EarthQuakes in One place after another

[Guest]

Jesus said that there would be earthquakes in one place after another in his prophetic speech about the end times in the Gospels. I am curious if those here believe that these earthquakes occur prior to WW3, or during? Yes there have, and are, earthquakes in one place after another throughout the world right now, however Jesus' prophecy is specifically dealing with the timeframe of when 'nation rises against nation, and kingdom against kingdom', which is going to envelop the whole world soon. Do you think that a powerful weapon(H.A.A.R.P?) will be used to create these earthquakes which has been alluded to in many circles?

Also, just as an observation. It seems this forum is looking for WW3 to break out any time. I do as well considering the events that are unfolding, however aren't there a few things that have to happen from a prophetic standpoint before WW3 erupts? First, doesn't the King of the North have to be subjected back by the ships of Kittim, and as well the disgusting thing must be placed and the constant feature be removed? I thought these things were prior to the Great Tribulation(WW3), which would mean that although it seems we are very close to WW3, we must stay awake to these things that are going to occur before world war III breaks out.

 

[Guest]

(Da 11:29-31) “29 “At the time appointed he will go back, and he will actually come against the south; but it will not prove to be at the last the same as at the first. 30 And there will certainly come against him the ships of Kit´tim, and he will have to become dejected. “And he will actually go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively; and he will have to go back and will give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. 31 And there will be arms that will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature].. . .”

 

[Maybelle]

and as well the disgusting thing must be placed and the constant feature be removed? I

Hi welcome to the forum, I believe looking back
On post that these things are linked to the pangs of distress, before the tribulation. If you put “pangs of distress” into the search bar you can see some further comments on the subject

 

[Frank D]

I thought these things were prior to the Great Tribulation(WW3), which would mean that although it seems we are very close to WW3, we must stay awake to these things that are going to occur before world war III breaks out.

WW3 are the 'pangs of distress' and is the reason of the why/how the DT is put into place. It is the 42 months of the DT/8th king that are the said GT upon those refusing to support him.

 

[Frank D]

Jesus said that there would be earthquakes in one place after another in his prophetic speech about the end times in the Gospels.

I wonder if it is more than just 'earthquakes'....

7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.

24 Now look! a great storm arose on the sea, so that the boat was being covered by the waves; but he was sleeping.

4578. seismos - a shaking (as an earthquake); a storm - a violent disturbance of the atmosphere with strong winds and usually rain, thunder, lightning, or snow - hurricane, tornado, snowstorm, hailstorm...

 

[kenmuldoon55]

Jesus said that there would be earthquakes in one place after another in his prophetic speech about the end times in the Gospels. I am curious if those here believe that these earthquakes occur prior to WW3, or during? Yes there have, and are, earthquakes in one place after another throughout the world right now, however Jesus' prophecy is specifically dealing with the timeframe of when 'nation rises against nation, and kingdom against kingdom', which is going to envelop the whole world soon. Do you think that a powerful weapon(H.A.A.R.P?) will be used to create these earthquakes which has been alluded to in many circles?

Also, just as an observation. It seems this forum is looking for WW3 to break out any time. I do as well considering the events that are unfolding, however aren't there a few things that have to happen from a prophetic standpoint before WW3 erupts? First, doesn't the King of the North have to be subjected back by the ships of Kittim, and as well the disgusting thing must be placed and the constant feature be removed? I thought these things were prior to the Great Tribulation(WW3), which would mean that although it seems we are very close to WW3, we must stay awake to these things that are going to occur before world war III breaks out.

Maybe a few nukes will cause fault lines to break open

 

[Soul Sage]

There has always been earthquakes. There were actually alot more earthquakes during the flood with the earth being flooded and previous land bridges were now covered in water. Before, all continents had land bridges. That's how animals all over the world were able to get onto Noah's Ark without any interference from a big ocean blocking their path to the Ark.

Today, earthquakes may not be in the literal sense of the word but still they do happen. What really makes the world quake is the chaos of geopolitical events that take place. While earthquakes still occur it doesn't affect everyone that are away from fault lines like in Florida here and other places. Earth shattering events happen globally not only in specific areas.

 

[kenmuldoon55]

There has always been earthquakes. There were actually alot more earthquakes during the flood with the earth being flooded and previous land bridges were now covered in water. Before, all continents had land bridges. That's how animals all over the world were able to get onto Noah's Ark without any interference from a big ocean blocking their path to the Ark.

