EarthQuakes in One place after another

I read somewhere that Putin has a nuclear warhead aimed right at Yellowstone Park, but Jesus said they'll be earthquakes in one place after another perhaps what Jesus was alluding to was the very impact of these nuclear warheads quaking the earth in one place after another.

You see, unlike science fiction stories, in which nuclear weapons seem to be the cause of, and solution to, many geological catastrophes, science fact tells us that you aren't likely to trigger a Yellowstone cataclysm with a nuclear weapon. How do we know? It's because this experiment has already been tried. Read more> https://www.usgs.gov/observatories/yvo/news/can-a-nuclear-blast-trigger-a-yellowstone-eruption-no-how-about-earthquake#:~:text=You see, unlike science fiction,cataclysm with a nuclear weapon.
I would imagine that the stress, weight and energy between tectonic plates is a trifle more than a piddling little nuke by comparison. Compare a nuke exploded under water and the tsunami caused by a mid range earthquake. The energy release dwarfs the common nuke. The main irritant of nuclear fission is the pressure wave and the intransigence of concrete that stands in its way. Earth tends to absorb energy rather than resist. 🤣
 
I would imagine that the stress, weight and energy between tectonic plates is a trifle more than a piddling little nuke by comparison. Compare a nuke exploded under water and the tsunami caused by a mid range earthquake. The energy release dwarfs the common nuke. The main irritant of nuclear fission is the pressure wave and the intransigence of concrete that stands in its way. Earth tends to absorb energy rather than resist. 🤣
When Turkeye experienced that earthquake in 2023; While there is no absolute proof that the 6 February 2023 (7.8 Richter) earthquake was manmade, caused by ENMOD / HAARP technologies (Environmental Modification / High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program), more than circumstantial evidence is growing that we are living in a geoengineering war – where weather and climate are manipulated by highly sophisticated technologies – which are also able to create earthquakes – and are presented as “climate change”.
They have found elements that can withstand passing through earth's atmosphere without breaking up; the hypersonic metals used are the same alloy of elements capable of vast speed without breaking up targetting vulnerable earthquake zones!
 
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Some scriptures for thought...​

Joel2:​

30 “And I will give portents in the heavens+ and on the earth, blood and fire and columns of smoke.+ 31 The sun itself will be turned into darkness,+ and the moon into blood,+ before the coming of the great and fear-inspiring day of Jehovah.+

Revelation8:1-13> https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/bi12/books/revelation/8/

What is the line of thought that you have in citing that when it comes to what has been asked/said about earthquakes?

The question was:

Jesus said that there would be earthquakes in one place after another in his prophetic speech about the end times in the Gospels. I am curious if those here believe that these earthquakes occur prior to WW3, or during?

My reply was because the word 4578. seismos is used for both earthquake and great storm, could it apply to severe weather conditions in one place after another...then I added that seismos could also mean commotions like riots/civil unrest.

I mentioned that part based on this statement:

What really makes the world quake is the chaos of geopolitical events that take place.

That makes since during the time of WW3/POD:

7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and riots/civil unrest in one place after another.
 
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Jesus said that there would be earthquakes in one place after another in his prophetic speech about the end times in the Gospels. I am curious if those here believe that these earthquakes occur prior to WW3, or during? Yes there have, and are, earthquakes in one place after another throughout the world right now, however Jesus' prophecy is specifically dealing with the timeframe of when 'nation rises against nation, and kingdom against kingdom', which is going to envelop the whole world soon. Do you think that a powerful weapon(H.A.A.R.P?) will be used to create these earthquakes which has been alluded to in many circles?

Also, just as an observation. It seems this forum is looking for WW3 to break out any time. I do as well considering the events that are unfolding, however aren't there a few things that have to happen from a prophetic standpoint before WW3 erupts? First, doesn't the King of the North have to be subjected back by the ships of Kittim, and as well the disgusting thing must be placed and the constant feature be removed? I thought these things were prior to the Great Tribulation(WW3), which would mean that although it seems we are very close to WW3, we must stay awake to these things that are going to occur before world war III breaks out.

Maybelle mentioned looking at a past thread. I believe it's titled "earthquakes in the Lord's day" If memory serves me, there was much discussion about this which may help.
 
