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tenii8

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I must be aware. I'm getting pretty worried about this now. I can't finish this journey with this gang. The majority of "freedom groups" are, in my opinion, a part of the people that will be duped once the last veil is lifted, so maybe this is the route I need to pursue. as the majority aren't even genuinely "Christians." Well, establishing a new society and such things seem good, but as Daniel foretells, you will rebel against Jehovah in the last days. I don't wish to participate in it.
 
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Paul resiliente

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Hi everyone, I am David. I've been watching and reading this forum for a while. Let me tell you about myself because it's an itch I have to scratch.
-POMO: I got into a deep depression few years ago and I wanted to hurt myself. To be clear, I wanted it to HURT.
-I ended up in a mental hospital for a month in wait for it... Jan of 2020 and got discharged mid February. That's right, when the "mental health professionals" were advising me to go on trips and live life and stuff lockdowns happened less than a month later in March. I was furious.
-I am in Canada.
-I got baptized little before my deep depression.
-My parents have history with the organization. My father started in his teens and is on off. My mom has been one since before I was in kindergarten. They are both regular attendees and believe them fully.

I am extremely greatful that this organization made me realize the TRUTH of all things. And something is not making sense to me with this organization.

I am living off-grid with group of people who are against vaccinations and lockdowns. Some people say "Oh I am not against vaccinations, just forced ones and poison". Forget that, I am against all vaccinations general. I am anti-vax. I probably took a few in childhood years but I was constantly sick for 10 years. After I reached adulthood I can say one thing I have for myself is health. So much for medicine. My policy is hospitals are for life-or-death situations and anything else is just a waste of time.

Like back when I knew that I was at a crossroad choosing to study with the witnesses, I am at one now. This is very serious. The road and guesses have to be correct. It's my life on the line. And I want to see the final days happen and be on the right side.

What "crossroads"? The off-grid people I have associated with come from various backgrounds. I have been valiantly trying to get away from the big city(Vancouver) and I have. Previously one of the groups I was considering joining was a "Christian" group. I couldn't accept that. The one I am in now is like I said from various backgrounds.

I know the great tribulation is coming. The day of Jehovah is at hand! But I know it won't be instant. There are few things that must happen. Before that I must say I am now ready to serve if I know the road is sure, but the JW organization is very murky to say the least. I had a feeling when I was with them that it sometimes felt like they deliberately want us to take the painful path. I went through this in my head multiple times. "Poison disguised as vaccination part of the suffering required"? Is that what he wants? That's the trial by fire? But if it causes deaths and pain to their followers, aren't the governing body and every authority in the organization involved RESPONSIBLE for the crime"?

Sorry but W T F! I can't understand this. I guess I have a strong conscience and a strong desire to see humanity succeed and prosper. It seriously depresses me. If that's what Jehovah wants I cannot accept such a god. I will gladly accept the punishment at the end. We know the fiery hell is a lie and you'll just die at judgment day right?

I say to people "I used to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I agree with 90% of what they are saying. The 10% I disagree with is the lockdowns and vaccine mandates.". I also say to people this group of people suffered and DIED defying Nazi Hitler! What the hell are they doing now? It absolutely baffles me.

I need to know. This is starting to really worry me. I cannot stay with this group till the end. Maybe this is the path I need to go but most of the "freedom groups" are I believe part of the group that will be deceived as the final veil is taken off. As most aren't even "Christians" at all. Yea creating a new society and all that sounds nice but like Daniel prophesizes, you will go against Jehovah at the final days. I don't want to be part of that.

There are countries in the world that are under extreme oppression and I know it will be opened - such as North Korea. The things Chinese suffer sounds like utopia compared to that country. Because everyone needs to hear the good news. I think if that happens I will go and preach at any cost. The strange and negative feelings about the world I had far back as I can even remember when I was just a child, THIS IS IT! The obsessive need to save in every area(especially) finances for something. This is it! Knowing the real truth of the holy scriptures is hard to explain. You feel special for it.

To be clear I am not afraid of death itself. I want to choose the right path. Everyone saying those who have firm belief in God and his son Jesus feeling content despite being just about to be executed, I can understand that now.

What do I do? What is my path? What is OUR path? Are we doomed as they say?