Today, earthquakes may not be in the literal sense of the word but still they do happen. What really makes the world quake is the chaos of geopolitical events that take place. While earthquakes still occur it doesn't affect everyone that are away from fault lines like in Florida here and other places. Earth shattering events happen globally not only in specific areas.

Perhaps the quakes will sever major transportation and supply corridors.

 

[Frank D]

I wonder if it is more than just 'earthquakes'....

7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.

24 Now look! a great storm arose on the sea, so that the boat was being covered by the waves; but he was sleeping.

4578. seismos - a shaking (as an earthquake); a storm - a violent disturbance of the atmosphere with strong winds and usually rain, thunder, lightning, or snow - hurricane, tornado, snowstorm, hailstorm...

Or perhaps:

σεισμός seismós, - a commotion, an earthquake: —tempest. - a violent wind especially : one accompanied by rain, hail, or snow - : a violent commotion : TUMULT, UPROAR - a turbulent uprising : RIOT - a violent public disorder - a condition of civil unrest or insurrection
i.e. 'The commotion was finally brought to an end and peace was restored.'

 

[jay]

Perhaps the quakes will sever major transportation and supply corridors.

Wouldn't it be a real kicker if we had a fully stocked house with survival food and water and a natural disaster totaled it out? Earthquaked knocked it down, tornado sucked it up, hurricane floated it away.

 

[BagdadBill]

Wouldn't it be a real kicker if we had a fully stocked house with survival food and water and a natural disaster totaled it out? Earthquaked knocked it down, tornado sucked it up, hurricane floated it away.

I've been trying to learn what can be foraged in my area just for that reason. I don't want to pick something that kills me or makes me hallucinate.

 

[SusanB]

Jesus said that there would be earthquakes in one place after another in his prophetic speech about the end times in the Gospels. I am curious if those here believe that these earthquakes occur prior to WW3, or during? Yes there have, and are, earthquakes in one place after another throughout the world right now, however Jesus' prophecy is specifically dealing with the timeframe of when 'nation rises against nation, and kingdom against kingdom', which is going to envelop the whole world soon. Do you think that a powerful weapon(H.A.A.R.P?) will be used to create these earthquakes which has been alluded to in many circles?

Also, just as an observation. It seems this forum is looking for WW3 to break out any time. I do as well considering the events that are unfolding, however aren't there a few things that have to happen from a prophetic standpoint before WW3 erupts? First, doesn't the King of the North have to be subjected back by the ships of Kittim, and as well the disgusting thing must be placed and the constant feature be removed? I thought these things were prior to the Great Tribulation(WW3), which would mean that although it seems we are very close to WW3, we must stay awake to these things that are going to occur before world war III breaks out.

Perhaps this will be helpful. Have you read Chapter 16 in Robert King’s book?

Post in thread 'Chapter 16 - An Eighth King'
https://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/index.php?threads/chapter-16-an-eighth-king.2721/post-96614

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

Jesus said that there would be earthquakes in one place after another in his prophetic speech about the end times in the Gospels. I am curious if those here believe that these earthquakes occur prior to WW3, or during? Yes there have, and are, earthquakes in one place after another throughout the world right now, however Jesus' prophecy is specifically dealing with the timeframe of when 'nation rises against nation, and kingdom against kingdom', which is going to envelop the whole world soon. Do you think that a powerful weapon(H.A.A.R.P?) will be used to create these earthquakes which has been alluded to in many circles?

Also, just as an observation. It seems this forum is looking for WW3 to break out any time. I do as well considering the events that are unfolding, however aren't there a few things that have to happen from a prophetic standpoint before WW3 erupts? First, doesn't the King of the North have to be subjected back by the ships of Kittim, and as well the disgusting thing must be placed and the constant feature be removed? I thought these things were prior to the Great Tribulation(WW3), which would mean that although it seems we are very close to WW3, we must stay awake to these things that are going to occur before world war III breaks out.

Interesting questions. I have not considered the finer points, generally because it seems very difficult to explain them beyond any argument. Prophesy is not a strong point with me, though the more significant ones, central to the destruction of this system are becoming increasingly clear as you note. So are the symptoms with mankind in many, many respects. The disgusting thing you mention - depends what you believe that may be and in what context. Robert kings book gives a good account of that and importantly, that is in context with what we know of Jehovah’s prophesy at this time. Susan has already recommended that book and I can too in that it is contextual with the scriptures and is not biased. It’s a very good argument on the scripture and those two points alone make it worth the reading if you are looking for insight into the scripture.

