Has the Watchtower been infiltrated by Freemasons?

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When do you think the infiltration began in the organization (what year)? How extensive do you think it is? By whom? The UN? Freemasons?
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Evidently, masons have been part of the Bethel family from the beginning. There are some who claim that C.T. Russell was a mason. Although he denied it there is no question that he was thoroughly familiar with masonic teaching. Once in a public speech Russell referred to Christians as temple builders in a spiritual sense and used various terminology peculiar to masonry. (I cannot remember where the transcript of his talk is archived on the Internet.) Certainly, Russell's fascination with pyramidology and the use of occult symbols like the winged sun and the cross and crown indicates that occultists influenced him to some extent and he welcomed their presence.

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British Freemasonry has been a tool of the British Empire to infiltrate every institution of influence. Pseudo-religions like Mormonism and Scientology were created by Masons. the late Billy Grahm was undoubtedly the most popular and influential Evangelical preacher who met with every American president since Eisenhower and was a Mason. Grahm was even awarded an honorary knighthood by the Queen, presumably for services rendered to the Crown.

Here is an article on the topic

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25 men were bowing down to the sun

“So he brought me to the inner courtyard of the house of Jehovah. There at the entrance of the temple of Jehovah, between the porch and the altar, were about 25 men with their backs to the temple of Jehovah and their faces to the east; they were bowing down to
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How do you think you can recognize who is an infiltrator? By hand signs? Rings? Attitude towards others (unchristian/unloving)?
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Masons do not wish to be recognized, except by other members of the cult. Evidently, there is a masonic handshake and ring. They leave their tell-tale symbols about too. For example, the set of the Inside Story series displays a version of the Masonic logo that the Church of the Latter Day Saints and Scientology uses.
In the first century, Paul outed certain men whom he dubbed "superfine apostles." The members of the congregation were evidently unaware that Satan was using these men to infiltrate and influence them. That is why Paul said that they were fake apostles and deceitful workers who had merely disguised themselves as ministers of righteousness in imitation of the Devil who disguises himself as an angel of light. The Masonic cultists do the same thing. They wear a disguise and appear as ministers, no doubt even as anointed elders.

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Can you make sacrifices to Baal and be saved?

A continuation of the Jeremiah series There were many gods worshipped in ancient times. The Bible names a few, such as Molech, Chemosh, Dagon, Nisroch, and a plethora of baals, which simply meant lord in Hebrew. Just among the Jews, Jehovah accused them of having as many gods as there were cities in
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How do you think that they will betray the true Christians later? Turn them into the police to be incarcerated?
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It is hard to say. It is noteworthy though, that Bethel keeps a record of every publisher, every elder and pioneer, and every person who partakes at the Memorial. In other words, the names and addresses of virtually every one of Jehovah's Witnesses could be handed over to authorities. One would expect that Satan will be particularly interested in rounding up those who profess to be anointed in order to sift them as wheat, to quote Jesus. Such a thing might seem implausible now but under martial law every legal protection will be removed. Perhaps there are advantages to being disfellowshipped? ;)
 
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What do you think the "fall of the WT" will look like? Confiscation/destruction of the buildings and imprisonment of the leaders? On what charge? When do you see this happening?
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The collapse of the financial system would pretty much shut down the Watchtower, at least as far as being a book and magazine publishing company. And during a time of war, Jehovah's Witnesses always come under scrutiny because of refusing conscription. During the First World War the leaders of the WT were accused of sedition and actually convicted and sent to prison. During the Second World War hundreds of JW men went to prison for refusing military conscription.

In the aftermath of the collapse of the money system, it appears that Satan will impose an official cryptosystem that will require some sort of loyalty oath intended to compromise the faith of Jehovah's people. Otherwise, holdouts will be locked out of the system and unable to buy or sell.
 
What do you think the false information will be from the WT in the time of the end? To take the mark of the beast? That the UN NWO is actually really God's expression of his kingdom on earth and that transhumanism/gene editing is his manner of raising mankind to perfection and eternal life?
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The Watchtower is conditioning Jehovah's Witnesses to look to the Governing Body to receive life-saving instructions in the future, and even if those instructions appear to be irrational and nonsensical, they must be obeyed. No doubt whatever instructions that will be forthcoming during the critical hour of test will not be life-saving. Just the opposite. The fact that Jesus specifically warned his followers not to believe claims that the Christ is in the wilderness or in the inner chambers indicates that Satan will use his Masonic tools to try to mislead the chosen ones. Most likely some form of black magic will be employed. After all, it will be the Devil's last chance to oppose Christ before he is taken out.
 
