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DavidCJ

Well-known member
Hi everyone, I am David. I've been watching and reading this forum for a while. Let me tell you about myself because it's an itch I have to scratch.
-POMO: I got into a deep depression few years ago and I wanted to hurt myself. To be clear, I wanted it to HURT.
-I ended up in a mental hospital for a month in wait for it... Jan of 2020 and got discharged mid February. That's right, when the "mental health professionals" were advising me to go on trips and live life and stuff lockdowns happened less than a month later in March. I was furious.
-I am in Canada.
-I got baptized little before my deep depression.
-My parents have history with the organization. My father started in his teens and is on off. My mom has been one since before I was in kindergarten. They are both regular attendees and believe them fully.

I am extremely greatful that this organization made me realize the TRUTH of all things. And something is not making sense to me with this organization.

I am living off-grid with group of people who are against vaccinations and lockdowns. Some people say "Oh I am not against vaccinations, just forced ones and poison". Forget that, I am against all vaccinations general. I am anti-vax. I probably took a few in childhood years but I was constantly sick for 10 years. After I reached adulthood I can say one thing I have for myself is health. So much for medicine. My policy is hospitals are for life-or-death situations and anything else is just a waste of time.

Like back when I knew that I was at a crossroad choosing to study with the witnesses, I am at one now. This is very serious. The road and guesses have to be correct. It's my life on the line. And I want to see the final days happen and be on the right side.

What "crossroads"? The off-grid people I have associated with come from various backgrounds. I have been valiantly trying to get away from the big city(Vancouver) and I have. Previously one of the groups I was considering joining was a "Christian" group. I couldn't accept that. The one I am in now is like I said from various backgrounds.

I know the great tribulation is coming. The day of Jehovah is at hand! But I know it won't be instant. There are few things that must happen. Before that I must say I am now ready to serve if I know the road is sure, but the JW organization is very murky to say the least. I had a feeling when I was with them that it sometimes felt like they deliberately want us to take the painful path. I went through this in my head multiple times. "Poison disguised as vaccination part of the suffering required"? Is that what he wants? That's the trial by fire? But if it causes deaths and pain to their followers, aren't the governing body and every authority in the organization involved RESPONSIBLE for the crime"?

Sorry but W T F! I can't understand this. I guess I have a strong conscience and a strong desire to see humanity succeed and prosper. It seriously depresses me. If that's what Jehovah wants I cannot accept such a god. I will gladly accept the punishment at the end. We know the fiery hell is a lie and you'll just die at judgment day right?

I say to people "I used to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I agree with 90% of what they are saying. The 10% I disagree with is the lockdowns and vaccine mandates.". I also say to people this group of people suffered and DIED defying Nazi Hitler! What the hell are they doing now? It absolutely baffles me.

I need to know. This is starting to really worry me. I cannot stay with this group till the end. Maybe this is the path I need to go but most of the "freedom groups" are I believe part of the group that will be deceived as the final veil is taken off. As most aren't even "Christians" at all. Yea creating a new society and all that sounds nice but like Daniel prophesizes, you will go against Jehovah at the final days. I don't want to be part of that.

There are countries in the world that are under extreme oppression and I know it will be opened - such as North Korea. The things Chinese suffer sounds like utopia compared to that country. Because everyone needs to hear the good news. I think if that happens I will go and preach at any cost. The strange and negative feelings about the world I had far back as I can even remember when I was just a child, THIS IS IT! The obsessive need to save in every area(especially) finances for something. This is it! Knowing the real truth of the holy scriptures is hard to explain. You feel special for it.

To be clear I am not afraid of death itself. I want to choose the right path. Everyone saying those who have firm belief in God and his son Jesus feeling content despite being just about to be executed, I can understand that now.

What do I do? What is my path? What is OUR path? Are we doomed as they say?

If I had it happen the way I want it how would things go?: The Jehovah's Witnesses organization will be reprimanded by Jehovah himself and there will be serious upheaval. Then there would be no hesitation. Back to the roots I say!
 