I think Jesus warning of earthquakes was a literal warning. If it was a metaphor for political or social earthquakes what is the metaphor for pestilence and food shortage? It doesn’t feel right to only take part of that prophetic warning as literal and the other part metaphorically, at least to me.
You forgot war. War, pestilence, food shortage, and earthquakes.

Anyway, I did not say 'earthquake' is to be taken as a metaphor here, so it does not need to fit for pestilence, food shortage, etc. as well. Jesus used the word 4578. seismos which has more than one meaning, so it is not about a metaphorical usage but rather what meaning did he mean would literally be happening in one place after another during that time.

The hyperlink I posted was using 'earthquake' as a metaphor, but I posted that jokingly😲 because of the coincidence of what Soul Sage said on Friday and what that said on Sunday about Macron.

What though is WW3?
It is something that is planned to take place to achieve the goal of putting in place the 8th king. 'Order out of chaos!'

Putting aside Jesus' usage of seismos, what/how will people be during that time of WW3?

I thought it was very interesting the example that was given...for 'commotion':

commotion noun
1: a condition of civil unrest or insurrection
'The commotion was finally brought to an end and peace was restored.'
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unrest noun
: a disturbed or uneasy state : TURMOIL : a state or condition of extreme confusion, agitation, or commotion

insurrection noun
: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

4578. seismos
Definition: a commotion, shaking
Usage: a shaking (as an earthquake); a storm.

storm noun
1: a disturbance of the atmosphere marked by wind and usually by rain, snow, hail, sleet, or thunder and lightning
2: a sudden or violent commotion

7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and seismos in one place after another.
 
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What is the line of thought that you have in citing that when it comes to what has been asked/said about earthquakes?

The question was:



My reply was because the word 4578. seismos is used for both earthquake and great storm, could it apply to severe weather conditions in one place after another...then I added that seismos could also mean commotions like riots/civil unrest.

I mentioned that part based on this statement:



That makes since during the time of WW3/POD:

7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and riots/civil unrest in one place after another.
In a prior comment you said "I wonder if it is more than just 'earthquakes'....:unsure:

Then you said in another comment "What is the line of thought that you have in citing that when it comes to what has been asked/said about earthquakes?

Answer-excerpted from-

The powers of the heavens will be shaken>https://e-watchman.com/powers-shaken/

The purpose of the “shaking” is to gather the “precious things” of the nations—people of faith. Once gathered those precious souls will comprise the great crowd who will come out of the tribulation. Reasonably, the formation of the great crowd will occur during the tribulation. The tribulation is the “shaking.” That is evident in the context of the 21st chapter of Luke, where Jesus went on to say: “Also, there will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and its agitation. People will become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. But as these things start to occur, stand up straight and lift up your heads, because your deliverance is getting near.” — Luke 21:25-28

Even according to the Watchtower this aspect of Christ’s prophecy is not in evidence at this time. The nations are not in anguish. The symbolic sea of humanity is not roaring with agitation. People are not faint out of fear in dread of the ominous forebodings before them. The powers of the heavens have not been shaken.

Did you catch that? “The powers of the heavens will be shaken.” And Jesus connected the shaking with the nearness of deliverance.
 
I think Jesus warning of earthquakes was a literal warning. If it was a metaphor for political or social earthquakes what is the metaphor for pestilence and food shortage? It doesn’t feel right to only take part of that prophetic warning as literal and the other part metaphorically, at least to me.
What is the metaphor for pestilence and food shortage? A disease mental state of mind due to a spiritual famine brought on by their lack of faith .

pestilence of the Mind. Romans1:​

28 And just as they did not approve of holding God in accurate knowledge,+ God gave them up to a disapproved mental state,+ to do the things not fitting,+

spiritual famine Amos8:​

11 “‘Look! There are days coming,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘and I will send a famine into the land, a famine, not for bread,* and a thirst, not for water, but for hearing the words of Jehovah.+
 
In a prior comment you said "I wonder if it is more than just 'earthquakes'....:unsure:

Then you said in another comment "What is the line of thought that you have in citing that when it comes to what has been asked/said about earthquakes?

