Never take your own life Mick . I know it is easy to say , as when you have endured pain , after a while it grinds you down . I was going to drive somewhere quiet and stop eating or drinking , and go quietly , a few years ago . Sometimes pain is so bad , you cannot find any relief from the pain , and even sleep becomes painful . When we were mentioning things a few weeks ago , and some said that they would pray for me , I saw an article about walking around bare foot . I have been doing so , and I have felt better than I have in a long time . Hold in there mucker .
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I’ve reading about grounding. Sounds so interesting. Thank you for telling us your experience with it. How simple! I guess you can’t charge for it and so it isn’t advertised.
I have Sarcoidosis . When I was writing to Mick a couple of weeks ago , I had had a flare up on my lungs for over seven months . I had been given antibiotic`s a couple of months before , but it had not helped . I tried grounding , and my joints are feeling better as well as the lungs better than they have been in years . My eyes still itch , but compared to all having shortness of breath , aching and swollen joints tiredness etc , I can handle the eyes itching . I walked this week , and the ankles are a little swollen , but the last time I walked similar , I tore my Achilles tendons . I would recommend it , but would never of believed the difference if I had not tried it .
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“A Circuit Overseer started out by saying that on this last round of the circuit, the one thing he noticed the most...is that everyone is physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually drained...and that cuts across all barriers and demographics within the truth.
He then said that the one common thread that ran among nearly everyone was this: We feel GUILTY for feeling bad. He said because we are told to endure with joy, our minds can cause us to feel enormous guilt over feeling this way...and then, my dear brothers and sisters...he proceeded to blow our collective minds.
He asked us to turn to Daniel 8:27…
"As for me, Daniel, I felt exhausted and I was sick for some days. Then I got up and carried out the king’s work; but I was numbed by what I had seen, and no one could understand it."
He asked if we knew what Daniel was referring to, but other than the fact that this was obviously a vision of Daniel's, we had no idea. He then asked one of us to go back to verse 19 and read that verse...and as soon as it was read... suddenly his point came straight into focus…it says:
"Then he said: “Here I am causing you to know what will happen in the final part of the denunciation, because it is for the appointed time of the end."
"Appointed time of the end!" As we all sat there, stunned and awestruck, he told us that here Jehovah had chosen to give Daniel a teeny tiny little sliver of a vision of what WE would have to endure in our day, in the last days...and then he said, "Did anyone notice in verse 27 how it made Daniel FEEL?" We re-read Daniel's words...EXHAUSTED...SICK FOR SOME DAYS...NUMBED...NO ONE COULD UNDERSTAND.
He pointed out that, while it didn't stop Daniel from carrying out the King's work, if that's how that single little TASTE, (in a vision no less), of what we go through every single day was enough to make Daniel feel that way...is it any wonder we feel the way we do LIVING through it?
Jehovah knows what we go through. He knows how hard we struggle.
The loving Circuit Overseer then said that, while we definitely absolutely need joy to serve Jehovah faithfully...we also need balance...and that means acknowledging those negative feelings that we all experience and finding scriptural ways to cope with them.
Jehovah's realistic view on our negative feelings is so encouraging. What a profound thought, even after everything Daniel went through...Jehovah, in effect, told him..."Let me give you just a little TASTE of what THEY will have to endure. What a way, what a profound method...for Jehovah to reach out across time and link his servants together."
He then said that the one common thread that ran among nearly everyone was this: We feel GUILTY for feeling bad. He said because we are told to endure with joy, our minds can cause us to feel enormous guilt over feeling this way...and then, my dear brothers and sisters...he proceeded to blow our collective minds.
He asked us to turn to Daniel 8:27…
"As for me, Daniel, I felt exhausted and I was sick for some days. Then I got up and carried out the king’s work; but I was numbed by what I had seen, and no one could understand it."
He asked if we knew what Daniel was referring to, but other than the fact that this was obviously a vision of Daniel's, we had no idea. He then asked one of us to go back to verse 19 and read that verse...and as soon as it was read... suddenly his point came straight into focus…it says:
"Then he said: “Here I am causing you to know what will happen in the final part of the denunciation, because it is for the appointed time of the end."
"Appointed time of the end!" As we all sat there, stunned and awestruck, he told us that here Jehovah had chosen to give Daniel a teeny tiny little sliver of a vision of what WE would have to endure in our day, in the last days...and then he said, "Did anyone notice in verse 27 how it made Daniel FEEL?" We re-read Daniel's words...EXHAUSTED...SICK FOR SOME DAYS...NUMBED...NO ONE COULD UNDERSTAND.
He pointed out that, while it didn't stop Daniel from carrying out the King's work, if that's how that single little TASTE, (in a vision no less), of what we go through every single day was enough to make Daniel feel that way...is it any wonder we feel the way we do LIVING through it?