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evw

Well-known member
Hi everyone, I am David. I've been watching and reading this forum for a while. Let me tell you about myself because it's an itch I have to scratch.
-POMO: I got into a deep depression few years ago and I wanted to hurt myself. To be clear, I wanted it to HURT.
-I ended up in a mental hospital for a month in wait for it... Jan of 2020 and got discharged mid February. That's right, when the "mental health professionals" were advising me to go on trips and live life and stuff lockdowns happened less than a month later in March. I was furious.
-I am in Canada.
-I got baptized little before my deep depression.
-My parents have history with the organization. My father started in his teens and is on off. My mom has been one since before I was in kindergarten. They are both regular attendees and believe them fully.

I am extremely greatful that this organization made me realize the TRUTH of all things. And something is not making sense to me with this organization.

I am living off-grid with group of people who are against vaccinations and lockdowns. Some people say "Oh I am not against vaccinations, just forced ones and poison". Forget that, I am against all vaccinations general. I am anti-vax. I probably took a few in childhood years but I was constantly sick for 10 years. After I reached adulthood I can say one thing I have for myself is health. So much for medicine. My policy is hospitals are for life-or-death situations and anything else is just a waste of time.

Like back when I knew that I was at a crossroad choosing to study with the witnesses, I am at one now. This is very serious. The road and guesses have to be correct. It's my life on the line. And I want to see the final days happen and be on the right side.

What "crossroads"? The off-grid people I have associated with come from various backgrounds. I have been valiantly trying to get away from the big city(Vancouver) and I have. Previously one of the groups I was considering joining was a "Christian" group. I couldn't accept that. The one I am in now is like I said from various backgrounds.

I know the great tribulation is coming. The day of Jehovah is at hand! But I know it won't be instant. There are few things that must happen. Before that I must say I am now ready to serve if I know the road is sure, but the JW organization is very murky to say the least. I had a feeling when I was with them that it sometimes felt like they deliberately want us to take the painful path. I went through this in my head multiple times. "Poison disguised as vaccination part of the suffering required"? Is that what he wants? That's the trial by fire? But if it causes deaths and pain to their followers, aren't the governing body and every authority in the organization involved RESPONSIBLE for the crime"?

Sorry but W T F! I can't understand this. I guess I have a strong conscience and a strong desire to see humanity succeed and prosper. It seriously depresses me. If that's what Jehovah wants I cannot accept such a god. I will gladly accept the punishment at the end. We know the fiery hell is a lie and you'll just die at judgment day right?

I say to people "I used to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I agree with 90% of what they are saying. The 10% I disagree with is the lockdowns and vaccine mandates.". I also say to people this group of people suffered and DIED defying Nazi Hitler! What the hell are they doing now? It absolutely baffles me.

I need to know. This is starting to really worry me. I cannot stay with this group till the end. Maybe this is the path I need to go but most of the "freedom groups" are I believe part of the group that will be deceived as the final veil is taken off. As most aren't even "Christians" at all. Yea creating a new society and all that sounds nice but like Daniel prophesizes, you will go against Jehovah at the final days. I don't want to be part of that.

There are countries in the world that are under extreme oppression and I know it will be opened - such as North Korea. The things Chinese suffer sounds like utopia compared to that country. Because everyone needs to hear the good news. I think if that happens I will go and preach at any cost. The strange and negative feelings about the world I had far back as I can even remember when I was just a child, THIS IS IT! The obsessive need to save in every area(especially) finances for something. This is it! Knowing the real truth of the holy scriptures is hard to explain. You feel special for it.

To be clear I am not afraid of death itself. I want to choose the right path. Everyone saying those who have firm belief in God and his son Jesus feeling content despite being just about to be executed, I can understand that now.

What do I do? What is my path? What is OUR path? Are we doomed as they say?

If I had it happen the way I want it how would things go?: The Jehovah's Witnesses organization will be reprimanded by Jehovah himself and there will be serious upheaval. Then there would be no hesitation. Back to the roots I say!
Welcome David and for sharing your story
 

A B

Well-known member
Hi David, nice to meet you.

