Has the Watchtower been infiltrated by Freemasons?

StopTheInsanity

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I personally think that, twice removed Tight Pants Tony Morris and his two sons, working at Bethel. Has been the core of their own Masonry Society of secrets, to the detriment of all inside. Sort of like Eli his two sons Hophni and Phinehas. But maybe in a different way. You know, they set everyone up inside, testing you when you get there. I'm sure it's all a big game to them to find out who drinks too much, who is gay, who is not studying properly, who is wearing tight clothes. lol
Tony has a big 'ol pinky ring, has done Masonic hand signs, and has contradicted what Geoffrey Jackson said in a Broadcast that "no one should ever be pressured into getting baptized" when he said in a talk at a 2015 convention that if a teenager is old enough to drive, they they are old enough to get baptized and that if they aren't, then maybe they shouldn't be able to get their license. Then there's the video of him buying alcohol. That seems just too conveniently staged. And the absolute silence of the organization about the video and his departure. All seems like CoIntelPro to me. Plus, Tony's military background and Gerrit Loesch was a boy scout as a boy and that is a Freemason started organization and he talks about it in glowing terms in his life story. Loesch has a big, fat pinky ring, too. And his dad supposedly died in the war in Germany but that is a classic spy move to fake a death when going under cover.

Plus, Mark Noumair's father was a Sergeant in WWII and flew and took aerial surveillance photos in the war--again, intelligence. He later joined the Kiwanis club which has Masonic affiliations. Just all a coincidence?? Hmmmm...

What do you mean twice removed? When was the other time?
 

dgibson969

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Tony has a big 'ol pinky ring, has done Masonic hand signs, and has contradicted what Geoffrey Jackson said in a Broadcast that "no one should ever be pressured into getting baptized" when he said in a talk at a 2015 convention that if a teenager is old enough to drive, they they are old enough to get baptized and that if they aren't, then maybe they shouldn't be able to get their license. Then there's the video of him buying alcohol. That seems just too conveniently staged. And the absolute silence of the organization about the video and his departure. All seems like CoIntelPro to me. Plus, Tony's military background and Gerrit Loesch was a boy scout as a boy and that is a Freemason started organization and he talks about it in glowing terms in his life story. Loesch has a big, fat pinky ring, too. And his dad supposedly died in the war in Germany but that is a classic spy move to fake a death when going under cover.

Plus, Mark Noumair's father was a Sergeant in WWII and flew and took aerial surveillance photos in the war--again, intelligence. He later joined the Kiwanis club which has Masonic affiliations. Just all a coincidence?? Hmmmm...

What do you mean twice removed? When was the other time?
Well he was the ministry school teacher for years. My Dad attended his school. And he came back totally against wearing jeans and parroting everything Tony was and is saying. And that was back in the 70's!

I want to point out though. I don't think they ever have attended a masonry meeting after becoming JWs. But the way they operate is very suggestive that they are practicing what they learned. And the fact that they seem to be leading and/or following the moves of the Catholic Church on many issues concerning child molestation lawsuits, and calling in all funds from kingdom halls in savings accounts. Makes me wonder who is leading who!
 

goldie

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Where do I start? All the ring-bearers for one. And I've seen Trent Lepold, David Schafer, Robert Luccioni, John Eckran, Gajus Glockentin, Harold Corkrin, Kenneth Cook and others make either the pyramid hand sign during a video talk or a "A-OK" (666) hand sign when signaling the number "3" in a talk. Who does that? In the 2023 live-steaming circuit assembly, the last symposium had two of the speakers make the "a-ok" hand sign for the #3 in each talk. How is that a coincidence?

Any others that you've noticed?
Is it possible for you to get a picture of these hand signals? our assembly isn't until june..
 
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Little River

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There are some who claim that C.T. Russell was a mason. Although he denied it there is no question that he was thoroughly familiar with masonic teaching.
Here is the quote from CT Russel's speech "the Temple of God" where he says he is a Free Mason:
"I am very glad to have this particular opportunity of saying a word about some of the things in which we agree with our Masonic friends, because we are speaking in a building dedicated to Masonry, and we also are Masons. I am a Free Mason. I am a free and accepted Mason, if I may carry the matter to its full length, because that is what our Masonic brethren like to tell us, that they are free and accepted Masons."

Here is the link to the speech:
https://www.scribd.com/document/371...That-Jehovah-s-Witnesses-Are-Knights-Templars


It is true that Free Masons at the bottom ranks do not know what the Masons at the top are up to so let's assume/hope CT Russel was at the bottom ranks. Similar to our situation. What is the GB really up to?
 

StopTheInsanity

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Is it possible for you to get a picture of these hand signals? our assembly isn't until june..
I've tried to upload an attachment, but it says the file is too large. I've screen shot some of them. I haven't gone through all of the videos yet. Sam Herd wears a ring and I've seen David Splane wear one but haven't seen him wear it in awhile.
 