Answer-excerpted from-

The powers of the heavens will be shaken>https://e-watchman.com/powers-shaken/

The purpose of the “shaking” is to gather the “precious things” of the nations—people of faith. Once gathered those precious souls will comprise the great crowd who will come out of the tribulation. Reasonably, the formation of the great crowd will occur during the tribulation. The tribulation is the “shaking.” That is evident in the context of the 21st chapter of Luke, where Jesus went on to say: “Also, there will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and its agitation. People will become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. But as these things start to occur, stand up straight and lift up your heads, because your deliverance is getting near.” — Luke 21:25-28

Even according to the Watchtower this aspect of Christ’s prophecy is not in evidence at this time. The nations are not in anguish. The symbolic sea of humanity is not roaring with agitation. People are not faint out of fear in dread of the ominous forebodings before them. The powers of the heavens have not been shaken.

Did you catch that? “The powers of the heavens will be shaken.” And Jesus connected the shaking with the nearness of deliverance.
I appreciate your response, but the 'shaken' (4531. saleuo) there is not in reference to the 'earthquakes' (4578. seismos) during the POD in question. But you are correct in that that 'shaking' period with sun, moon, stars are connected to the nearness of deliverance.

Did you catch that?:)

Deliverance from what? The GT of the 42 months of the 8th king, not from the 'pangs of distress'. Jesus comes after the 42 months to deliver/bring relief to those that were suffering tribulation under the 8th king. That is why when they see the 'sign' of sun, moon, stars, they stand up straight and lift their heads. In contrast, those that supported the 8th king, they see the same 'sign' and they will be in fear, because while it means relief for those who refused to support the 8th king, it means destruction for those that supported him.
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8 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom; there will be earthquakes (4578. seismos) in one place after another; there will also be food shortages. These are a beginning of pangs of distress. (cf. Revelation 6:2-8)

The above POD/WW3 will give the pretext for:

13 These have one thought, so they give their power and authority to the wild beast.
5 It was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and it was given authority to act for 42 months. 7 It was permitted to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. 10 If anyone is meant for captivity, he will go into captivity. If anyone will kill with the sword, he must be killed with the sword. This is where it calls for endurance and faith on the part of the holy ones.
(cf. Revelation 6:9-11 Revelation 14:6,7,9-12)

Then after the 42 months when the 'sign' is seen by the supports/mark takers of the 8th king, they will be in fear and when seen by the refusers of the 8th king, they will lift their heads. Both know what seeing such means for them:

24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, 25 and the stars will be falling out of heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens will be shaken. (4531. saleuo) 26 And then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then he will send out the angels and will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from earth’s extremity to heaven’s extremity. <> 7 But you who suffer tribulation will be given relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels 8 in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance on those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus. 9 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength, 10 at the time when he comes to be glorified in connection with his holy ones and to be regarded in that day with wonder among all those who exercised faith, because the witness we gave met with faith among you. (cf. Revelation 6:12-17 Revelation 7:9,10,14;20:4)
 
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My reply was because the word 4578. seismos is used for both earthquake and great storm, could it apply to severe weather conditions in one place after another.

4578. seismos - a shaking (as an earthquake); a storm - a violent disturbance of the atmosphere with strong winds and usually rain, thunder, lightning, or snow - hurricane, tornado, snowstorm, hailstorm...

😲

 
You forgot war. War, pestilence, food shortage, and earthquakes.

Anyway, I did not say 'earthquake' is to be taken as a metaphor here, so it does not need to fit for pestilence, food shortage, etc. as well. Jesus used the word 4578. seismos which has more than one meaning, so it is not about a metaphorical usage but rather what meaning did he mean would literally be happening in one place after another during that time.

The hyperlink I posted was using 'earthquake' as a metaphor, but I posted that jokingly😲 because of the coincidence of what Soul Sage said on Friday and what that said on Sunday about Macron.

What though is WW3?
It is something that is planned to take place to achieve the goal of putting in place the 8th king. 'Order out of chaos!'

Putting aside Jesus' usage of seismos, what/how will people be during that time of WW3?

