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Nomex said:
No, I watched things like the Munsters, Adams Family, Andy Griffith, Gomer Pyle a little, Little House on the Prairie, Miami Vice, Big Valley stuff like that. I don't think I can be accused of ever watching any Soap Opera on purpose! Unless you consider Big Valley and Bonanza soap operas. I did watch Freinds a little and Seinfeld mainly because Friends was on before Seinfeld, and they were all about my age at the time. Those shows were on when I was in my mid to late 20's. But I know enough about them, to know what you are talking about.
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I LOVED Little House on the Prairie 💕
 
Nomex said:
Little House on the Prairie
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I was and am a Little House fan for the family values it tried to capture. One doesn't see anything like that coming out of the big three these days (ABC, NBC, and CBS). It wasn't until I was in my late 30s that I even considered The Waltons, but it was a decent show, too. Cool that Ralph Waite was a believer, but played as a character who saw no need for religious pomp and circumstance, although he would occasionally be seen in a church scene in the show.

Little House, for all the wholesomeness, did not reflect the actual values of ol' Michael Landon, tho. Not a believer, but he played one on TV. Anyone ever see The Loneliest Runner? Was probably a Made-for-TV movie on NBC, if my memory is right here.
 
Bk Kevin said:
If the governing body over at the Watchtower would stop focusing on their outward appearance which consists of man-made ritualistic rules /conformity like the Pharisees of yesterday perhaps things would have turned out a lot better.

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In the Bible, the phrase "clean the inside of the cup" is a metaphor used by Jesus to criticize the Pharisees for their hypocrisy. It means focusing on outward appearances of righteousness while neglecting inner purity and spiritual growth.

Explanation:
  • Matthew 23:25-26 and Luke 11:39-41: describe Jesus rebuking the Pharisees for cleaning the outside of their cups and dishes while ignoring the greed and wickedness within.

  • The "cup" symbolizes a person's heart or inner being, while the "outside" represents outward actions and appearances.

  • Jesus emphasizes that true righteousness comes from within: a clean heart and a genuine relationship with God are more important than mere outward conformity to religious rules.

  • The Pharisees were focused on external rituals and traditions, neglecting the importance of inner transformation and a sincere faith.

  • The message is relevant today: We should strive for genuine spiritual growth and integrity, rather than focusing solely on how we appear to others.
In essence, the phrase "clean the inside of the cup" is a call to self-reflection and genuine spiritual transformation, rather than merely focusing on outward appearances.
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I don’t think they have any interest in self-awareness. They are too focused on telling other people what to do.

A quote from their own Watchtower study tip from March 2025, “Use the Mirror Properly”.

“The disciple James compared the Bible to a mirror that allows us to see our inner person. (Jas. 1:22-25) How can we properly use the Bible as a mirror?

Read it carefully. If we just glance at ourselves in a mirror, we might overlook some significant flaw. To see aspects of our inner person that need attention, we do well to peer into God’s Word by reading it carefully.

Look more at yourself than at others. A mirror held at an angle might expose someone else’s defects. Similarly, we could use the Bible to identify someone else’s faults. But this would not necessarily help us correct our own.”
 
a believer said:
did not reflect the actual values of ol' Michael Landon, tho. Not a believer, but he played one on TV. Anyone ever see The Loneliest Runner? Was probably a Made-for-TV movie on NBC,
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I saw that TV movie too when I was a kid. However, Michael's son made a documentary recently that I watched, that painted him as a conflicted man, who really was a good person at heart and why he made shows like Bonanza and Little House which reflected that. When I got done watching it, I couldn't help but look forward to him being resurrected. I started re-watching the show with my daughter a few years ago, we made to the 3rd season I think before interest fell off, but it's is such a heart warming show, I had a tear in my eye for almost every episode. But they may be in part the nostalgia of watching that with my family as a kid, many of whom are dead now.
 
Nomex said:
I saw that TV movie too when I was a kid. However, Michael's son made a documentary recently that I watched, that painted him as a conflicted man, who really was a good person at heart and why he made shows like Bonanza and Little House which reflected that. When I got done watching it, I couldn't help but look forward to him being resurrected. I started re-watching the show with my daughter a few years ago, we made to the 3rd season I think before interest fell off, but it's is such a heart warming show, I had a tear in my eye for almost every episode. But they may be in part the nostalgia of watching that with my family as a kid, many of whom are dead now.
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It's not just nostalgia Nomex, it's also something to look forward to too 😍
 
Proverbs 14 v 15 said:
It's not just nostalgia Nomex, it's also something to look forward to too
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I was referring to tearing up, and so I was going to dispute looking forward to that, but then I realize there will most certainly be a whole lot of tears of joy when we welcome our loved ones back, and when we see friends welcome there loved ones back.
 
