DRAGON IN THE SAND OF THE SEA

In Revelation 13, while the 7-headed beast emerges from the sea, in the sand of the sea the "Motionless" dragon is mentioned, as if in a state of contemplation while seeing the beast emerge to which it will give its power. So my question is... If the beast is clearly rising from the evil sea of humanity... What does it mean that the dragon is motionless in the sand? Just contemplating? and in case it is so... Is the devil and his princely minions already in this dimension? For the things that have happened lately, the level of deception, impudence and worldwide corruption, it does not seem strange to me. An unpleasant air is felt in the environment, in which many of us do not fit. I await your opinions.
 

Driven

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In Revelation 13, while the 7-headed beast emerges from the sea, in the sand of the sea the "Motionless" dragon is mentioned, as if in a state of contemplation while seeing the beast emerge to which it will give its power. So my question is... If the beast is clearly rising from the evil sea of humanity... What does it mean that the dragon is motionless in the sand? Just contemplating? and in case it is so... Is the devil and his princely minions already in this dimension? For the things that have happened lately, the level of deception, impudence and worldwide corruption, it does not seem strange to me. An unpleasant air is felt in the environment, in which many of us do not fit. I await your opinions.
Interesting question.
 

MickHewitt

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In Revelation 13, while the 7-headed beast emerges from the sea, in the sand of the sea the "Motionless" dragon is mentioned, as if in a state of contemplation while seeing the beast emerge to which it will give its power. So my question is... If the beast is clearly rising from the evil sea of humanity... What does it mean that the dragon is motionless in the sand? Just contemplating? and in case it is so... Is the devil and his princely minions already in this dimension? For the things that have happened lately, the level of deception, impudence and worldwide corruption, it does not seem strange to me. An unpleasant air is felt in the environment, in which many of us do not fit. I await your opinions.
The search box on e-watchman is very useful
 
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MickHewitt

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I don’t now if this answers your question? There was a article last year in e watchman on this subject

You got there before me Maybelle! I should check before I post...Chortle!
 

Watchman

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It is unfortunate that the men who divided up the scriptures into chapters and verses decided to cut the 12th chapter where they did. Revelation 13:1 is widowed from the context. Seems rather arbitrary. In any case, it is an interesting juxtaposition. On the one hand, we have the dragon standing on the sand of the sea, obviously after he has been hurled down from heaven; and on the other hand, we have a strong angel, depicted in such a way to identify Christ, coming down from heaven and standing astride the sea and earth with one foot on each--obviously laying claim to dominion as Lord of all. "And I saw another strong angel descending from heaven, arrayed with a cloud, and a rainbow was on his head, and his face was like the sun, and his legs were like pillars of fire, and he had in his hand a little scroll that had been unrolled. And he set his right foot on the sea, but his left one on the earth, and he cried out with a loud voice just as when a lion roars. And when he cried out, the voices of the seven thunders spoke." - Revelation 10:1-3

The war starts in heaven but it will be finished on earth. Have we heard the strong angel cry out with a loud voice like a lion? I doubt it. Have the seven thunders spoken? Again, no. Wait for it. Shouldn't be too much longer.
 

BagdadBill

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The evil sea of humanity. Satan's influence has always been here and he has always had his devotees or at least, people who prefer to go his direction. You said it with that name, evil sea of humanity. Satan is guilty of manslaughter or murder but that doesn't excuse humans following his path of evil, so it isn't all him. The human family has to accept responsibility for what happens and has happened. Becoming Christian is the divorcing one's self from that path and joining God's condemnation of that path.
As bad as things are right now, they are about to get much worse when Satan gets the boot.
 

The God Pill

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In Revelation in mentioning the new heaven and new earth it says the sea will be no more obviously that's not referring to there being no bodies of water rather given the sea equaled chaos in the ancient world that once Satan is executed after the final test that no opposition will ever exist again to Jehovah's order.

For something to emerge from the sea in symbology is not positive as it's in opposition to God's order and entropic an aftershock of chaoskampf in a sense a reversion to/agent of primordial chaos vs God's negentropic ordering of creation.
 