I thought it was very interesting the example that was given...for 'commotion':

commotion noun
1: a condition of civil unrest or insurrection
'The commotion was finally brought to an end and peace was restored.'
__________________________

unrest noun
: a disturbed or uneasy state : TURMOIL : a state or condition of extreme confusion, agitation, or commotion

insurrection noun
: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

4578. seismos
Definition: a commotion, shaking
Usage: a shaking (as an earthquake); a storm.

storm noun
1: a disturbance of the atmosphere marked by wind and usually by rain, snow, hail, sleet, or thunder and lightning
2: a sudden or violent commotion

7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and seismos in one place after another.
Never really thought about it like this. Very interesting. I believe a similar verb was used in Matthew when Jesus died. That was eseisthē, which is derived from seismos. So at least that was literal. This confirms that the same root word is used to describe a literal earthquake in the context of Jesus' death.
 
To me an earthquake is an earthquake. I don't care about the rest of there gibberish.
The word that has been translated as earthquake in its core meaning is a shaking or agitation, which can be applied to different contexts.

4578. seismos
In Matthew 8:24 the word seismos is used for the storm:

(NLT) Suddenly, a fierce storm struck the lake, with waves breaking into the boat. But Jesus was sleeping.
 
Fascinating resource Kevin, thanks for that.
That eliminates that notion.
I thought that Yellowstone was a secret weapon that would be used during Armageddon like maybe many other volcanoes around the world because those are natural forces, and the Bible says that fire and Sulphur will be used during Armageddon. Ezekiel says it in the 38th chapter. If it explodes before, that would be a true catastrophe. It would literally darken the skies, the sun and the moon, like Jesus said.
We will have to wait and see anyway.
 
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When Turkeye experienced that earthquake in 2023; While there is no absolute proof that the 6 February 2023 (7.8 Richter) earthquake was manmade, caused by ENMOD / HAARP technologies (Environmental Modification / High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program), more than circumstantial evidence is growing that we are living in a geoengineering war – where weather and climate are manipulated by highly sophisticated technologies – which are also able to create earthquakes – and are presented as “climate change”.
They have found elements that can withstand passing through earth's atmosphere without breaking up; the hypersonic metals used are the same alloy of elements capable of vast speed without breaking up targetting vulnerable earthquake zones!
That doesn’t surprise me in the least. It is strange though that no one stops to think how these laws of nature came about. They cannot even answer the question of how the two sexes evolved independently of each other - apparently, we can change sex by thought processes alone!
 
The focal point of all this is not so much the terrors of the times we live in, or how they occur whether by natural means or by the machinations of man. Jehovah said that He will bring to ruin, those ruining the earth. The earth then will survive.

The other issue not taken into account is that it is not the means of destruction that is the issue here, but the means of survival. Faith. And faith alone - whether we live or die. That requires of us not speculation, but change within ourselves. That is our priority given us. That the scriptures advise us “not to be terrified” in these times points to the fact - and it is fact - that our survival is dependant upon what we aspire to, rather than whom we are. Thus whatever goes on around us, is no concern of ours. Our struggles to survive are pointless. No one will survive unless Jehovah cuts the days short. By that time, the sea of mankind will be subdued - clearly - the beast has to arise and the final choices made as to our allegiance.

How will we survive? We will survive by the hand of Jehovah alone. Survival does clearly not entail staying alive, but in being a valued adherent of and to Jehovah. The only pathway to that, we are all well aware of.

As the judgement of man is brought down upon himself by his ignoring of the teaching of Christ, the destruction of man will not be by his own hand, or by natural means at the hand of a nameless “nature”, but by Jehovah in reply to satan.

That the earth will survive is a forgone conclusion. Jehovah had His purpose and His purpose will be fulfilled. Last time He destroyed the earth, He flooded it and had it spin-dried - the earth rotates does it not? The earth will flourish again. We will not see it thus through speculation, but by faith alone.
 
The focal point of all this is not so much the terrors of the times we live in, or how they occur whether by natural means or by the machinations of man. Jehovah said that He will bring to ruin, those ruining the earth. The earth then will survive.

The other issue not taken into account is that it is not the means of destruction that is the issue here, but the means of survival. Faith. And faith alone - whether we live or die. That requires of us not speculation, but change within ourselves. That is our priority given us. That the scriptures advise us “not to be terrified” in these times points to the fact - and it is fact - that our survival is dependant upon what we aspire to, rather than whom we are. Thus whatever goes on around us, is no concern of ours. Our struggles to survive are pointless. No one will survive unless Jehovah cuts the days short. By that time, the sea of mankind will be subdued - clearly - the beast has to arise and the final choices made as to our allegiance.

