Is AI Demonic?

[Joseph Stephan]

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

Every aspect of human society can be demonic. How far we are pulled into it is the measure of our own spirituality. We cannot remove ourselves from this world, therefore it is required of us to know what is good for us and what is not. We are told to “taste and see “ if Jehovah is good, therefore we need to do just that, through faith. We control ourselves. We do not have to succumb to evil or be influenced by it.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

Every aspect of human society can be demonic. How far we are pulled into it is the measure of our own spirituality. We cannot remove ourselves from this world, therefore it is required of us to know what is good for us and what is not. We are told to “taste and see “ if Jehovah is good, therefore we need to do just that, through faith. We control ourselves. We do not have to succumb to evil or be influenced by it.

Imagine being a 12yr old kid today wanting to understand what life is really about, or if there's really a God etc As much as I complain about the Watchtower and as much as I was "beaten" by many so called brothers and sisters, mostly elders, I'm very grateful that Jehovah started dragging me out of the world when I was 16, then 21, then finally succeeded with me at 25, because amongst all the badness in the organisation, there was enough goodness and good people, for me to learn the truths in the Bible about Jehovah and Jesus and the true meaning of life.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

Imagine being a 12yr old kid today wanting to understand what life is really about, or if there's really a God etc As much as I complain about the Watchtower and as much as I was "beaten" by many so called brothers and sisters, mostly elders, I'm very grateful that Jehovah started dragging me out of the world when I was 16, then 21, then finally succeeded with me at 25, because amongst all the badness in the organisation, there was enough goodness and good people, for me to learn the truths in the Bible about Jehovah and Jesus and the true meaning of life.

That is very true of the society today. I remember watchtower very much as a hierarchy of self interested elders. There was no kindness, but dominance, no understanding, but control of what was understood and religiously repeated at meetings. But under it, as you yourself sense, there was the embryo of truth that was beyond them. When I first joined, there was simply a “presiding overseer” and thus, though he had his ‘followers’ there was not this overpowering “us and them”. As soon as that came in, so did a greater despondency curbed in ritual and “repetition for emphasis”.

When I first came into the truth, it was a beautiful release from the world. I tend to link life experiences to music and what I attached to “the truth” at that time was Dvorak’s New World Symphony. My “other life” was musically attached to Wagner’s, Siegfried’s Funeral March from Gotterammerung of the Ring. The assemblies were lovely - a time of spiritual refreshment but there there was the continual sense of dumbing down and play acting of “experiences” coming in that were hollow and charismatic and certainly bore little resemblance to real life - giving the assembly a resemblance of fairytale thinking. Assemblies by the early 1970s were on the cusp of becoming unattached to the realities required of heart and senses to being alert to one’s spiritual needs.

The “truth book” was the first real step away from the Bible in my opinion, bringing in to the picture uncertain prophecy linked to the days prior to 1975 and bringing into play emotions and hope that had no place in scriptural education. I cannot quite put my finger on what kept me going at that time but it was very much in tune with the concept and truth of the Creator - ethereal almost. One had to sense it because it was missing. In retrospect it was not unlike the events of the release from Egypt for the Israelites in that they went in faith and hope, but found instead a dessert and started to doubt and complain. One was compelled even at that time, to search for Jehovah from within the congregation and the same is true today. It is strange indeed that one has to come out of watchtower now, to see the issues with clarity. It’s not something that is obvious from within. Why else would it be set for destruction?

 

[a believer]

The “truth book” was the first real step away from the Bible in my opinion

I'd have to second your opinion, because while I appreciated that Brother Hamilton had provided me with a copy of Reasoning from the Scriptures because he was getting overwhelmed with all the questions I would ask him in the Way-Back, as he was conducting a Bible study with me (and told me to keep it on the down-low, because apparently, the publication was only for baptized or qualified brothers and sisters), and I did appreciate what the book offered me, it wasn't until I was in the Book Burrow at Lansing's city library and stumbled onto a copy of Make Sure of All Things that I realized that the older publication was the superior one— at least for me.

That's when I felt compelled to start looking for the older literature that I could find in the Book Burrow (donated books from people and obsolete books from the library), which then led to contradictions between what had been published earlier and what was then being published in the magazines that we'd study in the meetings. And down the rabbit hole I went from there.