StopTheInsanity

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How does it matter? How does it affect me? Should we care?🥱
For me it matters because many of the brothers and sisters are being stumbled out of the truth by people that they THINK are true brothers that are being hypocritical. If they knew that they were false brothers then that might help them to stay faithful and fight on. Just a thought.
 
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jay

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For me it matters because many of the brothers and sisters are being stumbled out of the truth by people that they THINK or true brothers that are being hypocritical. If they knew that they were false brothers then that might help them to stay faithful and fight on. Just a thought.
I come from generations of JWs. My aunt is 86 years old fully up to date with her shots. I sent her Roberts booklet, no comment. To her I am an apostate. As you know we have been conditioned to reject any other thoughts Until Jehovah helps us to remove that vail. I do understand where you are coming from and I pray that even one person might understand where you are coming from. My aunt would reject right now that they have anything to do with the masons. So, first those that have fallen away would have to see that these are part of the reason for their departure. Are the Masons the reason for those that are leaving? I really don't know.
 

StopTheInsanity

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I come from generations of JWs. My aunt is 86 years old fully up to date with her shots. I sent her Roberts booklet, no comment. To her I am an apostate. As you know we have been conditioned to reject any other thoughts Until Jehovah helps us to remove that vail. I do understand where you are coming from and I pray that even one person might understand where you are coming from. My aunt would reject right now that they have anything to do with the masons. So, first those that have fallen away would have to see that these are part of the reason for their departure. Are the Masons the reason for those that are leaving? I really don't know.
I think that they could very well be the "man of lawlessness" who is the "cause of stumbling" used by Satan to deceive. They have many names for the groups/institutions that they use: World Economic Forum, Skull and Bones, Council on Foreign Relations, Round Table Group, etc, etc.

But the point is: they are good actors and their main aim is to sabotage and do away with Christianity and set up their own Luciferian world religion and kill anyone who won't worship it once in place. I think it's part of heeding Jesus' advice to stay awake and be on guard against wolves in sheep's covering.
 

jay

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I think that they could very well be the "man of lawlessness" who is the "cause of stumbling" used by Satan to deceive. They have many names for the groups/institutions that they use: World Economic Forum, Skull and Bones, Council on Foreign Relations, Round Table Group, etc, etc.

But the point is: they are good actors and their main aim is to sabotage and do away with Christianity and set up their own Luciferian world religion and kill anyone who won't worship it once in place. I think it's part of heeding Jesus' advice to stay awake and be on guard against wolves in sheep's covering.
This is where constant prayer to Jehovah to help us understand these matters and then a spirit anointed one that Jehovah is using to teach us. Those that are leaving the Org. have to be searching and have the right heart condition or it just goes right over their heads. We do need to rejoice with everyday we enjoy. Satan wants it to be are last but we will not let him separate us from the love of our Father. Thank You Bro, King for helping me to understand what a loving friend we have in Jehovah. Your faith has helped me to build mine.
 
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Liv4ever

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This is where constant prayer to Jehovah to help us understand these matters and then a spirit anointed one that Jehovah is using to teach us. Those that are leaving the Org. have to be searching and have the right heart condition or it just goes right over their heads. We do need to rejoice with everyday we enjoy. Satan wants it to be are last but we will not let him separate us from the love of our Father. Thank You Bro, King for helping me to understand what a loving friend we have in Jehovah. Your faith has helped me to build mine.
A house divided against itself will fall
 

StopTheInsanity

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Masons do not wish to be recognized, except by other members of the cult. Evidently, there is a masonic handshake and ring. They leave their tell-tale symbols about too. For example, the set of the Inside Story series displays a version of the Masonic logo that the Church of the Latter Day Saints and Scientology uses.
In the first century, Paul outed certain men whom he dubbed "superfine apostles." The members of the congregation were evidently unaware that Satan was using these men to infiltrate and influence them. That is why Paul said that they were fake apostles and deceitful workers who had merely disguised themselves as ministers of righteousness in imitation of the Devil who disguises himself as an angel of light. The Masonic cultists do the same thing. They wear a disguise and appear as ministers, no doubt even as anointed elders.

I checked out the logos of Latter Day Saints and Scientology and didn't see anything that resembled the Gilead school logo. Do you have examples that you could post here?

So do you think that the missionaries that WT sends out to other countries are Freemasons as well?

Here is Mark Noumair making the pyramid hand sign


And Mark's father was an aerial photographer in WW2 which usually indicates intelligence and he was also a Sergeant so he was high-ranking. After the war, he joined the Kiwanis club, which is affiliated with freemasonry.
 

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StopTheInsanity

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Here are three photos starting with Gilead instructor Trent Lepold and two other brothers who gave talks on the 2023 live stream circuit assembly last symposium part. In all three instances they are making a number three with their fingers but usually brothers make a three with their index finger, middle finger and ring finger. These three ALL used the "A-OK" sign which is known as the "666" sign
 

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