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Maybe next time Mick, or am I being rhetoricalI was going to reply with this scripture to Outcast but when I noticed it was a rhetorical reply I held back.
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Maybe next time Mick, or am I being rhetoricalI was going to reply with this scripture to Outcast but when I noticed it was a rhetorical reply I held back.
Those wonderful scriptures once absorbed stay with us, blessed we are Summit.Maybe next time Mick, or am I being rhetorical
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When our Prince arrives and annoints princes to rule for justice, each one providing a hiding place from the wind Isa321,2. When these three and half years find conclusion that will see the demise of the destroyer Isa33:1. When Jehovah pours out His Spirit Isa32:15, that's when fulfillment of Christ's words come to the fore..' John 14:12 "Most truly I say to you who ever exercises faith in me will also do the works tha I do and he will do works greater than these". Those works included healing the sick, feeding the hungry. These things will occur in what is termed the wilderness Isa 32:15,16 "Justice will reside in the wilderness and righteousness will dwell in the orchard" Where have we heard these words before? In Revelation 12:6 "And the woman fled into the wildrness where she has a place prepared by God and where they would feed her for 1,260 days" Surely everything to hold on and pray for!Those wonderful scriptures once absorbed stay with us, blessed we are Summit.
My old friend of over 50yr who we have fought over scripture to no avail even parting company for over a decade because of resentment to each other's beliefs. I am Jehovah's witness and he is a Trinitarian: Wonderful last night where we agreed on scriptures that said will come a time when everyone will know I am Jehovah or in his bible the Lord! Also the reference to when Christ comes again He will set matters straight! Peace between us at last.When our Prince arrives and annoints princes to rule for justice, each one providing a hiding place from the wind Isa321,2. When these three and half years find conclusion that will see the demise of the destroyer Isa33:1. When Jehovah pours out His Spirit Isa32:15, that's when fulfillment of Christ's words come to the fore..' John 14:12 "Most truly I say to you who ever exercises faith in me will also do the works tha I do and he will do works greater than these". Those works included healing the sick, feeding the hungry. These things will occur in what is termed the wilderness Isa 32:15,16 "Justice will reside in the wilderness and righteousness will dwell in the orchard" Where have we heard these words before? In Revelation 12:6 "And the woman fled into the wildrness where she has a place prepared by God and where they would feed her for 1,260 days" Surely everything to hold on and pray for!
Obviously we know we're right about the trinity... but trinitarians feel the same confidence in their belief. So my son and I have agreed to wait on Jehovah. Unlike most Catholics, he knows Jehovah's name which is a good thing. I told him that if I'm wrong, I have no problem admitting it, and he said the same. It's not about how much we know, or how right we are about things... it's about faith, humility and meekness. I've always had an overabundance of faith thankfully, but I lacked humility and meekness for most of my life. I keep telling Jehovah I don't trust my own conclusions or thoughts, so if he wants me to do or know something... I need to know it's from him and not my own intrusive thoughts.My old friend of over 50yr who we have fought over scripture to no avail even parting company for over a decade because of resentment to each other's beliefs. I am Jehovah's witness and he is a Trinitarian: Wonderful last night where we agreed on scriptures that said will come a time when everyone will know I am Jehovah or in his bible the Lord! Also the reference to when Christ comes again He will set matters straight! Peace between us at last.
I'm glad to be learning truths about mysel too Carl: It's good we have been given the time, and that were not scared of the truth about ourselves and willing to learn.....I enjoy your honesty brother.Obviously we know we're right about the trinity... but trinitarians feel the same confidence in their belief. So my son and I have agreed to wait on Jehovah. Unlike most Catholics, he knows Jehovah's name which is a good thing. I told him that if I'm wrong, I have no problem admitting it, and he said the same. It's not about how much we know, or how right we are about things... it's about faith, humility and meekness. I've always had an overabundance of faith thankfully, but I lacked humility and meekness for most of my life. I keep telling Jehovah I don't trust my own conclusions or thoughts, so if he wants me to do or know something... I need to know it's from him and not my own intrusive thoughts.