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When the GB promoted the covid-19 vaccines I said to an elder that I am sure our GB has been infiltrated by false brothers. And yes, considering that Big Pharma is owned by the Rockefellers who are Freemasons it is very possible that the false brothers are also Freemasons and keen to promote the vaccine as it is in line with the Freemasons goal to depopulate the planet and implement a New World Order.
The covid vaccine is a bioweapon and not "medicine to prevent or cure."
 
Little River said:
Anyone heard of Project Blue Beam?
Project Blue Beam can fake the return of Jesus through holographics.
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There are a few threads on PBB. Here is one

But Satan does not need technology to exert his power. The demons can use their own power through humans to conjure up real things. Remember in the instance of the confrontation between Moses and Pharoah the magic-practicing priests were able to conjure a snake and they also duplicated Moses' first three miracles, including conjuring frogs and gnats by using their secret black arts. During Job's trial, the Devil made fire fall from the sky.
 
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There are a few threads on PBB. Here is one

But Satan does not need technology to exert his power. The demons can use their own power through humans to conjure up real things. Remember in the instance of the confrontation between Moses and Pharoah the magic-practicing priests were able to conjure a snake and they also duplicated Moses' first three miracles, including conjuring frogs and gnats by using their secret black arts. During Job's trial, the Devil made fire fall from the sky.
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Thank you for bringing that thread up! It's good to dig for some gems & this one should be handy!
 
Watchman said:
Evidently, masons have been part of the Bethel family from the beginning. There are some who claim that C.T. Russell was a mason. Although he denied it there is no question that he was thoroughly familiar with masonic teaching. Once in a public speech Russell referred to Christians as temple builders in a spiritual sense and used various terminology peculiar to masonry. (I cannot remember where the transcript of his talk is archived on the Internet.) Certainly, Russell's fascination with pyramidology and the use of occult symbols like the winged sun and the cross and crown indicates that occultists influenced him to some extent and he welcomed their presence.

View attachment 3974British Freemasonry has been a tool of the British Empire to infiltrate every institution of influence. Pseudo-religions like Mormonism and Scientology were created by Masons. the late Billy Grahm was undoubtedly the most popular and influential Evangelical preacher who met with every American president since Eisenhower and was a Mason. Grahm was even awarded an honorary knighthood by the Queen, presumably for services rendered to the Crown.

Here is an article on the topic

e-watchman.com

25 men were bowing down to the sun

“So he brought me to the inner courtyard of the house of Jehovah. There at the entrance of the temple of Jehovah, between the porch and the altar, were about 25 men with their backs to the temple of Jehovah and their faces to the east; they were bowing down to
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It's best not to quickly assume.

Though Russell was indeed familiar with some aspects of Freemasonry, he had also, on a couple of occasions, spoken against it. . . Even calling such Societies and Orders, "grievous evils."

(He had also referred to them all as, "parts of Babylon," and even suggested that believers 'have nothing whatever to do with any of these semi-religious societies, clubs, orders, churches).

It's intrigues me that the majority tend to not even mention these particular quotes, regarding Brother Russell.
(These quotes should be considered.)

There is more evidence that he wasn't a Mason, than there is, that he potentially was.... Therefore, he should not be accused of being one.


"This brings before us the whole question of orders, societies, etc., and what privileges the New Creation has in connection with such organizations. Is it right for them to be members of these societies? We answer that while Church associations are purely religious, and labor and beneficial organizations in general are purely secular, there are still other orders which combine the religious and the secular features. As we understand the matter, for instance, the Free Masons, Odd Fellows, Knights of Pythias, etc., perform certain rites and ceremonies of a religious kind... We place upon one level all of those who have any religious ceremonies, teachings, etc., and consider them all as parts of Babylon ... We admonish the New Creation to have nothing whatever to do with any of these semi-religious societies, clubs, orders, churches; but to "Come out from amongst them, and be ye separate, and touch not the unclean thing." (`2 Cor. 6:17`)" —1904; "The New Creation", pp. 580-581

"In proportion as such societies consume valuable time in foolish, senseless rites and ceremonies, and in substituting the worship of their officers, and the use of words and symbols which have no meaning to them, for the worship of God, in his appointed way—through Christ, and according to knowledge and the spirit of a sound mind—in that proportion these societies are grievous evils, regardless of the financial gains or losses connected with membership in them." — June, 1895, Zion's Watch Tower, page 143
 
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mellow-077 said:
It's best not to quickly assume.

Though Russell was indeed familiar with some aspects of Freemasonry, he had also, on a couple of occasions, spoken against it. . . Even calling such Societies and Orders, "grievous evils."

(He had also referred to them all as, "parts of Babylon," and even suggested that believers 'have nothing whatever to do with any of these semi-religious societies, clubs, orders, churches).

It's intrigues me that the majority tend to not even mention these particular quotes, regarding Brother Russell.
(These quotes should be considered.)

