”
 
But it wasn’t until after 1945 that modern conceptions of UFOs began to develop
And bits of "dinosaurs" didn't start being "discovered" until the mid 1800's either, just in time for the "theory of evolution" to start being promoted! Coincidences, coincidences, everywhere!! Oh, and just like the "aliens" are locked away in a cupboard somewhere, with only certain people allowed to see them, so too with the bits of "dinosaurs" locked away in a different cupboard somewhere with only certain people allowed to see them. It's very painful being awake to all the nonsense in the world, and inside Jah's org 🥹
 
And bits of "dinosaurs" didn't start being "discovered" until the mid 1800's either, just in time for the "theory of evolution" to start being promoted! Coincidences, coincidences, everywhere!! Oh, and just like the "aliens" are locked away in a cupboard somewhere, with only certain people allowed to see them, so too with the bits of "dinosaurs" locked away in a different cupboard somewhere with only certain people allowed to see them. It's very painful being awake to all the nonsense in the world, and inside Jah's org 🥹

And like it's *news*!

The Bible's been reporting on and identifying extraterrestrials since the start, and when I last checked, it's a completely open book available to anyone.

—Timothy,
a believer.
 
And like it's *news*!

The Bible's been reporting on and identifying extraterrestrials since the start, and when I last checked, it's a completely open book available to anyone.

—Timothy,
a believer.
Yeah but Satan doesn't want anyone to know about his and the angels existence, only the little green ones 😅
 
/shaking my head

Source: https://www.wilx.com/2026/06/13/ufo...hat-existence-alien-life-might-mean-religion/


As UFOs go mainstream, the jury is out on what the existence of alien life might mean for religion​


LOS ANGELES (AP) — In “Disclosure Day,” out Friday, Steven Spielberg is once again inviting audiences to ponder the existence of extraterrestrial life — and the implications it would have for religion on Earth.

But Spielberg is hardly the only one making headlines of late about UFOs and the possibility of life on other planets.

What was once considered fringe or conspiratorial has, in recent months, popped up everywhere from the White House to the Catholic Church, as public fascination with unidentified anomalous phenomena — or UAPs, as the government calls them — becomes more mainstream.

The Pentagon in May made public large swaths of UFO files with very little context, leaving curious sleuths to piece together their own interpretations. The dump came just weeks after former President Barack Obama set off a media frenzy for stating unambiguously in an interview that aliens are real, though he later tempered that take.

“Statistically, the universe is so vast that the odds are good there’s life out there,” the former president, who made a surprise visit to the “Disclosure Day” set, posted on social media. “I saw no evidence during my presidency that extraterrestrials have made contact with us. Really!”

Some religious adherents, as well as some nonbelievers, maintain that the existence of life on other planets might undermine many faiths because it would complicate assertions that humans are unique. But others argue the opposite.

“Belief in UFOs is really one of the best things that’s happened to religion in a long time,” said Diana Walsh Pasulka, a religion scholar at the University of North Carolina Wilmington. “It’s a blow to the secular, materialist worldview.”

An intersection of aliens, demons and Catholics​

Even if broad interest in UAPs bolsters the case for an enchanted universe, some believers in religions such as Christianity think they are something to be wary of.

“I don’t think they’re aliens. I think they’re demons,” Vice President JD Vance, a Catholic convert, said in a recent podcast interview.

That sentiment was echoed by Monsignor Stephen Rossetti, formerly an exorcist with the Archdiocese of Washington. He was removed last week by the archbishop, who said statements by Rossetti “gravely undermine” Catholic teaching on demons and the devil.

“It’s my personal belief that probably many, if not most, of these UFO sightings are in fact demons,” Rossetti said in a May 29 video posted on his Facebook page. “Aliens, if there are aliens, don’t possess people.”

Christopher Baglow, who heads a science and religion initiative at the University of Notre Dame, was surprised by the firing, given that Rosetti made clear in the video he was expressing his own opinion. Baglow speculated that there may be other factors behind the decision.

