Beautiful reply, Susan, thank you so much for that. That was exactly what I was looking for. True, we can't know until it actually happens, but Jehovah gave us prophecy for a reason and wants us to try and understand it to be prepared for what's ahead.
I am rereading Robert's book for the third time taking extensive notes this time and really looking up the scriptures in-depth. I am finding nuggets I didn't find the last two times.
For example, he talked about how the King of the North "went back again" (Daniel 11:29) by going back to infiltration methods to "give attention to those leaving the covenant". I've suspected that while we may have been infiltrated for awhile, it really seems it took a foothold in the 1950's after WWII because the Witnesses were so faithful during the Nazi camps they knew they had to destroy from within by different methods. I just KNEW this had to be in the scriptures and BAM! There is was and Robert connected the dots.
Also, he talked about how the "throne of Satan" was mentioned in Revelation 2:13 as being inside of the congregation and Robert tied it into the infiltration by the London-based Freemason/Theosopy movement and Zionism. Have you seen the video on JW.org about Zionist Jared Kirschner buying the NY headquarters buildings? Creeped me out.
And "those acting wickedly against the covenant (anointed at Bethel by joining the UN) he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. The "smooth words" being that the UN's 2030 stated goals sound very similar to the Kingdom goals and the transhumansim goals sound very similar to the things that ONLY Jesus can do by healing and resurrecting people so its the antiChrist.
I agree that the WT will probably tell us to take the mark and cite Romans 13 or whatever other gibberish they'll come up with.
I base this on a few things:
1) the 2023 drama is encouraging "obedience" by going into refugee camps (and who set these up???) during civil unrest even if it means you lose your home. The World Economic Forum has said "It's the year 2030: You will own nothing and you will love it". The Princess of Netherlands or Denmark I don't remember which, said in a speech "Why do you want to own anything when you can rent it?" And Canada came up with a Biodigital Convergence document showing how we will live in the "internet of things" and "the internet of bodies" where all things are connected to the internet including out bodies in smart cities and apartments that we don't own. There is one called NEOM being built in Saudi Arabia and Bill Gates is building one in Arizona and there are several more.
2) Mormons have set up a Transhumanism Association promoting transhumanism as the means that God will set up his Kingdom and fulfill his prophecies about healing:
and here's their official website:
I have a friend who wrote the branch asking their view on this and on transhumanism (the Catholics actually held a conference about transhumanism, too, so it WILL be pushed by religion as the "solution") and they said that transhumanism was not totally in conflict with the Bible and yes, only the Kingdom can solve mankind's problems. I was shocked. So yes, there are some back in Bethel who are not against it. In fact, several Bethelites are total Trekkies (they love Star Trek) so I can totally see them thinking like that and promoting us getting the mark.
3) During COVID, the WT sounded exactly like the WHO (their biggest financial donor was Bill Gates) and set up vaccination centers and their GB updates sounded exactly like paid infommercials. It sounds like they are still part of the UN especially since they were able to get vaccines into countries where they were hard to come by. And they used UN planes to fly supplies to the brothers and sisters in the Congo and had representatives attend UN conferences. So it appears that the infiltrator's goal is to "deliver the goods" to the UN, "us" being the goods, during the time of the end and they are grooming us to be good little NWO citizens. I think that's why they kept us on Zoom for so long and are still having CO's wear masks at meetings and out in service.
All that said, do you think that this advice will come before their "fall" and then what's going to happen after the "fall"? To them and to us?
And should we obey or disobey this advice to go to camps (if that's the advice) with the understanding the Jehovah will protect his people even there and foil their plans or do we disobey and "flee to the mountains"?
Will the true anointed be betrayed by the fake ones and be imprisoned/in camps as well and that's where they "preach in sack cloth" and then are killed?
Is that also when the brothers and sisters are stumbled and betray one another? Do you think WT will be exposed in its complicity with the UN?
So it sounds like you described phase 1. What's going to happen then after that in Phase 2 and 3?
Just trying to tie all these prophecies together. When do you think the WW3 will be? The cry for peach and security?