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Asadour

Well-known member
Isaiah 1:21: “How the faithful city has become a prostitute! She was full of justice; Righteousness used to lodge in her, But now murderers.”
i was reading an e-watchman article last night the quoted this verse- it was dated for 2014 IIRC.

My how a few years brings this prophecy into full fulfillment with pinpoint accuracy.

It’s faith strengthing yet profoundly sad that our brothers and sisters are being sold- shepherd the flock for slaughter. this is not to say any cog diss is involved- we know these things are prophecied and must take place.

Nobody but Jehovah could have foreseen anything like this happening.
 

Driven

Well-known member
i was reading an e-watchman article last night the quoted this verse- it was dated for 2014 IIRC.

My how a few years brings this prophecy into full fulfillment with pinpoint accuracy.

It’s faith strengthing yet profoundly sad that our brothers and sisters are being sold- shepherd the flock for slaughter. this is not to say any cog diss is involved- we know these things are prophecied and must take place.

Nobody but Jehovah could have foreseen anything like this happening.
Yes, it is sooo soooo sad and hurtful to see anyone suffering. Especially our spiritual brothers and sisters. But truth be told it is their idolatry of the GB that has contributed to this. We want to save everyone but we cannot save anyone, only Jehovah and his Son can.
 

Asadour

Well-known member
Yes, it is sooo soooo sad and hurtful to see anyone suffering. Especially our spiritual brothers and sisters. But truth be told it is their idolatry of the GB that has contributed to this. We want to save everyone but we cannot save anyone, only Jehovah and his Son can.
you’re so right. Back when i realized all the close friends in my circle of friends in the cong were considering getting or had already gotten the shot, i was trying to convince them, to stop them- to “save” them i guess. Not one of them changed their mind as the result of anything of the things i said. on the contrary. i was marked now.

I still sit here and think to myself- of all people that should have known better- of ALL PEOPLE- it should have been Jehovah’s people. That was then.

the ONLY thing that explains this is what you said- their idolatry of WT and the Gov Body. Someone even asked me who my favorite Gov Body member was. Huh??????

One sister that i adore- she was family to me- often said “the slave says this and the slave says that”, leaving me plain stupefied.
 

CyndiaS

Active member
Just to keep all you friends updated. A brother, who used to be the Presiding Overseer in my congregation but moved to an Illocano speaking congregation, had a heart attack this morning and is in critical condition. I have no doubt he was vaccinated since he is a “company man” through and through. I pray and hope that he recovers.

UPDATE: This Elder (brother) came through his surgery successfully and he now has a pace maker and stint. He is still in ICU for now.

Later Update: The family was informed that this brother will not make it. His heart was too damaged.

Final Update: Our brother died. Incredibly sad.
💔 😭
 

Jah-son

Well-known member
I don’t know but I just heard again today about an Elder in the local congregation whose fleshly cousin, about 40 yrs old I would guess, also dropped dead of a heart attack while fishing this week.
Not to be gross but when these poor folks are growing these fibrous masses inside their arteries, it's just a matter of time before they drop.
I'm wondering if these "clots" that embalmer Richard Hirschman is pulling out of the circulatory systems of injection victims is some new form of circulatory system cancer. It certainly seems so.
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LifeLearning

Well-known member
I'm wondering if these "clots" that embalmer Richard Hirschman is pulling out of the circulatory systems of injection victims is some new form of circulatory system cancer.
There are some sources of information that no amount of spin will allow the powerful ruling cabal to hide.

I spoke to a sister from the local hall recently and she commented that 25,000 JW's have died from covid. I asked her, how many of those died from covid vs. with covid. She had no idea what I was asking and started quoting WT/GB talking points.

How can one minister to the lost sheep if you know nothing about what you speak?
 

Driven

Well-known member
There are some sources of information that no amount of spin will allow the powerful ruling cabal to hide.

I spoke to a sister from the local hall recently and she commented that 25,000 JW's have died from covid. I asked her, how many of those died from covid vs. with covid. She had no idea what I was asking and started quoting WT/GB talking points.