“I ask forgiveness for any ways that I have not been faithful to the teachings of the Church’s Magisterium,” Rosetti said in a statement online.

Despite the assertions by Vance and Rossetti about demons, Baglow maintains the Catholic Church has long been open to the possibility of extraterrestrial life.

“Theologians have been speculating about this for centuries and the church has never ever taught one way or the other,” he said.

While meeting with astronomy students last year at the Vatican, Pope Leo XIV, spoke about the “ancient light of distant galaxies” and the “mysterious joy” provoked by the study of outer space. Some interpreted these remarks as tacit speculation about the possibility of life on other planets.

Extraterrestrials, old and new​

In one sense, the idea of otherworldly beings coming to Earth can be traced back millennia.

“People would call it the plurality of worlds. So even back in the time of Socrates and Aristotle, there were Greek philosophers who talked about beings on other planets and other stars,” Walsh Pasulka said.

But it wasn’t until after 1945 that modern conceptions of UFOs began to develop, according to Jeffrey Kripal, a historian of religions at Rice University. “The flying saucer and the alien and the UFO — it’s definitely a Cold War invasion narrative,” he said.

That narrative explains why UAPs are often perceived as hostile to humans. But it’s also evolved over time and led to the formation of some religions — like Scientology, which counts many a Hollywood celebrity among its adherents — that see extraterrestrials as good or even part of a divine plan. Some adherents to the Nation of Islam, for example, believe that its founder will inaugurate an apocalyptic return to Earth on a spaceship.

The International Raëlian Movement, also known as Raëlism, is a UFO religion that was founded in France in the 1970s. It is still practiced today, with its strongest followings in parts of Asia, Africa and Canada, according to Susan Palmer, a sociologist who studies new religious movements at Concordia University in Montreal.

Its founder, Raël, claims he is a direct descendant of Yahweh, whom Raël visited on the planet of Elohim in 1975. Raëlism claims the Buddha, Jesus and Muhammad are all hybrids of humans and extraterrestrials, as well as Raël’s half brothers.

Of the groups she has studied, Palmer argued Raëlism is the most sympathetic toward UFOs. “They’re not interested in extraterrestrial wars,” she said.

But some think that sentiment might be growing.

Kripal, who heads Rice’s archival collection of reported paranormal experiences called the Center for the Impossible, perceives an increasing openness to these kinds of conversations about the existence of UFOs — and the possibility that they are not hostile.

“People are reporting these experiences or these encounters with entities and they’re religious through and through,” he said. “My colleagues in the academy, they’re really starting to listen in a different way.”
Obama the Pentagon and the Pope are clearly talking out of their combined arses. How fitting for them. How can a statistic be formulated without knowing the measurements in time, space, frequency and the disputed emergence and probability of life when according to accepted world understanding, life “evolved” from an unknown statistic, from an unknown stimuli by a theoretically proposed random strike of electricity, and when according to the latest scientific journals both the accepted (to date) “big bang” theory is now questioned as the means for our existence and that time itself is now being suggested as “slower” at the time of its genesis than it is now? (Even though there is no known measurement for the passing of time or the regulatory speed of light that goes with it especially when science now argues that light travelled slower then than it does now - and which makes a kind of sense because it had less distance to travel to be measured in an expanding universe even though its speed is considered a constant and not necessarily the same as that of the expansion of the universe. If the universe is actually is expanding and which is debatable in itself).

Neither can Raël be a descendant from Jehovah but of Adam. The same as the rest of us. To be a descendant is a physically creative act, something that is formed, and makes one related to another. Life can not be formed in separation of this act and thus Raël is just a common commoner the same as us. Independent life can only be given as is noted by the scriptures pertaining to the anointed and Christ. Life “in themselves”. According to scripture Adam was created and then life was breathed into him. This is a gift and can be lent to anyone. The source of life is extant in Jehovah alone and the same life exists in us to this day despite our humanity - we made ourselves imperfect and thus cannot express it correctly - life of itself is not diminished, otherwise we would not live at all. The divide is seen most clearly in the pregnancy of Mary. How else could perfection be planted in the imperfect human? I think the ‘Centre for the impossible’ is very aptly named. The problem for society is largely that they do not know they are born at all.
 
