JW woman stabbed her baby to death

Sunshower

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i just can’t assume they are this, well, dumb.

Everything the GOV body says and does in front of JWs is scripted, choreographed and rehearsed. If an ordinary person can imagine the implications, so can it jointly, and each member of this body, .

I am not going to sit here and say that the Gov Body is merely a victim of its own propaganda. It creates the propaganda and disseminates it accordingly amongst JWs.
@Something Borrowed and I have been talking about this a lot the past week or so.

Bethel is an echo chamber. If you never let different opinions be heard, you get disconnected from other people and what is discussed it the echo chamber might sound normal to the ones in it but it sounds ludicrous to the ones outside.
That’s why Jehovah used prophets from outside Jerusalem. The ones in the city could never believe or say that the temple would be destroyed, twice! Jehovah always uses outsiders. Look at Robert. They told him he couldn’t possibly be right cause he is not a member of the GB (echo chamber).

If you were a candle maker, even the very best there was, you wouldn’t have been able to invent the light bulb. Why not? You wouldn’t feel the need, as you made candles. The Bible doesn’t state that “Plans fail when there is no consultation, But there is accomplishment through many advisers.” (Proverbs 15:22).

The Bethel echo chamber doesn’t have many advisers, they have the same group over and over again. And if you don’t fit in, they’ll kick you out. How are they expected ever to accomplish good plans? They can’t.
 
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יהוה_saves

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I know some that had a reasonable and balanced view that were not truly anticipating 1975 would be "it".
Those that didn’t buy into the 1975 false prediction lock stock and barrel, were marginalized. Their only option, if they didn’t want to appear wayward, was to keep silent. Perhaps even that was perceived as spiritually weak, as the Kingdom Ministry praised those who divested their entire life’s worth in preparation for “it”, as you describe.

Fast forward mid winter of 2021- JWs lining up en masse for an injection they must rely solely on corrupted, formerly felon, convicted Big Pharm and the corrupted govt, for its ingredients information - Pfizer execs are convicted felons. Do JWs not know that? JWs have a fiduciary duty to themselves and each other to know this amd act accordingly. There is no excuse. Except this time, remaining silent on this vast error is not enough.
 

יהוה_saves

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@xrt469

you’re absolutely right. They never mandated 1975- but they mandated this shot, i don’t care how they phrase it, they mandated it for all full time servants and Bethels.

It’s fully integrated as part of WT culture now because the personal decision is NOT and was never whether to take the injections, the personal decision from the outset, is does the JW wish to be accepted as part of the congregation? Does he wish to be suitable for roles in the congregation? In other words, does he wish to BE a JW?

see Kingdom Bulletin 19, end of paragraph 3
 

Patricia

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@xrt469

you’re absolutely right. They never mandated 1975- but they mandated this shot, i don’t care how they phrase it, they mandated it for all full time servants and Bethels.

It’s fully integrated as part of WT culture now because the personal decision is NOT and was never whether to take the injections, the personal decision from the outset, is does the JW wish to be accepted as part of the congregation? Does he wish to be suitable for roles in the congregation? In other words, does he wish to BE a JW?

see Kingdom Bulletin 19, end of paragraph 3
I probably already said this somewhere but in '75 I was told if I didn't hurry up and get baptized I would die along with all the worldly people, in Armageddon. So it was a kind of, scare ya into doing things, kind of thing in our congregation.
 

יהוה_saves

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I probably already said this somewhere but in '75 I was told if I didn't hurry up and get baptized I would die along with all the worldly people, in Armageddon. So it was a kind of, scare ya into doing things, kind of thing in our congregation.
how awful. I’m sorry you had to be subjected to that. I didn’t come into the truth until 1994- and 1975 was so important, it was a life or death proposition, yet how come i wouldn’t learn of this until May 2022? Lol. It’s just bending.

This is the very same net effect that Lett’s words about children being “little enemies of God” will have. In fact, it’s intentional- hurry up and get baptized at 4 years old now, cause you surely don’t want to be an enemy of God, now do you.
 
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