But a book like Make Sure has staying power because it is focused solely on the Bible. No doctrinal impositions or addressing conversation stoppers, etc. Just subject references to the Bible in a convenient, portable format. (I'm also a fan of the All Scripture tome vs the Insight on the Scriptures 2-volume set. Admittedly, the Insight volumes are easier to read.

Somewhere along the way, the effort moved from exploring and preaching scripture into defending the organization doctrine and creed. /smh

The April 2026 Watchtower, page 11 paragraph 10 boasts: "Jehovah is gathering lovers of truth by means of the greatest witnessing work that the world has ever seen" but neither Deb nor myself have seen Witnesses in our neighborhood since a couple years before COVID, and certainly not since COVID. Gone are the days, it seems, when we'd see brothers and sisters somewhere around Perry on any given weekend, at someone's door (and occasionally stopping by ours). The local Kingdom Hall is now divided into several insurance businesses, and the local Witnesses now have to drive to Corunna, some 30+ minutes away for meetings.

If this is the "greatest witnesses work that the world has ever seen" then I'm a bit underwhelmed. Maybe they meant in the past tense.

—Timothy,
a believer.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

I'd have to second your opinion, because while I appreciated that Brother Hamilton had provided me with a copy of Reasoning from the Scriptures because he was getting overwhelmed with all the questions I would ask him in the Way-Back, as he was conducting a Bible study with me (and told me to keep it on the down-low, because apparently, the publication was only for baptized or qualified brothers and sisters), and I did appreciate what the book offered me, it wasn't until I was in the Book Burrow at Lansing's city library and stumbled onto a copy of Make Sure of All Things that I realized that the older publication was the superior one— at least for me.

That's when I felt compelled to start looking for the older literature that I could find in the Book Burrow (donated books from people and obsolete books from the library), which then led to contradictions between what had been published earlier and what was then being published in the magazines that we'd study in the meetings. And down the rabbit hole I went from there.

But a book like Make Sure has staying power because it is focused solely on the Bible. No doctrinal impositions or addressing conversation stoppers, etc. Just subject references to the Bible in a convenient, portable format. (I'm also a fan of the All Scripture tome vs the Insight on the Scriptures 2-volume set. Admittedly, the Insight volumes are easier to read.

Somewhere along the way, the effort moved from exploring and preaching scripture into defending the organization doctrine and creed. /smh

The April 2026 Watchtower, page 11 paragraph 10 boasts: "Jehovah is gathering lovers of truth by means of the greatest witnessing work that the world has ever seen" but neither Deb nor myself have seen Witnesses in our neighborhood since a couple years before COVID, and certainly not since COVID. Gone are the days, it seems, when we'd see brothers and sisters somewhere around Perry on any given weekend, at someone's door (and occasionally stopping by ours). The local Kingdom Hall is now divided into several insurance businesses, and the local Witnesses now have to drive to Corunna, some 30+ minutes away for meetings.

If this is the "greatest witnesses work that the world has ever seen" then I'm a bit underwhelmed. Maybe they meant in the past tense.

—Timothy,
a believer.

On reflection I often feel that if watchtower actually preached, believed and promoted the depth of thinking of the Word, along with the actual practice of it, even with what little we have learnt from the scripture; that would have been sufficient to meet the requirements that Jehovah has set for us in these days. Love in understanding of the Word - how simple but difficult that can be but what a gift it is to understand it.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

I'd have to second your opinion, because while I appreciated that Brother Hamilton had provided me with a copy of Reasoning from the Scriptures because he was getting overwhelmed with all the questions I would ask him in the Way-Back, as he was conducting a Bible study with me (and told me to keep it on the down-low, because apparently, the publication was only for baptized or qualified brothers and sisters), and I did appreciate what the book offered me, it wasn't until I was in the Book Burrow at Lansing's city library and stumbled onto a copy of Make Sure of All Things that I realized that the older publication was the superior one— at least for me.

That's when I felt compelled to start looking for the older literature that I could find in the Book Burrow (donated books from people and obsolete books from the library), which then led to contradictions between what had been published earlier and what was then being published in the magazines that we'd study in the meetings. And down the rabbit hole I went from there.