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Obama the Pentagon and the Pope are clearly talking out of their combined arses. How fitting for them. How can a statistic be formulated without knowing the measurements in time, space, frequency and the disputed emergence and probability of life when according to accepted world understanding, life “evolved” from an unknown statistic, from an unknown stimuli by a theoretically proposed random strike of electricity, and when according to the latest scientific journals both the accepted (to date) “big bang” theory is now questioned as the means for our existence and that time itself is now being suggested as “slower” at the time of its genesis than it is now? (Even though there is no known measurement for the passing of time or the regulatory speed of light that goes with it especially when science now argues that light travelled slower then than it does now - and which makes a kind of sense because it had less distance to travel to be measured in an expanding universe even though its speed is considered a constant and not necessarily the same as that of the expansion of the universe. If the universe is actually is expanding and which is debatable in itself).

Neither can Raël be a descendant from Jehovah but of Adam. The same as the rest of us. To be a descendant is a physically creative act, something that is formed, and makes one related to another. Life can not be formed in separation of this act and thus Raël is just a common commoner the same as us. Independent life can only be given as is noted by the scriptures pertaining to the anointed and Christ. Life “in themselves”. According to scripture Adam was created and then life was breathed into him. This is a gift and can be lent to anyone. The source of life is extant in Jehovah alone and the same life exists in us to this day despite our humanity - we made ourselves imperfect and thus cannot express it correctly - life of itself is not diminished, otherwise we would not live at all. The divide is seen most clearly in the pregnancy of Mary. How else could perfection be planted in the imperfect human? I think the ‘Centre for the impossible’ is very aptly named. The problem for society is largely that they do not know they are born at all.
if tapes and or any videos are indeed real they are definitely demonic in nature. demons will do this to propitiate a lie they will do anything they can to steer people away from the holy father that is there purpose and the best thing mankind can do is stay clear of such things ignore it if there are things going on in a mans home like moving objects on there own or a door opening and closing by its self or throwing and falling objects or seeing some kind of a manifestation such as dark shadows mankind is to ignore it and pray to the father for it to leave your home just pray and the wicked spirit will flee if you ignore it. it may keep trying but once it understands that you will not respond in any way except prayer it will flee the ultimate goal of these wicked spirits are to posses a person and dwell in there human body there mind and there home. we are to stay away from witchcraft Spirit Boards Gothic Letters and Numbers, Decorative Ouija-Style Home Ornament seances any attempt to contact the dead and any kind of idle worship meaning praying to a photo or a statute all of these things invite wicked spirits into your home and even your body and mind. be warned of these things and take note with great care to avoid all these things.

Revelation 13:14

It misleads those who dwell on the earth, because of the signs that it was permitted to perform in the sight of the wild beast, while it tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast that had the sword-stroke and yet revived.

Matthew 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones.

Deuteronomy 18:11anyone binding others with a spell, anyone who consults a spirit medium or a fortune-teller, or anyone who inquires of the dead.

Luke 11:24“ When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through waterless places in search of a resting-place, and after finding none, it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I moved.

’Matthew 12:45 Then it goes and takes along with it seven different spirits more wicked than itself, and after getting inside, they dwell there; and the final circumstances of that man become worse than the first. That is how it will be also with this wicked generation.”

Proverbs 2:22 As for the wicked, they will be cut off from the earth, And the treacherous will be torn away from it.
 
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satin must be working over time again.

Jude 1:6

And the angels who did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place, he has reserved with eternal bonds in dense darkness for the judgment of the great day.

Matthew 24:24

For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones.

Luke 21:35

as a snare. For it will come upon all those dwelling on the face of the whole earth.

John 8:44

That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie.

James 2:19

You believe that there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder.
 
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