Jehovah knows what we go through. He knows how hard we struggle.
The loving Circuit Overseer then said that, while we definitely absolutely need joy to serve Jehovah faithfully...we also need balance...and that means acknowledging those negative feelings that we all experience and finding scriptural ways to cope with them.
Jehovah's realistic view on our negative feelings is so encouraging. What a profound thought, even after everything Daniel went through...Jehovah, in effect, told him..."Let me give you just a little TASTE of what THEY will have to endure. What a way, what a profound method...for Jehovah to reach out across time and link his servants together."
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Interesting take on that scripture. It certainly would be interesting to know what Jehovah showed him in vision. If it was what modern day warfare is going to lead up to in the future which we perhaps cannot even comprehend, it's no wonder that Daniel felt sick for some days. I'm sure that he could not process most of what he was seeing as it says:
"I was numbed by what I had seen, and no one could understand it"
But it's also interesting to note how the CO pointed out that "everyone is physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually drained" No doubt including himself too. I wonder if he can see the reason behind it is the failure of the WT to provide the spiritual guidance that is needed and the constant reminders of do more, give more, shun more, idolize the GB more etc. Perhaps he is even a PIMO CO. Who knows?
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My sister sent this to me, apparently its circulating on "jw friends".
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I wonder if roller skates help?
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I contend the basis of this CO’s thinking - only my thoughts , I’m not criticising, it’s a very good point you make - however, - Daniel was well aware of hardship and the troubles of the times he lived in, just as our situation is normal to us - in fact, many “love it that way”. War has always been a constant feature, so has despondency.
To me, the striking point he made was that Jehovah had given Daniel a “teeny tiny little sliver” of what was to come. But of what issue during the time of the end was he showing Daniel? That is the question.
Each generation on this earth lives in tribulation since Eden. Would such a vision of the flood strike the same awe into those whom lived at that time? What of the subsequent wars and famines, diseases and invasions, sexual depravity and the destruction of Sodom? These were cataclysmic events in a world so small everyone would be aware of it and what was not local to nations, political intrigue and spies told the rest. Did that send people into unexplainable doom? We look at our lives in isolation to history and call them bad, but to those of the preceding eras, we live in luxury, and the people are blind and deaf - but to what? We are living for the day and selfish enjoyment. Just like Sodom.
Daniel said that ”No one could understand it…” and that he was “numbed”. Why should that be? The major difference between those times of Daniel and ourselves is hardly war or social decline. What is different is surely the presence of Jehovah via His prophets; the issues of the Word, His people and the great interventions that Jehovah has made with His people. In these days, there is no god, only religion. And of the one religion that does bear the name, they have known the truth, and yet as prophesy shows, have knowingly deceived the flock. For a spiritual paradise that literally ‘could’ have been, they have substituted the lie. For the warning of the second coming, that Daniel clearly would have known about I suppose, they have said It has already come, and for the Word and authority of Jehovah, they have substituted them selves and their own understanding as the “channel of Jehovah on this earth.” One might expect of them then, truth and cohesion, happiness in the word and contentment that supersedes all other troubles in this life. Why be glum?
Which scenario then is the more incredulous for Daniel in that neither he, nor those at the time could comprehend? What makes the flock unable to understand the Word; and to be happy? Are they not numbed and unable to understand, “skinned and thrown about”, without a shepherd? Why are Jehovah‘s own people sad and lost when the bible says that they should be lifting up their heads and rejoicing “because their deliverance is near”?
The flock are not scared or downhearted because of the times we live in. We have been living in this mess since Eden. The flock have not been crying out for safety, wealth, or through fear, but through lack of spiritual food - the bible tells us. Jesus said not to worry over food, clothing, housing, life itself, but the Word - and that was two thousand years ago! He told us to worry over our …..what? Spiritual needs. And what is lacking in watchtower? ………”?
As usual, the CO, in tandem with his masters shifts the needs of the congregation onto the world and the physical needs of the person not being met, in direct contradiction as to the Word of the bible that points out the joy and expectation that truth and faith bring to the soul. The CO was ticking ears with his shallow understanding and slick argument that seems to have blind-sided the congregation yet again. ”Do not be deceived…..Satan…..he is seeking to devour …”. Name a person that has understanding of the truth and yet is in complete despair. Name a person in watchtower who is not blind and deaf to the times we live in and feels they have no where to go, that life is a treadmill, that the ”end” will never come, that Jehovah is delaying, held up by an immortal generation that just will not die….? Indeed, why seek truth where it can no longer be found? The “teeny tiny sliver”; was it of the apostasy (that no one could understand), or world conditions? Which, if held in the hand, knowing truth, could one not fathom? I would suggest that what Daniel could not understand, was the apostasy and it’s outcomes; that Jehovah and His son Christ were rejected and usurped in their authority by those to whom the flock had been given. Who could understand that?