Everyone who calls on the names Jehovah will be saved. Even though most witnesses are pro C19 vaccine there are a lot who are not. They are mostly quiet about it, (I keep finding new ones). There are some schools that some people can't attend if they are not vaccinated but that is about it right now. The congregation has an organized preaching campaign to help others learn about Jehovah, this way you can save yourself and those who listen to you. There will be many people in the congregation that will respect your decision about vaccination and many others that will communicate from subtle to overt ways they think you are wrong. Just forge stronger friendships with the former. Those friendships can and will be very helpful as the system falls apart.
 

Patricia

Well-known member
Welcome to the forum @DavidCJ .
I won't suggest to anyone to leave or to return to the Watchtower org. or stay in. What I can and will say is:
1) prayer and lots of it, honest, heartfelt prayer.
2) read God's word and meditate on it, study it. Search for Jehovah.
This, coming to KNOW Jehovah, to trust in him completely, not relying on your own power, money, intelligence, or on a group of people or an organization. And to have faith in the shed blood of Jesus Christ to cover your sins and shortcomings. This is what saves. And of course, don't hide your light. Preach the love of God at every opportunity.
I'm sure that you are aware of these things but sometimes we make things more complicated than they are. Lean into Jehovah, he will give you peace. Maybe you are where he wants you, perhaps you can save some of the "off the grid" folks sooner or later. Or maybe not. Keep praying for answers. God is faithful. Hang in there.
 

jay

Well-known member
Hi David, Jehovah loves you. He never meant for us to endure the daily crap that we do. The Brothers and Sisters on this forum will cheer you up if you let them. Jesus promised that he would be with those preaching the good news until he says it is finished. You don't have to worry then what is happening in other parts of the world, He has it covered. Now is the time for all of us to strengthen our faith and love for Jehovah and each other. Have you heard of the book Bro. King wrote? It is very helpful in putting what is happening out there in the world into prospective. Keep your chin up David, we are here for you.
 

Jess

Well-known member
Hi David and welcome! Many here share these same sentiments. Ironically for me, I left the Presbyterian church in part because they began mandating vaccines at Sunday school after the whole Disney measles “outbreak” in California. I was so angry and desperate to find a place that respected this issue. That’s when I began studying with the Witnesses and then took a hard look at things like the Trinity etc. I started reading all about the sanctity of blood and most my teachers and witnesses I knew were anti-vax too! I thought I had finally found what I was looking for and got baptised!

Well, the came the Pandemic 2 years later and the cycle repeated itself. The Covid vaccine issue forced me to look at other issues that I wasnt looking at before. Like 1914 and CSA and Shunning etc.

I guess what I am saying is as much as this issue has hurt so many, it’s also pushing us closer and closer to full Trust in Jehovah and his Son.

See my post about Walking on Water.

Glad you are here Brother. Lots of spiritual food here and wisdom to be shared.
 

DavidCJ

Well-known member
Thank you all for a warm welcome.

I am not totally familiar with everything here. Who's Brother King?

I read things like how the Elders were pressured not to voice their opinions regarding CV19 within the congregation. If true, that sounds like coercion tactics to me. It's a mess.
 

kirmmy

Well-known member
Thank you all for a warm welcome.

I am not totally familiar with everything here. Who's Brother King?

I read things like how the Elders were pressured not to voice their opinions regarding CV19 within the congregation. If true, that sounds like coercion tactics to me. It's a mess.
Welcome David. Interesting background ya got there. You've already gotten lots of good advice so I'll refrain.


Brother Robert King has a series of articles and videos you will find interesting. Some call it "the truth about the truth".
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

Well-known member
Hello David. Good to have you here. Sorry to learn of your MH issues. Learn to love yourself first and allow others to love you when you have. No one can love you if you do not love yourself. Love of self is key to not only loving others and understanding their needs, but of having love to give away. As things stand with your experience, you will possess a healthy amount of empathy. That is a gift to treasure in valuing others. The key to truth is love. The more you give, the more you get back. The common denominator is Jehovah and its application is wisdom. Here is a life boat worth getting in to. It is unsinkable.
 

