Documenting changes of history.

Over the years it seems everything we have noticed has been edited or in the process of being edited. Today (1/26/24) I have noticed on X/Twitter that the statue of Thomas Jefferson being taken down. I want to make this thread in order to document the changes happening in our world. This doesn't have to be just American history & it can include history throughout the world. There's a thread called "All things Mud" where people have noted things that defy the current understanding of history. It seems so much of the truth of our world is being demoted to mere myths & legends. These quotes from Orwell comes to mind:
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.”
― George Orwell
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
― George Orwell, 1984
So if you come across changes, please post them here since it may be of value down the road. Here's what I found today
 

PJ54

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By the way, the commies always try to destroy the culture and history of the lands they subvert. They got a pretty good start in America
This is true! Reminds me of what Mao did in China as he got rid of The Four Olds which were: "Old Ideas, Old Culture, Old Customs, and Old Habits." The people who still held those ideas were looked up with scorn.

 

David Peter

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Should History be Rewritten ? Man that's rich - coming from the Watchtower , and that Awake article was written in 1974 before they had to rewrite the 1975 prophecy for us.
They have rewritten their own history numerous times, where are the older publications ? And how many dates that turned out to be wrong, were rewritten , just take one- the -" this generation will not pass away, " how many times did they rewrite that one ? Maybe six times ?

You could actually start a thread about - Watchtower history that's been rewritten down through all the years.
 

David Peter

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Should History be Rewritten ? Man that's rich - coming from the Watchtower , and that Awake article was written in 1974 before they had to rewrite the 1975 prophecy for us.
They have rewritten their own history numerous times, where are the older publications ? And how many dates that turned out to be wrong, were rewritten , just take one- the -" this generation will not pass away, " how many times did they rewrite that one ? Maybe six times ?

You could actually start a thread about - Watchtower history that's been rewritten down through all the years.
Well the answer is yes, sometimes history should be rewritten, so I'll start by rewriting my own right now , it seems that after having time to actually read the Awake article , I have to admit that it was a really good article, and I jumped on the Watchtower to soon , they did make a good case for having to rewrite history sometimes .
I do miss those days when they actually did write some really great articles. ( sorry I couldn't help myself )
I do miss the Borg sometimes, everything was so neatly packaged , you knew where to go, what to do and say, how to look & dress & groom, everything was underlined , and there were no Bearded men anywhere , even the music was canned.

Oh well let me get back to eating my crow, please pass the humble pie.
Humble pie - I saw them in concert with Peter Frampton , that was before the Borg came and got me, resistance is futile you know.
 
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Ms_ladyblue

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They have rewritten their own history numerous times, where are the older publications ? And how many dates that turned out to be wrong, were rewritten , just take one- the -" this generation will not pass away, " how many times did they rewrite that one ? Maybe six times ?
Ain’t it the truth…too many dates to count that were wrong. As for the “this generation will not pass away“ whatever happened to the infamous “overlapping generation?” They never have mentioned that anymore. In fact I hear that they’re saying now that Jesus wasn’t enthroned in 1914 but will in the near future be enthroned, separate the sheep from the goats, then Armageddon.
Now this has only been announced in Puerto Rico and another country…that many think are testing grounds.

Unbelievable….oh, but wait, this is Watchtower.
 

Ms_ladyblue

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Well the answer is yes, sometimes history should be rewritten, so I'll start by rewriting my own right now , it seems that after having time to actually read the Awake article , I have to admit that it was a really good article, and I jumped on the Watchtower to soon , they did make a good case for having to rewrite history sometimes .
I do miss those days when they actually did write some really great articles. ( sorry I couldn't help myself )
I do miss the Borg sometimes, everything was so neatly packaged , you knew where to go, what to do and say, how to look & dress & groom, everything was underlined , and there were no Bearded men anywhere , even the music was canned.

Oh well let me get back to eating my crow, please pass the humble pie.
Humble pie - I saw them in concert with Peter Frampton , that was before the Borg came and got me, resistance is futile you know.
Your thoughts about rewriting history and missing those days when they wrote some great articles and the rest was good…. and you’re so right.

I got lost on your eating crow and going to see Humble pie lol. 😉
 

Bk Kevin

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More food for thought...

Excerpted from-The Secretary’s Inkhorn.​

QUESTION: Whats your take on the new June 2016 WT, page 16, Question from Readers: “Whom do the man with the secretary’s inkhorn and the six men with smashing weapons described in Ezekiel’s vision symbolize?”
ANSWER: The Watchtower’s recent “adjustment” is correct. The man with the inkhorn and the six men with smashing weapons symbolize the angels who are involved in both saving the righteous and executing the wicked. And as they correctly note, the actual destruction of Jerusalem was carried out by Babylon.

But the Watchtower’s relatively trivial “adjustment” does not bring things into proper focus. According to the article apostate Jerusalem represents Christendom and the world at large that will be destroyed at Armageddon. That is simply not the case. For example, why ought Jehovah’s people sigh and groan over the detestable things taking place in Christendom? There are a lot of people who are disheartened and disgusted by religion, but does that endear them to God or qualify them to be marked for salvation? Obviously not.

If we take the entire prophecy into consideration it unquestionably points to the judgment of the house of God —not Christendom. That is evident from the fact that Jehovah caused Ezekiel to see in vision all the evil things that were being done within the temple of Jehovah in Jerusalem. That city, and especially the temple, was the place where Jehovah caused his name to reside. Read more> https://e-watchman.com/the-secretarys-inkhorn/
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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There is actually a YouTube channel that has accurate Watchtower history…it’s called the Watchtower history channel.
Ahem, not rewritten….
Yes there is a watchtower history book. It’s in the library under “Fiction”. First printed 1914, revised 1924, 1936, 1939, 1941 1949, 1953, 1961 1968, 1975, 1975, 1975 1975, etc etc with a leather bound EXTENDED EDITION by David Splane 2021. However, in 2024 at the annual general meeting, it was revealed by Mr Winder, newly appointed Scapegoat, that the book was apparently “ghost“ written and that it contained several mistakes for which they were not going to apologise for because their channel was faulty.
 

Bk Kevin

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Excerpted from-They will exploit you with counterfeit words​

The apostle, however, forcefully forewarned that there will be challenges. Foremost, he alerted us to the presence of false teachers who will exploit us with counterfeit words. Please take note: The apostle did not say you might be subjected to false teachers. He stated it as a certainty: “However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among you. These will quietly bring in destructive sects, and they will even disown the owner who bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves.” — 2 Peter 2:1 Read more> https://e-watchman.com/they-will-exploit-you-with-counterfeit-words/
 

Ms_ladyblue

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Yes there is a watchtower history book. It’s in the library under “Fiction”. First printed 1914, revised 1924, 1936, 1939, 1941 1949, 1953, 1961 1968, 1975, 1975, 1975 1975, etc etc with a leather bound EXTENDED EDITION by David Splane 2021. However, in 2024 at the annual general meeting, it was revealed by Mr Winder, newly appointed Scapegoat, that the book was apparently “ghost“ written and that it contained several mistakes for which they were not going to apologise for because their channel was faulty.
This Watchtower history does in fact give you the real truths about WT. The behind the scenes we didn’t know about. Two men who come from different backgrounds present the information. One is a WT researcher as well as the other but he was raised by his grandmother who was a witness but he never got baptized.

They‘ve really got some in depth information about WT history on both Russell and Rutherford and their part in being presidents of the organization and how they handled the events of that time, including the first two World Wars and much more.
 
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