As for weaponry and the terms of destruction, it is likely if not certain, that nuclear fission will be unleashed because the scriptures note that “unless the days are cut short, no one would survive.” Given the time frame discussed in the scripture, that gives credence, but there is the threat of biological warfare which could replace nuclear with rapidity - so either or, really. It really does not matter by what means, only that we have the faith in Jehovah, the belief, the understanding and the wisdom to use it…. The love of righteousness. Not a lot else is of concern - one will not survive without it. That is the point of the site really, biblical study, freely discussed - to liberate people to find the narrow way + back to square one of 2,000 years ago. Very liberating.

 

[Watchman]

Throughout the Hebrew prophecies, Jehovah's judgments came in the form expressed as sword, famine, and pestilence. There are probably 30-40 such statements. Jesus foretold that during the conclusion, nations will rise against nations, and there will be food shortages, pestilence, and great earthquakes. Then, in the sixth chapter of Revelation, the horsemen of the Apocalypse bring war, food shortages, and deadly plagues. (No mention of earthquakes.) It seems that the reason war, famine and pestilence are symbolized by horsemen in Revelation is because the coming war, famine, and pestilence will be intentionally brought about by men. War, of course, is always caused by men; sometimes, though, food shortages and pandemics are naturally occurring. But, apparently, during the conclusion, famine and pestilence will be manufactured. Apparently, it is true that men have developed the technology to cause earthquakes, but whether or not that will be the source of the great earthquakes in the future is not knowable.

 

[Bk Kevin]

Maybe a few nukes will cause fault lines to break open

I read somewhere that Putin has a nuclear warhead aimed right at Yellowstone Park, but Jesus said they'll be earthquakes in one place after another perhaps what Jesus was alluding to was the very impact of these nuclear warheads quaking the earth in one place after another.

You see, unlike science fiction stories, in which nuclear weapons seem to be the cause of, and solution to, many geological catastrophes, science fact tells us that you aren't likely to trigger a Yellowstone cataclysm with a nuclear weapon. How do we know? It's because this experiment has already been tried. Read more> https://www.usgs.gov/observatories/...ience fiction,cataclysm with a nuclear weapon.

 

[Bk Kevin]

Wouldn't it be a real kicker if we had a fully stocked house with survival food and water and a natural disaster totaled it out? Earthquaked knocked it down, tornado sucked it up, hurricane floated it away.

That's pretty much what happened to job in a nutshell it's a good thing he had strong faith I pray to Jehovah that he gives us more faith like that of job.

Job13:1-28> https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/bi12/books/job/13/​

 

[Bk Kevin]

I wonder if it is more than just 'earthquakes'....

7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.

24 Now look! a great storm arose on the sea, so that the boat was being covered by the waves; but he was sleeping.

4578. seismos - a shaking (as an earthquake); a storm - a violent disturbance of the atmosphere with strong winds and usually rain, thunder, lightning, or snow - hurricane, tornado, snowstorm, hailstorm...

Some scriptures for thought...​

Joel2:​

30 “And I will give portents in the heavens+ and on the earth, blood and fire and columns of smoke.+ 31 The sun itself will be turned into darkness,+ and the moon into blood,+ before the coming of the great and fear-inspiring day of Jehovah.+

Revelation8:1-13> https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/bi12/books/revelation/8/​

 

[Ana]

That's pretty much what happened to job in a nutshell it's a good thing he had strong faith I pray to Jehovah that he gives us more faith like that of job.

Job13:1-28> https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/bi12/books/job/13/​

Fe y aguante, esa es la cuestión! A menudo cuando estoy triste por situaciones dolorosas pienso en la gran Tribulacion. Miles de demonios buscando apagar nuestro espiritu, uuuuy será intenso. Deberemos de centrarnos en lo que sucede para entender que es pasajero y que lo próximo será muy bueno, para aguantar estoicamente. No sentir, solo orar, no pensar solo esperar en Jehová y así, hasta que pase la tormenta. Programados para sobrevivir!! Se que no podremos compartir esos momentos juntos y charlar en debates con suposiciones como lo hacemos aquí ahora. Pero se que me acordaré de vosotros y se que pediremos unos por otros y por nuestro aguante pero sobretodo, por el aguante de todos los restantes que han de pasar la prueba. Dudo que queramos dormir como los apóstoles en el huerto de Getsemani, pues habrá un poco más de...llamémosle ruido! Abrazos Kevin! Me llevaré muchos de tus textos en la memoria, guardados en el corazon.