tenii8

Member
I must be aware. I'm getting pretty worried about this now. I can't finish this journey with this gang. The majority of "freedom groups" are, in my opinion, a part of the people that will be duped once the last veil is lifted, so maybe this is the route I need to pursue. as the majority aren't even genuinely "Christians." Yes, establishing a new society and such things seem good, but as Daniel foretells, you will rebel against Jehovah in the last days.
 

kenmuldoon55

Well-known member
I must be aware. I'm getting pretty worried about this now. I can't finish this journey with this gang. The majority of "freedom groups" are, in my opinion, a part of the people that will be duped once the last veil is lifted, so maybe this is the route I need to pursue. as the majority aren't even genuinely "Christians." Yes, establishing a new society and such things seem good, but as Daniel foretells, you will rebel against Jehovah in the last days.
Welcome tenii8. You’ll find encouragement here from like minded ones although let down by the WT .org continue to hold fast to our Sovereign Lord Jehovah and His son Jesus.
I encourage you to build your faith through Brother King’s exposé’s on the WT.


Or the audio version.

 
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kenmuldoon55

Well-known member
Hi everyone, I am David. I've been watching and reading this forum for a while. Let me tell you about myself because it's an itch I have to scratch.
-POMO: I got into a deep depression few years ago and I wanted to hurt myself. To be clear, I wanted it to HURT.
-I ended up in a mental hospital for a month in wait for it... Jan of 2020 and got discharged mid February. That's right, when the "mental health professionals" were advising me to go on trips and live life and stuff lockdowns happened less than a month later in March. I was furious.
-I am in Canada.
-I got baptized little before my deep depression.
-My parents have history with the organization. My father started in his teens and is on off. My mom has been one since before I was in kindergarten. They are both regular attendees and believe them fully.

I am extremely greatful that this organization made me realize the TRUTH of all things. And something is not making sense to me with this organization.

I am living off-grid with group of people who are against vaccinations and lockdowns. Some people say "Oh I am not against vaccinations, just forced ones and poison". Forget that, I am against all vaccinations general. I am anti-vax. I probably took a few in childhood years but I was constantly sick for 10 years. After I reached adulthood I can say one thing I have for myself is health. So much for medicine. My policy is hospitals are for life-or-death situations and anything else is just a waste of time.

Like back when I knew that I was at a crossroad choosing to study with the witnesses, I am at one now. This is very serious. The road and guesses have to be correct. It's my life on the line. And I want to see the final days happen and be on the right side.

What "crossroads"? The off-grid people I have associated with come from various backgrounds. I have been valiantly trying to get away from the big city(Vancouver) and I have. Previously one of the groups I was considering joining was a "Christian" group. I couldn't accept that. The one I am in now is like I said from various backgrounds.

I know the great tribulation is coming. The day of Jehovah is at hand! But I know it won't be instant. There are few things that must happen. Before that I must say I am now ready to serve if I know the road is sure, but the JW organization is very murky to say the least. I had a feeling when I was with them that it sometimes felt like they deliberately want us to take the painful path. I went through this in my head multiple times. "Poison disguised as vaccination part of the suffering required"? Is that what he wants? That's the trial by fire? But if it causes deaths and pain to their followers, aren't the governing body and every authority in the organization involved RESPONSIBLE for the crime"?

Sorry but W T F! I can't understand this. I guess I have a strong conscience and a strong desire to see humanity succeed and prosper. It seriously depresses me. If that's what Jehovah wants I cannot accept such a god. I will gladly accept the punishment at the end. We know the fiery hell is a lie and you'll just die at judgment day right?

I say to people "I used to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I agree with 90% of what they are saying. The 10% I disagree with is the lockdowns and vaccine mandates.". I also say to people this group of people suffered and DIED defying Nazi Hitler! What the hell are they doing now? It absolutely baffles me.

I need to know. This is starting to really worry me. I cannot stay with this group till the end. Maybe this is the path I need to go but most of the "freedom groups" are I believe part of the group that will be deceived as the final veil is taken off. As most aren't even "Christians" at all. Yea creating a new society and all that sounds nice but like Daniel prophesizes, you will go against Jehovah at the final days. I don't want to be part of that.