If I had it happen the way I want it how would things go?: The Jehovah's Witnesses organization will be reprimanded by Jehovah himself and there will be serious upheaval. Then there would be no hesitation. Back to the roots I say!
Hi David, we have common ground, fucking in common lol. For example, the deep desire to know the truth of the scriptures and the obsession to save in all areas (especially finances, like building something). From the age of 8 or 9, looking at the illustrations in the Wachtower magazines, I felt the need, the hunger to know more and more. Practically from that age I was disturbingly mentally wanting to know the real truth of everything and what to do. At the age of 9 I got to know the magazines as I mentioned, then there was a pause, until at the age of 16 I met the Wachtower organization, I was baptized a year after entering, I learned many basic and fundamental things, and when everything was becoming monotonous, I i asked jehovah to show me a more refined truth, no matter if it involves disappointment, fear, feeling lonely or whatever, and i discovered this site in 2019, mr king site that quenched the thirst for answers to many things that the wachtower does not was able to respond, on the contrary, they prevent you by branding the one who investigates as an apostate. I welcome you, I am sure that by reviewing Robert's articles you will find many answers to various biblical questions and real life, what is happening and what will happen. I also suggest using our own scriptural reasoning consistently to keep digging into God's treasures. And yes, feel special, we are children of the offspring of God, the offspring of the serpent is in battle with us and against our God.
 

kenmuldoon55

Well-known member
I must be aware. I'm getting pretty worried about this now. I can't finish this journey with this gang. The majority of "freedom groups" are, in my opinion, a part of the people that will be duped once the last veil is lifted, so maybe this is the route I need to pursue. as the majority aren't even genuinely "Christians." Well, establishing a new society and such things seem good, but as Daniel foretells, you will rebel against Jehovah in the last days. I don't wish to participate in it.
Which group would you be referencing?
This group on E-Watchman, or some other?
 

BagdadBill

Well-known member
What do I do? What is my path? What is OUR path? Are we doomed as they say?
I thought I would answer this question one day. I would make a demand of God and he would answer me BY GOD. and here I am many years later. No closer nor further from the truth. The truth has been in front of my eyes the entire time. God has been walking alongside of you since you were born. We can't see him because it does not belong to us to see him. What are you made of? God gave you a body and mind so that you would find the answer to that question.
You are not doomed. If I breathe another breath my God is my King and he keeps me alive, because he wants to. I sin against my God by the minute. I am that pathetic. I don't deserve life nor anything good and yet I will keep begging my God for just such. I can't even recall the depth of my sin and yet I will in fact beg my God for mercy.
This is what we are. This is what we are left with is God's mercy on us. Don't fight against it. Get in line and take a number. We are all sinners and have need of God's forgiveness.
 

Back to True Worship

Well-known member
Hi everyone, I am David. I've been watching and reading this forum for a while. Let me tell you about myself because it's an itch I have to scratch.
-POMO: I got into a deep depression few years ago and I wanted to hurt myself. To be clear, I wanted it to HURT.
-I ended up in a mental hospital for a month in wait for it... Jan of 2020 and got discharged mid February. That's right, when the "mental health professionals" were advising me to go on trips and live life and stuff lockdowns happened less than a month later in March. I was furious.
-I am in Canada.
-I got baptized little before my deep depression.
-My parents have history with the organization. My father started in his teens and is on off. My mom has been one since before I was in kindergarten. They are both regular attendees and believe them fully.

I am extremely greatful that this organization made me realize the TRUTH of all things. And something is not making sense to me with this organization.

I am living off-grid with group of people who are against vaccinations and lockdowns. Some people say "Oh I am not against vaccinations, just forced ones and poison". Forget that, I am against all vaccinations general. I am anti-vax. I probably took a few in childhood years but I was constantly sick for 10 years. After I reached adulthood I can say one thing I have for myself is health. So much for medicine. My policy is hospitals are for life-or-death situations and anything else is just a waste of time.

Like back when I knew that I was at a crossroad choosing to study with the witnesses, I am at one now. This is very serious. The road and guesses have to be correct. It's my life on the line. And I want to see the final days happen and be on the right side.

What "crossroads"? The off-grid people I have associated with come from various backgrounds. I have been valiantly trying to get away from the big city(Vancouver) and I have. Previously one of the groups I was considering joining was a "Christian" group. I couldn't accept that. The one I am in now is like I said from various backgrounds.

I know the great tribulation is coming. The day of Jehovah is at hand! But I know it won't be instant. There are few things that must happen. Before that I must say I am now ready to serve if I know the road is sure, but the JW organization is very murky to say the least. I had a feeling when I was with them that it sometimes felt like they deliberately want us to take the painful path. I went through this in my head multiple times. "Poison disguised as vaccination part of the suffering required"? Is that what he wants? That's the trial by fire? But if it causes deaths and pain to their followers, aren't the governing body and every authority in the organization involved RESPONSIBLE for the crime"?

Sorry but W T F! I can't understand this. I guess I have a strong conscience and a strong desire to see humanity succeed and prosper. It seriously depresses me. If that's what Jehovah wants I cannot accept such a god. I will gladly accept the punishment at the end. We know the fiery hell is a lie and you'll just die at judgment day right?