How can one minister to the lost sheep if you know nothing about what you speak?
Exactly why they will only understand by terror. They left their thinking abilities at the KH door. They apparently want someone else to just tell them what to do and then they blindly follow that advice without reasoning on it or “testing” it out by investigating the information. That is a problem.
 

Nomex

Well-known member
I spoke to a sister from the local hall recently and she commented that 25,000 JW's have died from covid. I asked her, how many of those died from covid vs. with covid. She had no idea what I was asking and started quoting WT/GB talking points.
That was the first thing that I heard when I pushed back against to this whole propaganda nonsense. And as they say, hind sight is 20/20. The best way to answer that propaganda is by asking "How many of them were 70 or 80?" Without knowing that the number it is meaningless. How many brothers died the year before Covid, and the year before that? We don't know because no one was counting. But again the number is meaningless without putting it in context! The truth is, that number is inflated by at least 80%, but to real drive the nail into the coffin, no pun intended, 25,000 brothers only represent 1/3 of 1% of the 8.5 million Witnesses world wide. That should, to any reasonable person suck the air right of of the sails of this fear porn! The entire fear mongering is backed by complete deceptive propaganda with only one agenda, cause fear in order to see how much they could control the masses!

But let me really screw up their giant hoax just a little bit more! 25,000 in two years! So cut that in half, that means only 1/6 of 1% died per year from "Covid", and again the real number is 80% less! Not much of a pandemic. BTW, this is the reason they reported daily the "Covid cases" and not Covid deaths in the news!

It's just one giant screw job, that just proves how stupid humans are under Satan's government and how easy he control them.

To anyone who actually believes that Satan is the "father of the lie" and believes "the whole world lies in the power of the wicked one", you should be ashamed that you were so easily deceived! Like I keep saying, "when did Satan stop lying, and when did he stop controlling the governments?

This is why the whole Romans 13 garbage the GB has pushed just doesn't hold water and was never what Paul meant!
 

Jah-son

Well-known member
what on earth. . . ?
This is from a recent video interview that Dr Jane Ruby did with the embalmer mentioned. You can find it on Rumble under Jane Ruby or Stew Peters channels. She interviewed him several months ago and last week did a follow up. He is not the only embalmer pulling these out of the injection victims. They are trying to get them analysed to find out what they are composed of. No one knows yet. They seem to form from the clotting blood. It looks like a tumor to me. MRNa induced Arterial tumor?
 

Driven

Well-known member
That was the first thing that I heard when I pushed back against to this whole propaganda nonsense. And as they say, hind sight is 20/20. The best way to answer that propaganda is by asking "How many of them were 70 or 80?" Without knowing that the number it is meaningless. How many brothers died the year before Covid, and the year before that? We don't know because no one was counting. But again the number is meaningless without putting it in context! The truth is, that number is inflated by at least 80%, but to real drive the nail into the coffin, no pun intended, 25,000 brothers only represent 1/3 of 1% of the 8.5 million Witnesses world wide. That should, to any reasonable person suck the air right of of the sails of this fear porn! The entire fear mongering is backed by complete deceptive propaganda with only one agenda, cause fear in order to see how much they could control the masses!

But let me really screw up their giant hoax just a little bit more! 25,000 in two years! So cut that in half, that means only 1/6 of 1% died per year from "Covid", and again the real number is 80% less! Not much of a pandemic. BTW, this is the reason they reported daily the "Covid cases" and not Covid deaths in the news!

It's just one giant screw job, that just proves how stupid humans are under Satan's government and how easy he control them.

To anyone who actually believes that Satan is the "father of the lie" and believes "the whole world lies in the power of the wicked one", you should be ashamed that you were so easily deceived! Like I keep saying, "when did Satan stop lying, and when did he stop controlling the governments?