Nomex said:
I was referring to tearing up, and so I was going to dispute looking forward to that, but then I realize there will most certainly be a whole lot of tears of joy when we welcome our loved ones back, and when we see friends welcome there loved ones back.
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Exactly 😍 another 'merican Blockbuster that always makes me cry is Pollyanna, the original one with Hayley Mills, what a wonderful film it is 🥰
 
SusanB said:
And western movies. I love the westerns.
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Not a big fan, personally, when it comes to westerns. But I've seen a few that stuck with me, too, so I can't say I've written the genre off.

Shane is probably my favorite western. But then I'm always a sucker for story of alienation and redemption. ;)

—Timothy
 
SusanB said:
Job 1:4-5: “Each of his sons would hold a banquet at his house on his own set day. They would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.”

Family celebrations for various reasons or whims have always occurred and will continue to occur. Family love is enough on its own to celebrate and invite others to join us.
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Nosotras celebramos el día en que me convertí en madre. Mi regalo, mis hijas! Cómo no voy a dar gracias celebrando ese día si mi Dios me bendijo con el don de la procreación? 😍
 
SusanB said:
And western movies. I love the westerns.
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I watched "Rooster Cogburn" recently, which was John Wayne's last film with Katherine Hepburn, which was sequel to True Grit. I remember when it was released my Mom mentioning it was his last film, which must have been after he died. I think he died only 2 or three years later. It wasn't his highest ranked film, but it's still a good movie and a good story IMO! But who doesn't like John Wayne. And I love Clint Eastwood. My dad looked just like him, dimples and all, they could have passed for brothers and they were about the same age. @a believer

There are some good films in that Shane genre. I really like Robert Taylor, he made a couple of really good westerns, Hombre is fantastic with Paul Newman, my favorite line from that movie is when he's riding in the stagecoach and they don't know he lived with the Indians, and this is the dialog,,,
  • John Russell: You even been hungry, lady? Not just ready for supper. Hungry enough so that your belly swells?
  • Audra Favor: I wouldn't care how hungry I got. I know I wouldn't eat one of those camp dogs.
  • John Russell: You'd eat it. You'd fight for the bones, too.
  • Audra Favor: Have you ever eaten a dog, Mr. Russell?
  • John Russell: Eaten one and lived like one.
  • Audra Favor: Dear me.

    Can't write better dialog than that...just classic! It is an excellent movie too, been a while since I have seen it, might have to watch it again soon.
 
Nomex said:
I watched "Rooster Cogburn" recently, which was John Wayne's last film with Katherine Hepburn, which was sequel to True Grit. I remember when it was released my Mom mentioning it was his last film, which must have been after he died. I think he died only 2 or three years later. It wasn't his highest ranked film, but it's still a good movie and a good story IMO! But who doesn't like John Wayne. And I love Clint Eastwood. My dad looked just like him, dimples and all, they could have passed for brothers and they were about the same age. @a believer

There are some good films in that Shane genre. I really like Robert Taylor, he made a couple of really good westerns, Hombre is fantastic with Paul Newman, my favorite line from that movie is when he's riding in the stagecoach and they don't know he lived with the Indians, and this is the dialog,,,
  • John Russell: You even been hungry, lady? Not just ready for supper. Hungry enough so that your belly swells?
  • Audra Favor: I wouldn't care how hungry I got. I know I wouldn't eat one of those camp dogs.
  • John Russell: You'd eat it. You'd fight for the bones, too.
  • Audra Favor: Have you ever eaten a dog, Mr. Russell?
  • John Russell: Eaten one and lived like one.
  • Audra Favor: Dear me.

    Can't write better dialog than that...just classic! It is an excellent movie too, been a while since I have seen it, might have to watch it again soon.
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The old ones are the best aren't they? They had "soul" to them.. And, do you look like your dad Nomex? 😜
 
Nomex said:
I watched "Rooster Cogburn" recently, which was John Wayne's last film with Katherine Hepburn, which was sequel to True Grit. I remember when it was released my Mom mentioning it was his last film, which must have been after he died. I think he died only 2 or three years later. It wasn't his highest ranked film, but it's still a good movie and a good story IMO! But who doesn't like John Wayne. And I love Clint Eastwood. My dad looked just like him, dimples and all, they could have passed for brothers and they were about the same age. @a believer

There are some good films in that Shane genre. I really like Robert Taylor, he made a couple of really good westerns, Hombre is fantastic with Paul Newman, my favorite line from that movie is when he's riding in the stagecoach and they don't know he lived with the Indians, and this is the dialog,,,
  • John Russell: You even been hungry, lady? Not just ready for supper. Hungry enough so that your belly swells?
  • Audra Favor: I wouldn't care how hungry I got. I know I wouldn't eat one of those camp dogs.
  • John Russell: You'd eat it. You'd fight for the bones, too.
  • Audra Favor: Have you ever eaten a dog, Mr. Russell?
  • John Russell: Eaten one and lived like one.
  • Audra Favor: Dear me.