I say to people "I used to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I agree with 90% of what they are saying. The 10% I disagree with is the lockdowns and vaccine mandates.". I also say to people this group of people suffered and DIED defying Nazi Hitler! What the hell are they doing now? It absolutely baffles me.

I need to know. This is starting to really worry me. I cannot stay with this group till the end. Maybe this is the path I need to go but most of the "freedom groups" are I believe part of the group that will be deceived as the final veil is taken off. As most aren't even "Christians" at all. Yea creating a new society and all that sounds nice but like Daniel prophesizes, you will go against Jehovah at the final days. I don't want to be part of that.

There are countries in the world that are under extreme oppression and I know it will be opened - such as North Korea. The things Chinese suffer sounds like utopia compared to that country. Because everyone needs to hear the good news. I think if that happens I will go and preach at any cost. The strange and negative feelings about the world I had far back as I can even remember when I was just a child, THIS IS IT! The obsessive need to save in every area(especially) finances for something. This is it! Knowing the real truth of the holy scriptures is hard to explain. You feel special for it.

To be clear I am not afraid of death itself. I want to choose the right path. Everyone saying those who have firm belief in God and his son Jesus feeling content despite being just about to be executed, I can understand that now.

What do I do? What is my path? What is OUR path? Are we doomed as they say?

If I had it happen the way I want it how would things go?: The Jehovah's Witnesses organization will be reprimanded by Jehovah himself and there will be serious upheaval. Then there would be no hesitation. Back to the roots I say!
Hi David,
I too am from Canada, Edmonton to be exact, was disfellowshipped for speaking against the vaccines and the GB 's decision to push it , am considered a cause of Division. But there are many here in Edmonton who remain Jw's and some go to the meetings and some do not. but they all recognize something is wrong. Happy you found your way here , all I ask is you keep praying and reading the bible ..Jehovah will reveal everything to you. It is a very difficult situation to be in and very lonely , so keep reading the bible and asking Jehovah to direct you, when I feel absolutely by myself and feel very depressed , I pray and read and I know it sounds trite but it helps me to know Jehovah supports me despite having very limited associations and people to visit with , it is for me a very difficult thing not to have family and friends to be face to face with.
 

DavidCJ

Well-known member
Based on recent events, I was basically forced to leave the group. But it seems like based on what they(government are doing I have to continue on the "spirit" of what they were doing. What is that? Off-grid, and homesteading.

Loblaws division PC Financial is offering Cricket Powder now. I am going to have to gather emergency store of food. Even if I am forced to leave what I have in the future, I will have to start now, or very soon because in the immediate future I need to. They are pushing things very quickly. If the big nuclear war happens, the silver lining may be at least they will stop the relatively minor events such as covid shots and such. And things will be clear spiritually so there's that.

Raised by Jesuits
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Liv4ever

Guest
Based on recent events, I was basically forced to leave the group. But it seems like based on what they(government are doing I have to continue on the "spirit" of what they were doing. What is that? Off-grid, and homesteading.

Loblaws division PC Financial is offering Cricket Powder now. I am going to have to gather emergency store of food. Even if I am forced to leave what I have in the future, I will have to start now, or very soon because in the immediate future I need to. They are pushing things very quickly. If the big nuclear war happens, the silver lining may be at least they will stop the relatively minor events such as covid shots and such. And things will be clear spiritually so there's that.


What's the context for this post?
Introductions and experiences
 
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Liv4ever

Guest
Oh I see now... I mean that I was raised by Jesuits...I'm late to the party
 

Shekinah

Well-known member
Hello David welcome,
There are many who didn't take the vaccine, both brothers and those in the world. What I've come to realise is that the separation caused is a deliberate agenda, one that's needed to have a multitude of believer's ready for when this present system is exposed for what it is. There's controlled opposition in the form of even the doctors who have exposed these jabs. There's a time coming when the majority of those along with the vaxxed will be decieved falling for the coming powerful delusion.

I know it's hard not knowing which way to turn or who to trust, but me personally I'd rather be with lovers of Jehovah despite the tests we're enduring right now, than to be with those who are blinded to what's coming and being lead into the coming frenzy of false peace and utopia.
Try telling them come the time that what they believe is wrong they'll hand you over thinking they're doing a good deed for God.