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MickHewitt

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In Revelation 13, while the 7-headed beast emerges from the sea, in the sand of the sea the "Motionless" dragon is mentioned, as if in a state of contemplation while seeing the beast emerge to which it will give its power. So my question is... If the beast is clearly rising from the evil sea of humanity... What does it mean that the dragon is motionless in the sand? Just contemplating? and in case it is so... Is the devil and his princely minions already in this dimension? For the things that have happened lately, the level of deception, impudence and worldwide corruption, it does not seem strange to me. An unpleasant air is felt in the environment, in which many of us do not fit. I await your opinions.
The strings holding up the Anglo/American beast are cut when the Devil's concentration is else where: Could he and his demons juggle battling with Christ and His angels while orchestrating global affairs? When he comes round his love affair with the 'First wild beast' will resume! Even getting the world to worship it Rev13:4! Rhodes British Church ideology comes to fruition backed by none other than Satan himself!
 
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Patricia

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In Revelation 13, while the 7-headed beast emerges from the sea, in the sand of the sea the "Motionless" dragon is mentioned, as if in a state of contemplation while seeing the beast emerge to which it will give its power. So my question is... If the beast is clearly rising from the evil sea of humanity... What does it mean that the dragon is motionless in the sand? Just contemplating? and in case it is so... Is the devil and his princely minions already in this dimension? For the things that have happened lately, the level of deception, impudence and worldwide corruption, it does not seem strange to me. An unpleasant air is felt in the environment, in which many of us do not fit. I await your opinions.
Agreed, a real sensation that we don't belong. Even people who are not true believers can feel it. Just this morning, someone said it feels like we're living in the matrix, an alternative reality.
 

יהוה_saves

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In Revelation 13, while the 7-headed beast emerges from the sea, in the sand of the sea the "Motionless" dragon is mentioned, as if in a state of contemplation while seeing the beast emerge to which it will give its power. So my question is... If the beast is clearly rising from the evil sea of humanity... What does it mean that the dragon is motionless in the sand? Just contemplating? and in case it is so... Is the devil and his princely minions already in this dimension? For the things that have happened lately, the level of deception, impudence and worldwide corruption, it does not seem strange to me. An unpleasant air is felt in the environment, in which many of us do not fit. I await your opinions.
perhaps it means he goes off into a period of inactivity. I would have to compare the scriptures but the seven headed beast, aka the KOTN enters a period of inactivity, as this, from an essay a brother wrote:

After entering the land of decoration and conquering the king of the south, the king of the North (the UN) seems to be in a state of rest or inactivity for an undisclosed amount of time. We can determine this by examining Revelation 17:6-11. In those verses John is told - “The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction.” (Re 17:8)

He was also informed “the wild beast that was but is not, it is also an eighth king, but it springs from the seven”. (Re 17:11) Revelation reveals that after the UN wild beast, the eighth king, loses its battle with the Lamb, it will go into a period of inactivity before he rises back up and ‘goes off into destruction’. This seems to fit with a period of inactivity or rest that the king of the north experiences after gaining control of the world and remaining in Egypt for a time.

Then later he ‘goes out’ of Egypt to once again confront a situation in the land of the holy mountain of Decoration, proving that he failed to wipe them out the first time. What’s the reason for his going out of Egypt and back to the land of Israel?

The king of the north hears “reports out of the east and out of the north” that will “disturb him” so that he will “go out in a great rage to annihilate and to devote many to destruction. And he will plant his royal tents between the grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration. ”(Da11:44,45)

After hearing these disturbing reports he ‘goes out’ from his place of rest or inactivity in Egypt, and marches north and east to confront the place where the disturbing reports originate from. (This is parallel to the Roman armies coming to destroy Jerusalem in 70 C.E.) He plants his armies “between the grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration” which is symbolic of those who represent “heavenly Jerusalem” or the “New Jerusalem”. (Heb 12:22; Rev 3:12)

This appears to be an effort to confront all religion, as if giving the ultimatum – 'either worship the king of the north or be destroyed’. (Compare: Da 11:35) Will he be successful in this final confrontation with God’s people? According to Daniel’s prophecy the answer is no.
 

Rockman_91

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I know the Bible says he has little time but, I think that satan has to use our physical world to enslave or kill us. I think he has to play by our rules, like waiting for our technology to make it easier for him. Unfortunately technology could be used for good but it's not. Our phones are the new portal not the tv. Just read the FCC rules for technology.
 
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