There is more evidence that he wasn't a Mason, than there is, that he potentially was.... Therefore, he should not be accused of being one.


"This brings before us the whole question of orders, societies, etc., and what privileges the New Creation has in connection with such organizations. Is it right for them to be members of these societies? We answer that while Church associations are purely religious, and labor and beneficial organizations in general are purely secular, there are still other orders which combine the religious and the secular features. As we understand the matter, for instance, the Free Masons, Odd Fellows, Knights of Pythias, etc., perform certain rites and ceremonies of a religious kind... We place upon one level all of those who have any religious ceremonies, teachings, etc., and consider them all as parts of Babylon ... We admonish the New Creation to have nothing whatever to do with any of these semi-religious societies, clubs, orders, churches; but to "Come out from amongst them, and be ye separate, and touch not the unclean thing." (`2 Cor. 6:17`)" —1904; "The New Creation", pp. 580-581

"In proportion as such societies consume valuable time in foolish, senseless rites and ceremonies, and in substituting the worship of their officers, and the use of words and symbols which have no meaning to them, for the worship of God, in his appointed way—through Christ, and according to knowledge and the spirit of a sound mind—in that proportion these societies are grievous evils, regardless of the financial gains or losses connected with membership in them." — June, 1895, Zion's Watch Tower, page 143
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I believe CT Russell was a genuine child of God. I have read much of his writings, and the critics of him. That said, he was fallible, as we all are. His refutation of masonry was before he spoke about it in esoteric terms, which seemed to me to be a dog whistle. Sorry, but I cannot reproduce the transcript of his sermon. It's out there in the archives, I thought I had linked to it somewhere, someplace; but I cannot afford to spend the time to search it out. I am not much of an archivists myself. I spit it out there and that's it.
 
(I know what you're referring to)

Well said.

However, it must be noted that even when CT Russell had spoken about Masonry in esoteric terms, within his speech; he still denied being a Mason.

If we are to believe him to be a -genuine child of God- and truth-seeker; then it is best for us to believe that he wouldn't lie about such a thing. . . He had absolutely no reason to.

The truth is, as you accurately stated. . . Brother Russell was fallible(as we all are), and was also influenced by some of their initiates(William Miller being one example). How I see it, though. . . Brother Russell still just had much to learn. It's unfortunate that he had passed sooner than he should've...

All in all. . . It is true that both Brother Russell and Brother Rutherford, had unknowingly and ignorantly brought in some false teachings[originating from Babylon the Great], one of which remains as a "tradition of men."

(That doctrine of course being, the teaching of 1914 and all that is connected to it.)

Sooner or later, God's people will be made to accept that.
 
mellow-077 said:
(I know what you're referring to)

Well said.

However, it must be noted that even when CT Russell had spoken about Masonry in esoteric terms, within his speech; he still denied being a Mason.

If we are to believe him to be a -genuine child of God- and truth-seeker; then it is best for us to believe that he wouldn't lie about such a thing. . . He had absolutely no reason to.

The truth is, as you accurately stated. . . Brother Russell was fallible(as we all are), and was also influenced by some of their initiates(William Miller being one example). How I see it, though. . . Brother Russell still just had much to learn. It's unfortunate that he had passed sooner than he should've...

All in all. . . It is true that both Brother Russell and Brother Rutherford, had unknowingly and ignorantly brought in some false teachings[originating from Babylon the Great], one of which remains as a "tradition of men."

(That doctrine of course being, the teaching of 1914 and all that is connected to it.)

Sooner or later, God's people will be made to accept that.
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I learned from a brother on here I spoke to over a year ago (he got booted off) & he was part of the Bible Students (still on going today surprisingly). He told me CTR had relatives that were Masons. I think it was either his uncle or father (both could have been involved). Just like Rutherford had the upbringing of a Baptist (see how he preached his sermons). I remember @The God Pill mentioning how after the arrest of Rutherford for his pestering the Catholics there had been a strange increase of Witnesses. Probably Jesuits infiltrating as well. It seems the time of Nathan Knorr & Fred Franz is where things truly took a turn for the worse.
 
"I learned from a brother on here I spoke to over a year ago (he got booted off) & he was part of the Bible Students (still on going today surprisingly). He told me CTR had relatives that were Masons. I think it was either his uncle or father (both could have been involved."

Yeah, he definitely did. I believe it was his Uncle.
 
"...in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be ... betrayers...Now in the way that Janʹnes and Jamʹbres opposed Moses, so these also go on opposing the truth. ...their folly will be very plain to all, as it was with those two men...But wicked men and impostors will advance from bad to worse, misleading and being misled. 2Tim 3:8-13

And Revelation 2:14 "those adhering to the teaching of Baʹlaam, who taught Baʹlak"

My 2 cents- there spellcasting and curses will turn into a blessing by Jehovah of armies, just like Numbers 22-24, their curse will turn out to be a blessing.