How will we survive? We will survive by the hand of Jehovah alone. Survival does clearly not entail staying alive, but in being a valued adherent of and to Jehovah. The only pathway to that, we are all well aware of.

As the judgement of man is brought down upon himself by his ignoring of the teaching of Christ, the destruction of man will not be by his own hand, or by natural means at the hand of a nameless “nature”, but by Jehovah in reply to satan.

That the earth will survive is a forgone conclusion. Jehovah had His purpose and His purpose will be fulfilled. Last time He destroyed the earth, He flooded it and had it spin-dried - the earth rotates does it not? The earth will flourish again. We will not see it thus through speculation, but by faith alone.

Scriptures to go along with your thoughts.​

Hebrews11:

6 Moreover, without faith+ it is impossible to please [him] well,+ for he that approaches God must believe that he is+ and that he becomes the rewarder*+ of those earnestly seeking him.+

Galatians 2:16

16 knowing as we do that a man is declared righteous,*a not due to works of law, but only through faithb toward Christ Jesus, even we have put our faith in Christ Jesus, that we may be declared righteous due to faith toward Christ,c and not due to works of law, because due to works of law no flesh will be declared righteous.d

Deuteronomy 20:1

20 “In case you go out to the battle against your enemies and you actually see horses and war chariots,a a people more numerous than you, you must not be afraid of them; for Jehovah your God is with you,b who brought you up out of the land of Egypt.c

Joshua 1:9

9 Have I not commanded you?a Be courageous and strong. Do not suffer shock or be terrified,b for Jehovah your God is with you wherever you go.”c

Psalm 46:1

46 God* is for us a refuge and strength,aA help that is readily to be found during distresses.b

Romans 8:31

31 What, then, shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who will be* against us?a
 

Scriptures to go along with your thoughts.​

Hebrews11:

6 Moreover, without faith+ it is impossible to please [him] well,+ for he that approaches God must believe that he is+ and that he becomes the rewarder*+ of those earnestly seeking him.+

Galatians 2:16

16 knowing as we do that a man is declared righteous,*a not due to works of law, but only through faithb toward Christ Jesus, even we have put our faith in Christ Jesus, that we may be declared righteous due to faith toward Christ,c and not due to works of law, because due to works of law no flesh will be declared righteous.d

Deuteronomy 20:1

20 “In case you go out to the battle against your enemies and you actually see horses and war chariots,a a people more numerous than you, you must not be afraid of them; for Jehovah your God is with you,b who brought you up out of the land of Egypt.c

Joshua 1:9

9 Have I not commanded you?a Be courageous and strong. Do not suffer shock or be terrified,b for Jehovah your God is with you wherever you go.”c

Psalm 46:1

46 God* is for us a refuge and strength,aA help that is readily to be found during distresses.b

Romans 8:31

31 What, then, shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who will be* against us?a
Thanks Kevin. It’s a warm feeling to have a personal librarian on hand to fill in my scriptures for me where my memory once was!! 🤣
 
Jesus said that there would be earthquakes in one place after another in his prophetic speech about the end times in the Gospels. I am curious if those here believe that these earthquakes occur prior to WW3, or during? Yes there have, and are, earthquakes in one place after another throughout the world right now, however Jesus' prophecy is specifically dealing with the timeframe of when 'nation rises against nation, and kingdom against kingdom', which is going to envelop the whole world soon. Do you think that a powerful weapon(H.A.A.R.P?) will be used to create these earthquakes which has been alluded to in many circles?

Also, just as an observation. It seems this forum is looking for WW3 to break out any time. I do as well considering the events that are unfolding, however aren't there a few things that have to happen from a prophetic standpoint before WW3 erupts? First, doesn't the King of the North have to be subjected back by the ships of Kittim, and as well the disgusting thing must be placed and the constant feature be removed? I thought these things were prior to the Great Tribulation(WW3), which would mean that although it seems we are very close to WW3, we must stay awake to these things that are going to occur before world war III breaks out.
Can't speak to all of what you said but the earthquakes may not be literal.


Last time I saw statistics going back as far as earthquakes were predicted, there were no appreciable increase since 1914. Which is another nail in the 1914 coffin. When the actual time of the end comes real physical earthquakes may figure prominently.
 
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