This is why the whole Romans 13 garbage the GB has pushed just doesn't hold water and was never what Paul meant!
Anyone who is honest must say that these type of “statistics” that have been pushed by the GB is nothing but propaganda and it is from those claiming to “love” us. I don’t propagandize anyone and especially someone I love. I tell them the truth. It is this type of garbage that made me realize they know they are lying and it is to control people. We can all take a guess as to why but the scriptures themselves say the shepherds will “sell” the sheep. And, the media has exposed that the government paid “churches” to push the vaccine. All circumstantial and some on this forum have insinuated that I have an axe to grind, but it is insulting to me that someone would try to manipulate me with lies.
 

kirmmy

Well-known member
Not to be gross but when these poor folks are growing these fibrous masses inside their arteries, it's just a matter of time before they drop.
I'm wondering if these "clots" that embalmer Richard Hirschman is pulling out of the circulatory systems of injection victims is some new form of circulatory system cancer. It certainly seems so.
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That looks like those Worms in Men in Black.
Bizarre!
some on this forum have insinuated that I have an axe to grind
That would be the last thing I'd say about you Mama Bear.
 

LifeLearning

Well-known member
"How many of them were 70 or 80?" Without knowing that the number it is meaningless. How many brothers died the year before Covid, and the year before that?
The discussion about covid started with this sister saying how necessary is was that the hall was shut because of covid. Her support for that assertion was that 25,000 JWs died. My next question was: How many JW's die every year, how many before covid like say 2018? (getting to the only fact that cannot be twisted: "all cause mortality")

That was the end of the discussion. The sister's demeanor was no longer that of encouragement after I said that. Her tone changed, and she could not get away fast enough. The WT did not prepare her with a response for that question so I think she felt cornered.

What should I do: should I avoid asking about these things because it is troubling to my minister? It is the very WT Doctrine that is making unity impossible, not my questions. I want to be united with the congregation, but I would have to drink myself silly to be able to associate.

Last thought: I know there is an operation of error within the watchtower, but I am not taking any comfort in it's downfall. It is heart breaking.
 

Driven

Well-known member
The discussion about covid started with this sister saying how necessary is was that the hall was shut because of covid. Her support for that assertion was that 25,000 JWs died. My next question was: How many JW's die every year, how many before covid like say 2018? (getting to the only fact that cannot be twisted: "all cause mortality")

That was the end of the discussion. The sister's demeanor was no longer that of encouragement after I said that. Her tone changed, and she could not get away fast enough. The WT did not prepare her with a response for that question so I think she felt cornered.

What should I do: should I avoid asking about these things because it is troubling to my minister? It is the very WT Doctrine that is making unity impossible, not my questions. I want to be united with the congregation, but I would have to drink myself silly to be able to associate.

Last thought: I know there is an operation of error within the watchtower, but I am not taking any comfort in it's downfall. It is heart breaking.
I think you did the right thing. You didn’t attack her but you were honest with her by posing an honest and logical question. I’m pretty sure Jesus would have done the same. Matthew 10:34: “Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword”. I think thoughtful questions are exactly the way to get them to consider what they are doing.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

Well-known member
The discussion about covid started with this sister saying how necessary is was that the hall was shut because of covid. Her support for that assertion was that 25,000 JWs died. My next question was: How many JW's die every year, how many before covid like say 2018? (getting to the only fact that cannot be twisted: "all cause mortality")

That was the end of the discussion. The sister's demeanor was no longer that of encouragement after I said that. Her tone changed, and she could not get away fast enough. The WT did not prepare her with a response for that question so I think she felt cornered.

What should I do: should I avoid asking about these things because it is troubling to my minister? It is the very WT Doctrine that is making unity impossible, not my questions. I want to be united with the congregation, but I would have to drink myself silly to be able to associate.

Last thought: I know there is an operation of error within the watchtower, but I am not taking any comfort in it's downfall. It is heart breaking.
‘but I would have to drink myself silly to be able to associate.’ Maybe that accounts for Morris buying so much drink! Maybe he is being misjudged!
 
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