Because even in the worst case scenario, Jesuits and masons can't openly counsel in direct opposition to the Bible, because they would expose themselves.
 
Little River said:
Anyone heard of Project Blue Beam?
Project Blue Beam can fake the return of Jesus through holographics.
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Yes, and they can use their "Voice of God" technology to project what sounds like God that they hear only inside of their heads. Remember, Orson Well's "War of the Worlds"? Rockefeller paid to have those who believed/didn't believe that it was true to draw up psychological profiles on each to study what worked or didn't work. They even did the same experiment in other countries.

I know that they also have anti-gravity aircraft (aka: UFO's) that the Nazi's supposedly built. They could easily stage a fake alien invasion that would scare the wits out of people again.

On a related note, Elon Musk, Mr. Brain Chip himself (his company Neuralink) and Transhumanist extraordinaire has announced that he's running for President in 2024. That's just in time for the 2024 International Health Regulations to empower the WHO to declare a pandemic in any country and take over authority and for Elon to bring in a digital dollar and his UBI (universal basic income) that he's been talking about for so long.

Anyone seen Regina Dougin's video where she shows off the digital tattoo on her arm that gives her "superpowers" to open up her doors to her house and car" Or the "Smart Mark" cartoon where everyone lines up for their digital tattoo? Any one say "mark of the beast"?

You can watch the video here:

 
So anyone want to share who they think in the GB and their "helpers" might be Freemasons?
 
Deborah said:
You share first 😂
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Where do I start? All the ring-bearers for one. And I've seen Trent Lepold, David Schafer, Robert Luccioni, John Eckran, Gajus Glockentin, Harold Corkrin, Kenneth Cook and others make either the pyramid hand sign during a video talk or a "A-OK" (666) hand sign when signaling the number "3" in a talk. Who does that? In the 2023 live-steaming circuit assembly, the last symposium had two of the speakers make the "a-ok" hand sign for the #3 in each talk. How is that a coincidence?

Any others that you've noticed?
 
StopTheInsanity said:
Where do I start? All the ring-bearers for one. And I've seen Trent Lepold, David Schafer, Robert Luccioni, John Eckran, Gajus Glockentin, Harold Corkrin, Kenneth Cook and others make either the pyramid hand sign during a video talk or a "A-OK" (666) hand sign when signaling the number "3" in a talk. Who does that? In the 2023 live-steaming circuit assembly, the last symposium had two of the speakers make the "a-ok" hand sign for the #3 in each talk. How is that a coincidence?

Any others that you've noticed?
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Hi Stop,

I was just messing with you. ☺please don't beat me up but I don't really understand half of those signs. But I appreciate the info of those who do and share.

Thank you so much.
 
Deborah said:
Hi Stop,

I was just messing with you. ☺please don't beat me up but I don't really understand half of those signs. But I appreciate the info of those who do and share.

Thank you so much.
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I don't really "understand" them either, except to see so many celebrities, music stars, politicians, sports stars making them that's it's not all "coincidence".

That said, the Pyramid hand sign can be just a coincidence in SOME but the "a-ok" sign for a number "3"?? I've NEVER seen anyone do that. And tell me how many brothers/elders you remember in your congregations wearing rings on their right hands and especially on their pinky ring? Again, I hardly ever see that. And back at Bethel, most of the top men have them. Weird. Can't be just a coincidence. Especially when you research what a pinky ring means (the Pope wears one and so does Prince Charles) so it signifies power, wealth or being in the Mafia. It even is worn by gay men.Now, would the GB really want to be associated with any of those?
 
StopTheInsanity said:
So anyone want to share who they think in the GB and their "helpers" might be Freemasons?
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My uncle who is not a witness was a mason. He was a good man. I don't know if he was high ranking or low ranking. He was in the military for awhile. He seemed to have connections that he could use in a pinch.

Anyhow my point is that being a Freemason means different things to different people. Not all masons know everything about masons. More likely very few except the ones in the highest ranks know what the true nature of that org is about.
 
Liv4ever said:
My uncle who is not a witness was a mason. He was a good man. I don't know if he was high ranking or low ranking. He was in the military for awhile. He seemed to have connections that he could use in a pinch.

Anyhow my point is that being a Freemason means different things to different people. Not all masons know everything about masons. More likely very few except the ones in the highest ranks know what the true nature of that org is about.
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I agree that the rank determines the level of knowledge.

That said, why would ANY brother, especially in full time service serving in position of high responsibility in the branch become a Mason? Do you now what they believe? They practice false worship like Baal worship, astrology, and occultism. Nothing anything a true Christian would do.
 
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