    Can't write better dialog than that...just classic! It is an excellent movie too, been a while since I have seen it, might have to watch it again soon.
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Clint Eastwood: High Plains Drifter. Oh yeah!!! :cool:

Always great in those Man with no name roles, although I skipped over the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly movies.

Two Mules for Sister Sara wasn't shabby either, now that I think about it. But felt long.
 
SusanB said:
I don’t think they have any interest in self-awareness. They are too focused on telling other people what to do.

A quote from their own Watchtower study tip from March 2025, “Use the Mirror Properly”.

“The disciple James compared the Bible to a mirror that allows us to see our inner person. (Jas. 1:22-25) How can we properly use the Bible as a mirror?

Read it carefully. If we just glance at ourselves in a mirror, we might overlook some significant flaw. To see aspects of our inner person that need attention, we do well to peer into God’s Word by reading it carefully.

Look more at yourself than at others. A mirror held at an angle might expose someone else’s defects. Similarly, we could use the Bible to identify someone else’s faults. But this would not necessarily help us correct our own.”
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Yes Jesus has indicated as much.

23 Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples,+ saying: “The scribes+ and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses.+ Therefore all the things they tell+ YOU, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds,+ for they say but do not perform.

Matthew 23:​

 
a believer said:
Clint Eastwood: High Plains Drifter. Oh yeah!!!
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One of my favorite one liners from Clint Eastwood is from "Joe Kidd". He's get taken prisoner, and they have him locked up in a church, and he's sleeping under the Bell Tower I guess it is, and there's a guard up there pacing back and forth. A priest brings Clint a pistol, he climbs up the ladder with the gun, then realized the guy is walking right over the trap door in the floor of the guard tower, so Clint times it just right flings the trap door open, and the guy falls like 80 feet or something. The priest is down there and checks him, and says to Joe Kidd, "He's dead." And Clint says, "I believe you." Its just so funny I'm laughing typing it. It's like you shouldn't laugh but you can't help it!
 
Nomex said:
I look a lot like my dad, but I do not have those pronounce dimples. I looked the most like my dad than any of his sons. I have one brother whose naturally blonde too.
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I observe people and their family for passed on genetics. I always thought it interesting in relation to our situation here on earth. My brother looks like my mom but with dark auburn hair from our father's side. I am almost a mirror image of my father at a certain age but I had blonde red hair. My nose confused the whole family because I have an Italian nose. My mom said when I was born, some of the uncles shrugged their shoulders and went back to the waiting room.
 
I was wrong when I said Gerrit Losch made this statement 2 or 3 years ago. It’s in this document that was submitted at the Australian Royal Commission in 2015. Here Is the document and his responses given here below ⬇️

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BagdadBill said:
I observe people and their family for passed on genetics. I always thought it interesting in relation to our situation here on earth. My brother looks like my mom but with dark auburn hair from our father's side. I am almost a mirror image of my father at a certain age but I had blonde red hair. My nose confused the whole family because I have an Italian nose. My mom said when I was born, some of the uncles shrugged their shoulders and went back to the waiting room.
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I found a photo of my paternal grandmother who died when I was 5 years old. In this photo she was around 16 years old. All I had previously seen of her were ones in her 60s or 70s, shortly before she died. When I saw it, my jaw dropped. I looked so much like her when I was a teenager. But now, the older I get the more I look like my mother.
Now my son looks like his great grandfather only with red hair instead of brown.
I find it interesting to see the similarities within families too. Almost all my cousins, male and female on my dad's side, have the same nose. Dominant gene unfortunately. 🫤
I can't wait for the resurrection, to be able to see what all the ancestors look like. What fun!
 
Nomex said:
One of my favorite one liners from Clint Eastwood is from "Joe Kidd". He's get taken prisoner, and they have him locked up in a church, and he's sleeping under the Bell Tower I guess it is, and there's a guard up there pacing back and forth. A priest brings Clint a pistol, he climbs up the ladder with the gun, then realized the guy is walking right over the trap door in the floor of the guard tower, so Clint times it just right flings the trap door open, and the guy falls like 80 feet or something. The priest is down there and checks him, and says to Joe Kidd, "He's dead." And Clint says, "I believe you." Its just so funny I'm laughing typing it. It's like you shouldn't laugh but you can't help it!
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Brilliant! Nothing like droll, dead-pan humor to carry the day. I might need to pull out my Eastwood movie collection now and have a look-see at this one.
 
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