 

[Bk Kevin]

Fe y aguante, esa es la cuestión! A menudo cuando estoy triste por situaciones dolorosas pienso en la gran Tribulacion. Miles de demonios buscando apagar nuestro espiritu, uuuuy será intenso. Deberemos de centrarnos en lo que sucede para entender que es pasajero y que lo próximo será muy bueno, para aguantar estoicamente. No sentir, solo orar, no pensar solo esperar en Jehová y así, hasta que pase la tormenta. Programados para sobrevivir!! Se que no podremos compartir esos momentos juntos y charlar en debates con suposiciones como lo hacemos aquí ahora. Pero se que me acordaré de vosotros y se que pediremos unos por otros y por nuestro aguante pero sobretodo, por el aguante de todos los restantes que han de pasar la prueba. Dudo que queramos dormir como los apóstoles en el huerto de Getsemani, pues habrá un poco más de...llamémosle ruido! Abrazos Kevin! Me llevaré muchos de tus textos en la memoria, guardados en el corazon.

Spanish to English.
Faith and endurance, that's the question! Often when I am sad due to painful situations I think about the great Tribulation. Thousands of demons seeking to extinguish our spirit, it will be intense. We will have to focus on what is happening to understand that it is temporary and that the next thing will be very good, to endure stoically. Don't feel, just pray, don't think, just wait on Jehovah and so on, until the storm passes. Programmed to survive!! I know we won't be able to share those moments together and chat in debates with assumptions like we do here now. But I know that I will remember you and I know that we will pray for each other and for our endurance, but above all, for the endurance of all the rest who have to pass the test. I doubt we want to sleep like the apostles in the garden of Gethsemane, because there will be a little more...let's call it noise! Hugs Kevin! I will take many of your texts in my memory, kept in my heart.

1 Peter 4:13​

13 On the contrary, go on rejoicinga forasmuch as YOU are sharers in the sufferings of the Christ,b that YOU may rejoice and be overjoyed also during the revelation*c of his glory.

21:1-27
21 And I saw a new heaven+ and a new earth;+ for the former heaven+ and the former earth+ had passed away, and the sea+ is no more. 2 I saw also the holy city,+ New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven+ from God and prepared as a bride+ adorned for her husband.+ 3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent*+ of God is with mankind, and he will reside*+ with them, and they will be his peoples.+ And God himself will be with them.+ 4 And he will wipe out every tear+ from their eyes, and death will be no more,+ neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.+ The former things have passed away.”+ https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/bi12/books/revelation/21/

 

[Ana]

Spanish to English.
Faith and endurance, that's the question! Often when I am sad due to painful situations I think about the great Tribulation. Thousands of demons seeking to extinguish our spirit, it will be intense. We will have to focus on what is happening to understand that it is temporary and that the next thing will be very good, to endure stoically. Don't feel, just pray, don't think, just wait on Jehovah and so on, until the storm passes. Programmed to survive!! I know we won't be able to share those moments together and chat in debates with assumptions like we do here now. But I know that I will remember you and I know that we will pray for each other and for our endurance, but above all, for the endurance of all the rest who have to pass the test. I doubt we want to sleep like the apostles in the garden of Gethsemane, because there will be a little more...let's call it noise! Hugs Kevin! I will take many of your texts in my memory, kept in my heart.

1 Peter 4:13​

13 On the contrary, go on rejoicinga forasmuch as YOU are sharers in the sufferings of the Christ,b that YOU may rejoice and be overjoyed also during the revelation*c of his glory.

21:1-27
21 And I saw a new heaven+ and a new earth;+ for the former heaven+ and the former earth+ had passed away, and the sea+ is no more. 2 I saw also the holy city,+ New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven+ from God and prepared as a bride+ adorned for her husband.+ 3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent*+ of God is with mankind, and he will reside*+ with them, and they will be his peoples.+ And God himself will be with them.+ 4 And he will wipe out every tear+ from their eyes, and death will be no more,+ neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.+ The former things have passed away.”+ https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/bi12/books/revelation/21/

Enjugar lágrimas es una poesía.