There are countries in the world that are under extreme oppression and I know it will be opened - such as North Korea. The things Chinese suffer sounds like utopia compared to that country. Because everyone needs to hear the good news. I think if that happens I will go and preach at any cost. The strange and negative feelings about the world I had far back as I can even remember when I was just a child, THIS IS IT! The obsessive need to save in every area(especially) finances for something. This is it! Knowing the real truth of the holy scriptures is hard to explain. You feel special for it.

To be clear I am not afraid of death itself. I want to choose the right path. Everyone saying those who have firm belief in God and his son Jesus feeling content despite being just about to be executed, I can understand that now.

What do I do? What is my path? What is OUR path? Are we doomed as they say?

If I had it happen the way I want it how would things go?: The Jehovah's Witnesses organization will be reprimanded by Jehovah himself and there will be serious upheaval. Then there would be no hesitation. Back to the roots I say!
And here you are!
Welcome to what I strongly believe is the only small, but growing, group on earth that has truthful insight as to what’s unfolding on the global scene and what’s just ahead.
Bold statement for sure but after considering the spiritual food Brother King has made available, no other conclusion can be drawn.
Faith follows the thing heard.


Or the audio version.

 
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BARNABY THE DOG.

Well-known member
And here you are!
Welcome to what I strongly believe is the only small, but growing, group on earth that has truthful insight as to what’s unfolding on the global scene and what’s just ahead.
Bold statement for sure but after considering the spiritual food Brother King has made available, no other conclusion can be drawn.
Faith follows the thing heard.


Or the audio version.

Very true Ken. I have pondered over what this, by comparison, minuscule group can achieve, or indeed, what difference we could possibly make. It is possibly a conceit on a truly magnificent scale of self-indulgent self-importance to assume that we are anything other than dust upon a pair of scales on the back shelf in a far flung ruin of a cupboard in a dungeon on an asteroid in the furthest reach of the deepest black hole in a corner of a lost universe in another dimension, to assume any importance upon ourselves, but nonetheless, Christ started off with only 12 apostles, and one of those was of somewhat dubious intent. However, I do not think that lends us much credibility in the great scheme of things. I suppose it is no less strange when we consider that well over a half of the eight billion on this earth believe in the concept of a God, and of those four billion, only eight million understand the concept of a true God, and of those eight million, only fifty have any true inkling that they are deceived by eight guys in a luxury apartment in upstate New York. It is a pause for thought. I wonder what the Boreans would have made of it.
 

kenmuldoon55

Well-known member
Very true Ken. I have pondered over what this, by comparison, minuscule group can achieve, or indeed, what difference we could possibly make. It is possibly a conceit on a truly magnificent scale of self-indulgent self-importance to assume that we are anything other than dust upon a pair of scales on the back shelf in a far flung ruin of a cupboard in a dungeon on an asteroid in the furthest reach of the deepest black hole in a corner of a lost universe in another dimension, to assume any importance upon ourselves, but nonetheless, Christ started off with only 12 apostles, and one of those was of somewhat dubious intent. However, I do not think that lends us much credibility in the great scheme of things. I suppose it is no less strange when we consider that well over a half of the eight billion on this earth believe in the concept of a God, and of those four billion, only eight million understand the concept of a true God, and of those eight million, only fifty have any true inkling that they are deceived by eight guys in a luxury apartment in upstate New York. It is a pause for thought. I wonder what the Boreans would have made of it.
“dust upon a pair of scales on the back shelf in a far flung ruin of a cupboard in a dungeon on an asteroid in the furthest reach of the deepest black hole in a corner of a lost universe in another dimension,”

That’s exactly what my drill sergeant used to compare us with back in basic training. 😂

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Eventhorizon

Well-known member
Thank you all for a warm welcome.

I am not totally familiar with everything here. Who's Brother King?

I read things like how the Elders were pressured not to voice their opinions regarding CV19 within the congregation. If true, that sounds like coercion tactics to me. It's a mess.
That is a fact we were. Made us read the letter paragraph by paragraph out loud going around the squares on zoom. Only time I have seen that done.

How many shares of Pfizer does WT have you reckon
 
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