But a book like Make Sure has staying power because it is focused solely on the Bible. No doctrinal impositions or addressing conversation stoppers, etc. Just subject references to the Bible in a convenient, portable format. (I'm also a fan of the All Scripture tome vs the Insight on the Scriptures 2-volume set. Admittedly, the Insight volumes are easier to read.

Somewhere along the way, the effort moved from exploring and preaching scripture into defending the organization doctrine and creed. /smh

The April 2026 Watchtower, page 11 paragraph 10 boasts: "Jehovah is gathering lovers of truth by means of the greatest witnessing work that the world has ever seen" but neither Deb nor myself have seen Witnesses in our neighborhood since a couple years before COVID, and certainly not since COVID. Gone are the days, it seems, when we'd see brothers and sisters somewhere around Perry on any given weekend, at someone's door (and occasionally stopping by ours). The local Kingdom Hall is now divided into several insurance businesses, and the local Witnesses now have to drive to Corunna, some 30+ minutes away for meetings.

If this is the "greatest witnesses work that the world has ever seen" then I'm a bit underwhelmed. Maybe they meant in the past tense.

—Timothy,
a believer.

Make Sure of all Things, and the All Scripture Inspired books were 2 of my favourites too!! They're probably "apostate" literature now but I loved them and still do

 

[a believer]

Make Sure of all Things, and the All Scripture Inspired books were 2 of my favourites too!! They're probably "apostate" literature now but I loved them and still do

Off-topic, I knooooow, but I was confusing myself. I was thinking of the Aid to Bible Understanding tome. Duh-me! Later replaced by the Insight 2-volume set. The Aid book is the one I fell in like with as a reference work. All in one volume, too. Rock solid reference work there!

But back to the All Scripture book, yes, that shares space on the bookshelf to my right, next to the Aid and Insight volumes. I was especially smitten with the articles on Time, in the back, though. Right up my alley, those were. And remain so.

I've always been of the opinion that the Watchtower Society did a decent enough job with capsulizing the Bible in the space of All Scripture, as well. But those articles on Time...? Oh yeah!

What this has to do with whether AI is demonic, I've no idea. Off-topic alert! LOL

—Timothy,
a believer.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

Off-topic, I knooooow, but I was confusing myself. I was thinking of the Aid to Bible Understanding tome. Duh-me! Later replaced by the Insight 2-volume set. The Aid book is the one I fell in like with as a reference work. All in one volume, too. Rock solid reference work there!

But back to the All Scripture book, yes, that shares space on the bookshelf to my right, next to the Aid and Insight volumes. I was especially smitten with the articles on Time, in the back, though. Right up my alley, those were. And remain so.

I've always been of the opinion that the Watchtower Society did a decent enough job with capsulizing the Bible in the space of All Scripture, as well. But those articles on Time...? Oh yeah!

What this has to do with whether AI is demonic, I've no idea. Off-topic alert! LOL

—Timothy,
a believer.

Yes! I loved the Aid book too! The information on the Flood is amazing, I never met anyone else who was as excited as me about the flood info well, it's actually under "deluge" Yes, I remember the info about time too. And you're right, where else can you find all this scriptural information eh? I never found anywhere else, although the Two Babylons, which wasn't theirs, was very interesting too. I'm sure if we keep searching, we'll find something about AI being demonic

 

[Dave Bannister]

but to whose standard; that's the million dollar questions...

I would like to see that person or people that are considered righteous in Jehovah's eyes. I think back to Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis with the aspect of righteousness. Is the present day any better than that time? I doubt it, and it may be worse with the trans agenda, gender identity, and the absolute disregard for traditional marriage and so on. Technology has also opened up a whole new world of depravity too. The children growing up now are sometimes being taught by the rabid blue haired liberal types. That's scary, and it shouldn't be allowed.

 

[Dave Bannister]

-The AI knows Bible more than the average Christian church goers
-AI is absolutely, horrendously evil
-AI is a tool

What is it then?

D: All of the Above

The modern "AI" is only possible due to incalculable amounts of data harvested. All human made. It is basically entire humanity that's represented by a single entity. We humans have a unique tendency, sometimes a flaw to anthropomorphize everything.

