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People don't realize that since the 2008 crash, the US stock market has increased fivefold. That is because they reduced interest rates to zero, and the big gambling houses essentially had free money to pump the markets up. Obviously, the underlying economy did not grow correspondingly. So, it is just a massive bubble, and people have been conditioned to expect it to keep growing.
 
Watchman said:
People don't realize that since the 2008 crash, the US stock market has increased fivefold. That is because they reduced interest rates to zero, and the big gambling houses essentially had free money to pump the markets up. Obviously, the underlying economy did not grow correspondingly. So, it is just a massive bubble, and people have been conditioned to expect it to keep growing.
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So we are looking at a 2008 crash! Just trying to understand all of this. Quite confusing to be honest.
 
Pattie29 said:
So we are looking at a 2008 crash! Just trying to understand all of this. Quite confusing to be honest.
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It depends. There can be an orderly sell-off, as it appears is happening now. Or some highly leveraged players can get blown up, causing a cascading crash of defaults. Trump is expecting the central banks to start lowering interest rates to pump it back up. But the owners of the money system might see it as an opportunity to sink Trump and the USA.
 
Watchman said:
It depends. There can be an orderly sell-off, as it appears is happening now. Or some highly leveraged players can get blown up, causing a cascading crash of defaults. Trump is expecting the central banks to start lowering interest rates to pump it back up. But the owners of the money system might see it as an opportunity to sink Trump and the
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Yeah, I get what you’re saying. It’s just that my mind always goes to that part in the Bible: “when they’re saying peace and security, then sudden destruction comes…” You know? But this doesn’t really feel like that kind of moment. It’s more like a slow burn than a sudden crash. But it does show how fragile this system really is.
 
The stock market is over-rated as most American's are not even vested in it. Most people just want good jobs.
  • The richest Americans own the vast majority of the US stock market, according to Fed data.
  • The top 10% of Americans held 93% of all stocks, the highest level ever recorded.
  • Meanwhile, the bottom 50% of Americans held just 1% of all stocks in the third quarter of 2023.
The wealthiest Americans have never owned so much of the stock market as now, with the top 10% now holding a record 93% of US equities, according to Federal Reserve data.
 
Brother Obvious said:
The stock market is over-rated as most American's are not even vested in it. Most people just want good jobs.
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Public companies are capitalized by their stocks and bonds. If companies cut back or fail altogether, that means no jobs. Most people didn't own stocks in 1929 when the stock market crashed, but they suffered the effects of 50% unemployment during the Great Depression that followed the crash.
 
1 year ago today the Dow was where it is today. Not exactly a crash of stupendous proportion. The bottom feeders will soon make their appearance. Time will tell.
 
Brother Obvious said:
1 year ago today the Dow was where it is today. Not exactly a crash of stupendous proportion. The bottom feeders will soon make their appearance. Time will tell.
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I didn't say it was a crash.
 
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Watchman said:
It depends. There can be an orderly sell-off, as it appears is happening now. Or some highly leveraged players can get blown up, causing a cascading crash of defaults. Trump is expecting the central banks to start lowering interest rates to pump it back up. But the owners of the money system might see it as an opportunity to sink Trump and the USA.
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Even if the stock market goes up higher than before it wont matter if the BRICS nation devalue the dollar with their own currency. You could have 100 million dollars in the stock market but if the dollar is worthless it doesn’t matter if the stock market crashes or not.
 
Melinda Riling said:
Even if the stock market goes up higher than before it wont matter if the BRICS nation devalue the dollar with their own currency. You could have 100 million dollars in the stock market but if the dollar is worthless it doesn’t matter if the stock market crashes or not.
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You are right. The stock market is a relatively small part of the overall financial system. But everything is intertwined, and most of the financialization is opaque. This is an interesting article on ZeroHedge

After The Tariff Earthquake | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com www.zerohedge.com
 
Pattie29 said:
Yeah, I get what you’re saying. It’s just that my mind always goes to that part in the Bible: “when they’re saying peace and security, then sudden destruction comes…” You know? But this doesn’t really feel like that kind of moment. It’s more like a slow burn than a sudden crash. But it does show how fragile this system really is.
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I'm subscribed to the idea that the financial collapse will not be a "slow burn" but an uncontrolled sell off in the debt market. "nobody knows till everybody knows" Then everyone rushes for the door to empty their money out of the banks that they should already have stashed elsewhere.
 
Melinda Riling said:
Even if the stock market goes up higher than before it wont matter
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Assuming the stock market mattered anyway, other than a tool for punters to make a buck or three. The stock market does not appear to be a reliable gauge of the health of the economy. BTW the "money" or fiat is already fake.
 
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Everything is peaceful here in my home. I know nothing about money markets, and nothing about big business, and even less about politics, and owe not a thing to anyone in monetary terms. If only I could bake a sourdough loaf without having a mental breakdown everything would be fine. How did they manage this 2000 years ago faultlessly day after day?
 
Edith said:
What a disgusting language, if you can't express yourself in another way, maybe you should keep your opinion to yourself🤮😡
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Here is a good retort…”It ails me to inform you that your opinions, perspectives, comments, thoughts, musings or any other form of information dissemination that may take place from your vocal or cognitive senses regarding me are of no utility whatsoever.” Here it is in German - it is a gift made for rebuking people because so many of their words have a “double entendre” in English, if you’ll pardon my French! I think if you call anyone an “uberlegungen” no matter what it means, it just seems politely right! Sounds like the sort of thing someone might call you “Up north” in England. Proverbs would know!! 🤣

🤣 Hier ist eine gute Erwiderung... "Ich muss Sie darüber informieren, dass Ihre Meinungen, Perspektiven, Kommentare, Gedanken, Überlegungen oder jede andere Form der Informationsverbreitung, die aus Ihren stimmlichen oder kognitiven Sinnen in Bezug auf mich stattfinden kann, keinerlei Nutzen sind." 🤣
 
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