Please don't be angry with Jehovah, the scriptures warned us about the hired man who'd not care for the sheep and the Bible warned us about the man of lawlessness, in the midst of the Christ's apostles. Are we to expect anything less during this time of the end?
You mentioned about our brothers in the Nazi camps, did you ever wonder that maybe it was because of what those leading Gods people were teaching was going beyond the things written?
Didn't we teach for over forty years that fleshly Israel was part of prophetic fulfilment, even working with the Rothschild's to help create a plan for a nation of Israel to be established. I learnt that Hitler hated the brothers for their association with the Rothschilds he thought they had a plan to take over the world. So perhaps the organisation going beyond what is written and not relying on Jehovah caused them to go into Nazi captivity.

They only realised that their prophetic understanding of Israel was false after Israel became members of the UN, then the teaching was dropped and hardly mentioned again. What a heavy price to pay for not waiting on Jehovah.
Ancient Israel made the same errors relying on the support of the nations rather than relying on Jehovah and there were always consequences.
But this is not Jehovah's fault, it's when we don't listen to God's words and take it upon ourselves these situations occur.

For example if the organisation had paid heed to Jesus words when he said pay what's Caesar's to Caesar the org may not have been lead into the trap that they have.
Becoming a 501c3 tax exempt organisation brings with it other requirements, like going along with what the authorities require, that's why it's known as a "Gag Order" practically all the churches are under this exemption and required to play along with the authorities including the WHO, or they can even have their property removed and lose their exemption.

Like Judas they all sold out for 15 pieces of silver.
There's a reason why judgement begins with the house of God, Jehovah's not turning a blind eye to what's happening we have been warned about those within Christ's Kingdom who would cause this stumbling.
It's for us to remain firm and use discernment, not to be swayed by the things we see and hear, but keep enduring whether your in the organisation or out, remember this is Satan trying to conquer and divide while leading you to believe that this is not prophetic fulfilment, when everything is unfolding just as God said it would.

Stay safe & pray for strength Jehovah lead you here as he did the rest of us, so as to build up one another as these days draw near 🙂🙏🏼
 
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goldie

Well-known member
Hello David welcome,
There are many who didn't take the vaccine, both brothers and those in the world. What I've come to realise is that the separation caused is a deliberate agenda, one that's needed to have a multitude of believer's ready for when this present system is exposed for what it is. There's controlled opposition in the form of even the doctors who have exposed these jabs. There's a time coming when the majority of those along with the vaxxed will be decieved falling for the coming powerful delusion.

I know it's hard not knowing which way to turn or who to trust, but me personally I'd rather be with lovers of Jehovah despite the tests we're enduring right now, than to be with those who are blinded to what's coming and being lead into the coming frenzy of false peace and utopia.
Try telling them come the time that what they believe is wrong they'll hand you over thinking they're doing a good deed for God.

Please don't be angry with Jehovah, the scriptures warned us about the hired man who'd not care for the sheep and the Bible warned us about the man of lawlessness, in the midst of the Christ's apostles. Are we to expect anything less during this time of the end?
You mentioned about our brothers in the Nazi camps, did you ever wonder that maybe it was because of what those leading Gods people were teaching was going beyond the things written?
Didn't we teach for over forty years that fleshly Israel was part of prophetic fulfilment, even working with the Rothschild's to help create a plan for a nation of Israel to be established. I learnt that Hitler hated the brothers for their association with the Rothschilds he thought they had a plan to take over the world. So perhaps the organisation going beyond what is written and not relying on Jehovah caused them going into Nazi captivity.

They only realised that their prophetic understanding of Israel was false after Israel became members of the UN, then the teaching was dropped and hardly mentioned again. What a heavy price to pay for not waiting on Jehovah.
Israel made the same errors relying on the support of the nations rather than relying on Jehovah and there were always consequences.
But this is not Jehovah's fault, it's when we don't listen to God's words and take it upon ourselves these situations occur.

For example if the organisation had paid heed to Jesus words when he said pay what's Caesar's to Caesar the org may not have been lead into the trap that they have. Becoming a 501c3 tax exempt organisation brings with it other requirements, like going along with what the authorities require, that's why it's known as a "Gag Order" practically all the churches are under this exemption and required to play along with the authorities including the WHO, or they can even have their property removed and lose their exemption. Like Judas they all sold out for 15 pieces of silver.
There's a reason why judgement begins with the house of God, Jehovah's not turning a blind eye to what's happening we have been warned about those within Christ's Kingdom who would cause this stumbling.
It's for us to remain firm and use discernment, not to be swayed by the things we see and hear, but keep enduring whether your in the organisation or out, remember this is Satan trying to conquer and divide while leading you to believe that this is not prophetic fulfilment, when everything is unfolding just as God said it would.

Stay safe & pray for strength Jehovah lead you hear as he did the rest of us, so as to build up one another as these days draw near 🙂🙏🏼
Shekinah, I always enjoy your comments.
 
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