I believe Robert has talked about this recently. AI is certainly part of the beast system. You can Google something and AI comes up. I sense that it will be involved with the image of the beast. It will be interesting to see how it all unfolds. Bill Gates applauds AI, and for the lessening need for people to work. He expects that to happen in ten years. I'm sure he has our best interests at heart.

 

[Edith]

taught by the rabid blue haired liberal types.

You don't want to know what kind of 'education' is given here. Babies aged 2, 3 and 4 are forced into sexual interaction. While the fanatically panting blue-haired liberal sits with his legs apart on the 'teacher's table'.
I can only feel deeply sorry and horror for the generation growing up now and the parents who have to tolerate this.
You're right it shouldn't be allowed, but well here we are...

 

[kenmuldoon55]

Exactly, that's why innocent people, like my daughter says she is, don't need to be concerned about the millions of cameras, if that's the REAL reason they're bringing them in.. but we know it's NOT..

Like in China, no doubt facial recognition will be used to track everyone’s movements and is potentially a tool of restricting movement (think 15 minute digital prison cities) giving fines or imprisonment to violators. Right now they’ll claim it’s for benevolent purposes (public safety) but in the end it’s a tool of control.

Chinese citizens generally enjoy freedom of movement within the country—residing, working, and traveling between provinces—subject to a range of administrative controls, registration requirements, and occasional restrictions tied to public order, national security, epidemic control, or hukou (household registration).

[These controls mean freedom of movement is broad in practice but conditioned by formal procedures and local enforcement.]

Density and Surveillance: Cities like Beijing have around 800,000 cameras, while others like Chongqing have over 2.6 million, making them the most heavily monitored in the world.
Technology Integration: The cameras are integrated with artificial intelligence,, AI facial recognition, and the social credit system to track individuals in real time.

 

[Dave Bannister]

Like in China, no doubt facial recognition will be used to track everyone’s movements and is potentially a tool of restricting movement (think 15 minute digital prison cities) giving fines or imprisonment to violators. Right now they’ll claim it’s for benevolent purposes (public safety) but in the end it’s a tool of control.

Chinese citizens generally enjoy freedom of movement within the country—residing, working, and traveling between provinces—subject to a range of administrative controls, registration requirements, and occasional restrictions tied to public order, national security, epidemic control, or hukou (household registration).

[These controls mean freedom of movement is broad in practice but conditioned by formal procedures and local enforcement.]

Who is ultimately in control? Jehovah

 

[kenmuldoon55]

Who is ultimately in control? Jehovah

Who knows even our thoughts before we do.

 

[Dave Bannister]

Who knows even our thoughts before we do.

An all knowing God.

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

Like in China, no doubt facial recognition will be used to track everyone’s movements and is potentially a tool of restricting movement (think 15 minute digital prison cities) giving fines or imprisonment to violators. Right now they’ll claim it’s for benevolent purposes (public safety) but in the end it’s a tool of control.

Chinese citizens generally enjoy freedom of movement within the country—residing, working, and traveling between provinces—subject to a range of administrative controls, registration requirements, and occasional restrictions tied to public order, national security, epidemic control, or hukou (household registration).

[These controls mean freedom of movement is broad in practice but conditioned by formal procedures and local enforcement.]

Density and Surveillance: Cities like Beijing have around 800,000 cameras, while others like Chongqing have over 2.6 million, making them the most heavily monitored in the world.
Technology Integration: The cameras are integrated with artificial intelligence,, AI facial recognition, and the social credit system to track individuals in real time.

This is quite interesting Ken..

 

[Joseph Stephan]

 

[Edith]

Thank you brother.

 

[Ana]

Imagínese ser un niño de 12 años hoy queriendo entender qué es realmente la vida, o si realmente hay un Dios, etc. Por mucho que me queje de la Watchtower y por mucho que fui "golpeado" por muchos de los llamados hermanos y hermanas, en su mayoría ancianos, estoy muy agradecido de que Jehová comenzó a sacarme del mundo cuando tenía 16 años, luego 21, y finalmente tuvo éxito conmigo a los 25, porque entre toda la maldad en la organización, había suficiente bondad y buena gente, para que yo aprendiera las verdades de la Biblia sobre Jehová y Jesús y el verdadero significado de la vida.