I really like this conclusion Carl. I think of the decades I’ve been in the “truth” where I would argue and debate for hours with infidels and be totally convinced of my/our position yet now I hang my head. I wonder how I was so easily led by the .org and I always thought of myself as a big picture man and rational thinker. Vanity eh?! Good thing the clot shot/stroke poke woke me up. 😳🤓life. I keep telling Jehovah I don't trust my own conclusions or thoughts, so if he wants me to do or know something... I need to know it's from him and not my own intrusive thoughts.
I think Jehovah’s in the process of waking people up and refining them/us right now. Everyone is proceeding at their own pace… but I think there’s going to be a jump in the awakening process just before Jesus returns.I really like this conclusion Carl. I think of the decades I’ve been in the “truth” where I would argue and debate for hours with infidels and be totally convinced of my/our position yet now I hang my head. I wonder how I was so easily led by the .org and I always thought of myself as a big picture man and rational thinker. Vanity eh?! Good thing the clot shot/stroke poke woke me up. 😳🤓
Seems that way to me too. It seems with all the horrors in the world it's lighting a "God seeking" flame. The flame is burning really, really dirty right now but as time goes on, it will become cleaner. We may see Jehovah's name used more and more as people wake up. That would be a really clear indicator to me. Jehovah's name is the most important name in the universe. As Ezekiel says in many places; The nations shall know that my name is Jehovah.I think Jehovah’s in the process of waking people up and refining them/us right now. Everyone is proceeding at their own pace… but I think there’s going to be a jump in the awakening process just before Jesus returns.
I was able to witness today with a woman in town. I didn't get into the Truth, but I made sure she knew God's name. I do it in a way that doesn't come off as me trying to convert them... she's a non-practicing Catholic. I just plant the seed so that when the time comes they'll know His name.Seems that way to me too. It seems with all the horrors in the world it's lighting a "God seeking" flame. The flame is burning really, really dirty right now but as time goes on, it will become cleaner. We may see Jehovah's name used more and more as people wake up. That would be a really clear indicator to me. Jehovah's name is the most important name in the universe. As Ezekiel says in many places; The nations shall know that my name is Jehovah.
Is knowing the name key to salvation or is knowing the person behind the name the key?I was able to witness today with a woman in town ... I made sure she knew God's name ... I just plant the seed so that when the time comes they'll know His name.
Introductions are important. By the way, what's your name?Is knowing the name key to salvation or is knowing the person behind the name the key?
When you don't have the chance to get into an in depth Bible study, I feel it's important to educate people on God's name. Helping others to the Truth is a tag team effort. Now this woman knows God's name, so the next person who witnesses to her can go a little further if she's interested.Is knowing the name key to salvation or is knowing the person behind the name the key?
Simply telling people "Hey, you know God's name is Jehovah?" Doesn't quite cut it. Paul's an example:Introductions are important. By the way, what's your name?![]()
Hi Jim. An introduction is just that...an introduction. My name is...and then it goes on from there.Simply telling people "Hey, you know God's name is Jehovah?" Doesn't quite cut it. Paul's an example:
“Men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are very religious; 23 for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription:
TO THE UNKNOWN GOD.
Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: 24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth."
So yes, I introductions are important, but it needs to be followed up by introducing the one behind the name.
BTW ... my name is Jim
Yes thats a good feeling when you can share his name regardless of the outcome. Hopefully the demons shudder everytime somebody uses it. It's great when the person responds in a positive manner but typically when most people hear that name they immediately build a wall of doubt because they associate it to the WT, rather than God himself. I bet when you told that woman Jehovah's name she instantly thought of the group called Jehovahs Witnesses, instead of actually focusing on his name. I suppose when you think about it, this is merely another reason why the WT is Gods organization, because even the people of the world look at the group of people known as the witnesses and associate it with the word Jehovah, even though they don't really understand the value that name has. There is no other group in the world that can say that when you hear Gods name, you associate it with that group, except for one JW's. Of course this isn't proof, but it certainly lends strong support to it for those who question the WT's importance within Gods arrangement.When you don't have the chance to get into an in depth Bible study, I feel it's important to educate people on God's name. Helping others to the Truth is a tag team effort. Now this woman knows God's name, so the next person who witnesses to her can go a little further if she's interested.