 

[Guest]

Many things to consider, I personally believe that when Jesus said “earthquakes in one place after another” he was not talking metaphorically but literally.

Regarding the ‘ships of Kttim”, I guess it doesn’t really matter who those represent because we will know soon enough who they are when they turn the King of the North back to his own land in dejection. It seems as though the USA will at some point venture out toward the King of the South and will be dejected as Daniel says. So it should be pretty recognizable when the USA has to turn their ships around in disgrace. I wonder if this will have anything to do with Gaza and the genocide that is occurring over there? Is the United States even the King of the North yet, and what role does Israel have within this prophecy considering that they have used the USA as their proxy army in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Yemen, and Iran. All these countries surround Israel, and Israel specifically benefits from the turmoil that the USA has caused in that part of the world. Has the United States benefitted? No, our army has dwindled as well as our reserves in ammunition, fuel, armament, etc.

(Da 11:29-31) “29 “At the time appointed he will go back, and he will actually come against the south; but it will not prove to be at the last the same as at the first. 30 And there will certainly come against him the ships of Kit´tim, and he will have to become dejected. “And he will actually go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively; and he will have to go back and will give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. 31 And there will be arms that will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature].. . .”

Christianity is already under attack, so what is going to cause the King of the North to come back and ‘hurl denunciations against the holy covenant” in such a way as to highlight this attack on Christians? Will there be terrorist attacks that are blamed on Christians to make them look bad? We already see the United Nations influence in the WT. How will the constant feature be placed I wonder?

These things must happen before the great tribulation. Thanks for the replies.

 

[Maybelle]

“Is the United States even the King of the North yet,”

No and never will be, the British empire is the king of the north.

There is a really good YouTube series by RK that you might find helpful

 

[Guest]

“Is the United States even the King of the North yet,”

No and never will be, the British empire is the king of the north.

There is a really good YouTube series by RK that you might find helpful

Yes, thanks for the correction. Should have said is the United States part of the King of the North yet? It is certainly being used by the King of the North as though it is, even if it hasn’t been prophetically included within it yet which will happen according to the scriptures. I was just curious what others thought regarding these things that must take place prior to WWIII that haven’t yet. It seems like most of the posts on this forum are looking for WWIIi to break out soon, which I think so as well, but there are a couple big things that have to happen first.

 

[Jahrule]

Yes, thanks for the correction. Should have said is the United States part of the King of the North yet? It is certainly being used by the King of the North as though it is, even if it hasn’t been prophetically included within it yet which will happen according to the scriptures. I was just curious what others thought regarding these things that must take place prior to WWIII that haven’t yet. It seems like most of the posts on this forum are looking for WWIIi to break out soon, which I think so as well, but there are a couple big things that have to happen first.

Because the KOTN subjugates the KOTS, I suspect the pushing between the two culminate in a collapse, only to later revive as the 8th king. As it has been pointed out, the KOTN has tentacles that spill over into various institutions. All this political strife we see, all the animosity raging around us, the conflicts in Hollywood, etc are a symptom of this greater conflict brewing in the spiritual world. People tend to just think about it as right vs left. But if you look closely you'll see this conflict is happening everywhere, all over the world. So it's bigger than republican vs democrat. Nevertheless, the apparent animosity radiating from every corner in this country is absolutely part of the same beast destined for the abyss.

Of course, when it revives, that's a whole different ballgame.

 

[kenmuldoon55]

I read somewhere that Putin has a nuclear warhead aimed right at Yellowstone Park, but Jesus said they'll be earthquakes in one place after another perhaps what Jesus was alluding to was the very impact of these nuclear warheads quaking the earth in one place after another.

You see, unlike science fiction stories, in which nuclear weapons seem to be the cause of, and solution to, many geological catastrophes, science fact tells us that you aren't likely to trigger a Yellowstone cataclysm with a nuclear weapon. How do we know? It's because this experiment has already been tried. Read more> https://www.usgs.gov/observatories/yvo/news/can-a-nuclear-blast-trigger-a-yellowstone-eruption-no-how-about-earthquake#:~:text=You see, unlike science fiction,cataclysm with a nuclear weapon.

Fascinating resource Kevin, thanks for that.
That eliminates that notion.