Y en cambio aprendí del amor de Jehová entre los que estaban siendo golpeados en la congregación. Todo el amor que sentí fue una supervivencia y una lucha por hacer entender que es a Jehová a quien debemos adoración exclusiva y no a los hombres. Una organización donde si eras mujer, y nosotras eramos 5 y en pleno crecimiento al nacer en la WT, podías ser tratada como mercancía a dominar. Siempre éramos la perversa Eva intentando engañar al pobre Adán. Pobre Adán, pobre Sansón, pobrecitos todos ellos que hacían cualquier cosa para estar al lado de una mujer bonita por el simple hecho de poseer la belleza. Me recordaron al diablo tantas veces, tan hermoso en medio de su llamado paraíso espiritual, deseando poseer la belleza de una creación inferior para simplemente rebajarla de su propósito original para ejercer su dominio sobre ellas, olvidando que ese solo fue la parte de un castigo divino hacia nosotras y que nació como consecuencia de la desobediencia del Edén. Como si no hubieran pecado los dos, nosotras siempre pecamos más. Como si yo tuviese derecho a decir a mi marido, trabaja! ¡Que ese fue tu castigo! Qué simple y banal toda su gerarquía institucional, plagada de injusticias.
Menos mal que el amor de Jesús fue lámpara esplendorosa otorgando privilegios igualitarios al bendecir con la unción tanto a hombres como a mujeres que reinarán sobre la tierra, siendo pioneras en anunciar como la de Magdala que nuestro señor había vuelto de entre los muertos. Que loca María, que dice! Siempre nosotras tan locas...

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

Y en cambio aprendí del amor de Jehová entre los que estaban siendo golpeados en la congregación. Todo el amor que sentí fue una supervivencia y una lucha por hacer entender que es a Jehová a quien debemos adoración exclusiva y no a los hombres. Una organización donde si eras mujer, y nosotras eramos 5 y en pleno crecimiento al nacer en la WT, podías ser tratada como mercancía a dominar. Siempre éramos la perversa Eva intentando engañar al pobre Adán. Pobre Adán, pobre Sansón, pobrecitos todos ellos que hacían cualquier cosa para estar al lado de una mujer bonita por el simple hecho de poseer la belleza. Me recordaron al diablo tantas veces, tan hermoso en medio de su llamado paraíso espiritual, deseando poseer la belleza de una creación inferior para simplemente rebajarla de su propósito original para ejercer su dominio sobre ellas, olvidando que ese solo fue la parte de un castigo divino hacia nosotras y que nació como consecuencia de la desobediencia del Edén. Como si no hubieran pecado los dos, nosotras siempre pecamos más. Como si yo tuviese derecho a decir a mi marido, trabaja! ¡Que ese fue tu castigo! Qué simple y banal toda su gerarquía institucional, plagada de injusticias.
Menos mal que el amor de Jesús fue lámpara esplendorosa otorgando privilegios igualitarios al bendecir con la unción tanto a hombres como a mujeres que reinarán sobre la tierra, siendo pioneras en anunciar como la de Magdala que nuestro señor había vuelto de entre los muertos. Que loca María, que dice! Siempre nosotras tan locas...

¡Qué locas somos! Todo lo que dijiste, Ana, es muy cierto; en el mundo también piensan así (la mayoría, no todos). Así que era de esperar que fuera diferente dentro de la organización de Jah, ¡porque ellos saben más! ¿Esos locos, eh?

 

[Joseph Stephan]

 

[Dave Bannister]

This is one guy who wants to shape our future. Notice anything?

 

[Proverbs 14 v 15]

This is one guy who wants to shape our future. Notice anything?

He probably just wants a wee

 

[SusanB]

Revelation 13:11-15: “Then I saw another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking like a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the first wild beast in its sight. And it makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first wild beast, whose mortal wound was healed. And it performs great signs, even making fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind. It misleads those who dwell on the earth, because of the signs that it was permitted to perform in the sight of the wild beast, while it tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast that had the sword-stroke and yet revived. And it was permitted to give breath to the image of the wild beast, so that the image of the wild beast should both speak and cause to be killed all those who refuse to worship the image of the wild beast.”

No doubt the image will care deeply about “truth and beauty”.

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