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I'm humbled by the actions of Daniel who used to pray out of his window each day who for? In 9:5 He confesses and includes himself "We have sinned and done wrong and acted wickedly and rebelled: we have deviated from your commandments and judgements. vs6 We have not listened to your servants the prophets". No wonder in vs23 the angel Gabriel called him someone 'precious'. I am humbled by the lesson: He didn't put himself above his bro's and sis!
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It has always been so with Jehovah that one should willingly always take the lowest seat. If you don’t, you get shown it anyway. If you don’t sit down, you are sat down, and if you are made to sit down in it, you stay there the longer - even when you try to get up. It appears to be quite a wide seat judging by the amount of people here sitting upon it. I get the impression that as we seem to know what’s coming, everyone is reluctant to stand up.
As I have mentioned , a few years ago , after reading Roberts posts etc for a number of years , I started to make a real effort to get my life in order . It had come after many years of verbal and physical abuse from within the org , and I had stayed far away from it all . An elder who had both physically and mentally abused me , amongst others had stopped on the opposite side of the road , and stared at me . I went crazy , trying to cross , as I was going for more than payback . The traffic was far too busy , and I was left boiling . I told my mother that if I get hold of him , even Jehovah would not be able to stop me . (I did three martial arts , and was super fit at the time ) . Shortly after , I became ill , and have been ill for many years . I also had someone who previous to my becoming ill was like a little puppy when they meet someone . He had his dad with him , but he could of just pushed me , and I would of fallen over . I endured him , and his friends for 14 months or more . I have just recently been feeling better , but have learned a whole lot of lessons . As I had been reading the bible daily , certain things came up that were relevant to what was happening . One being that the one that Jehovah loves , he reproves , and then there was that sometimes the hard times are not taken away , but there will be help in knowing why . It has all been a very humbling experience , and for many years . My martial arts were of no use at all , and anyone who thinks that they will be able to resist is going to learn the same lesson .
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Matthew 21:22 “And all the things you ask in prayer, having faith, you will receive.”
It is not wrong to pray to be healed. But somehow, WT has made it impossible to think that Jehovah hears these kind of prayers. If He wills it then it will be answered. Bu if He does not, then we pray for endurance.(Compare 2 Corinthians 12:7-9) If one does not have faith that God can heal even at this time, then he will not be healed miraculously. Consider in Jesus’ time, only those who want to be healed miraculously were healed, it was only those who have faith. As others have already stated, Jehovah does not answer our prayers immediately or even not at all, but it teaches us still to trust in His ways.
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The greatest act of healing that I have seen from Jehovah was for an unborn child, still in the womb. The mother was advised by her surgeon (a woman) to abort as it was found that the child had a cyst growing rapidly, pushing the heart right over to the other side of the chest. It was inoperable. The syndrome was known to be more often that not fatal, and if not, resulted in not only a very poor prognosis, but permanent heart problems and foreshortened life. The mother chose to “give the child a chance” on the basis of the scriptural values towards life. She prayed. Was the same degree of faith present in the leper, the paralysed man, Lazarus, the blind man, who on meeting the ordinary man Jesus believed in miracles that only a “fool” could believe in, as such faith would still be called today? Well, the cyst shrank away, the heart moved itself back to where it should be, and the child is alive and well aged two. The remains of the cyst was removed to avoid any resurgence after his birth. The mother witnessed to the surgeon in a magnificent way. “Care for the widow and orphans, the fatherless child…” springs to mind. When parents cannot help such ones, it seems only logical that Jehovah would abide in His love and moreso, His promises. So - keep praying.
If things get painful to the point of distraction, I make the painful area more painful. Seems to do the trick.
Until the next time it hurts. I need 2 walking sticks to help me get around. I asked the supermarket owner if I could use the store trolley as a walker, I offered to buy the thing. He said I'll think about it, but go ahead and use it in the mean time. It has been 8 months now.
I've already designed in my head a brace to strap onto my legs n hips. Not desperate enough to turn it into a thing, yet. I also have an idea for a 3 wheel mobility rig. Jehovah has helped me to cope before I need to cope Just by endowing me with skills, to do stuff. At some point there will come a time when I will really need to rely on Jehovah. That time is not here yet.
Until the next time it hurts. I need 2 walking sticks to help me get around. I asked the supermarket owner if I could use the store trolley as a walker, I offered to buy the thing. He said I'll think about it, but go ahead and use it in the mean time. It has been 8 months now.
I've already designed in my head a brace to strap onto my legs n hips. Not desperate enough to turn it into a thing, yet. I also have an idea for a 3 wheel mobility rig. Jehovah has helped me to cope before I need to cope Just by endowing me with skills, to do stuff. At some point there will come a time when I will really need to rely on Jehovah. That time is not here yet.
