Masks at meeting

Meticulous

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It was strange to sit at meeting for the first time this week. It was hard to read this years scriptural text on the screen, "Those seeking Jehovah will lack nothing good." Reading that while suffocating behind a "recommended" mask (emphasis on the explanation points) made it impossible to want to return again. I really don't have to wear it I know that... But I'd rather just not attend. Fear of man? Or just completely jaded? Does anyone else here feel the same?
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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It was strange to sit at meeting for the first time this week. It was hard to read this years scriptural text on the screen, "Those seeking Jehovah will lack nothing good." Reading that while suffocating behind a "recommended" mask (emphasis on the explanation points) made it impossible to want to return again. I really don't have to wear it I know that... But I'd rather just not attend. Fear of man? Or just completely jaded? Does anyone else here feel the same?
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Soul Sage

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I feel like I'm living a lie whenever Im pressured into wearing a mask. It's virtue signaling above all else and based on lies and a false sense of security for those who are uninformed and ignorant. And I'll say this... Wearing a mask and thinking it will prevent you from getting sick is a conspiracy theory. Since people like calling us that for refusing to get vaccinated. Vaccination is not supposed to be the new baptism and neither should masking. It honestly makes us look like lunatics, especially when the states end mask mandates and the CDC admits cloth masks don't work and mask contamination is an immunity destroyer. It's no wonder I feel less healthy when I wear a mask for hours within a day. I liken it to flat earth believers. And besides, Jehovah gave us all a mask, an invisible mask called immunity. And for those who have a very poor immune system. Just stay home. At kingdom halls attendance is low in the hall. The GB should know that if they want more meeting attendance at the hall instead of on zoom, leave masks as a personal choice. Otherwise it divides the congregation. The anti maskers will prefer to stay on Zoom.
 

4JahandChrist

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It was strange to sit at meeting for the first time this week. It was hard to read this years scriptural text on the screen, "Those seeking Jehovah will lack nothing good." Reading that while suffocating behind a "recommended" mask (emphasis on the explanation points) made it impossible to want to return again. I really don't have to wear it I know that... But I'd rather just not attend. Fear of man? Or just completely jaded? Does anyone else here feel the same?
Howdy Met. You're not alone on this front. I have been in quite a bit of isolation from the Org attending meetings on Zoom anonymously and have just got back from an extended Internet Sabbatical whereby I tried to cut off all outside influences to try and get my head into the scriptures for answers.

As you said, I could read my rights and not wear it but by nature I don't like to make other Brothers feel awkward or uncomfortable if I can possibly avoid it. I don't know if this counts as fear of man or more a desire not to hurt any one's feelings. :unsure:

The last meeting I attended on Zoom was a real eye opener. Before in person meetings resumed the pre Zoom convos were very scripted....kind of like those cringey Circuit Assembly demonstrations where everything is over acted and somewhat "Pleasantville".

But now the Brothers are chatting candidly and we still have almost half of the Cong still not attending in person.

Listening to the older ones chat away on Zoom I had no idea how genuinely afraid they were of "Covid" and how much they genuinely believe everything the Media/Government is saying.

Here is a selection of the pre meeting Zoom comments as close as I can get them to verbatim

Elder John " I can't believe how many people around town are not wearing masks. Just because restrictions have lifted doesn't mean we should stop wearing them. "

Old Brother "Oh I know. I carry a mask everywhere I go. I always wear mine no matter what"

Elder John " I always wear mine too. "

Sister No 1 " Well, I tried to get my 4th Jab today but they are prioritizing for those over 67....I'm only 65.....Darn!! "

Sister No 2 " Well my 11 year old granddaughter has just got Covid but she's not that sick"

Sister No 1 "Is she Vaccinated?"

Sister No 2 " Oh yes the whole family is vaccinated. That's why she didn't get so sick"

Elder John "Yes the vaccines don't stop you getting the Virus but they stop you from ending up dead"

Older Brother "Yes. I've just had my Fourth Dose. I don't want to end up dead either".

Sitting listening to that I felt sad and angry at the same time. I felt so sorry for the fear they were experiencing but angry at elements in the World and our "Mcfat" (thanks for that one Dog ) Org that have helped to embellish it.


What gets me with the Cult of the Trance Covidians is that they are more than entitled to state why we should wear masks but if we were to quote our position to them we are spreading "misinformation". We have the Freedom to agree with their contrived narrative and nothing more.

Like you, I am feeling discouraged at the thought of attending. The hybrid Covidian people there are now so far away from my general Worldview and Scriptural outlook that I don't feel that cherished kindred feeling I enjoyed as a young bloke in the 1990's. Part of that was my own self delusion but also I do believe there was a much freer form of communication in the Org back then.

The other thing is that 95% of the Community aren't wearing them and were glad to see the end of them. So why are JWs of all people the most Mask fanatical group in the City? I guess they are thinking that they are going the extra mile for love of neighbour but all the Scientific research I have seen says that is Bollicks.

Besides which, when you are rocking a Beard I feel it's a sin to hide such a grand creation from the World. :)That begs the question, If I'm prepared to fly in the face of the Beard rule...why not the mask?:unsure: Where are you Yoda you wispy faced green little sage you?
 

Soul Sage

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Howdy Met. You're not alone on this front. I have been in quite a bit of isolation from the Org attending meetings on Zoom anonymously and have just got back from an extended Internet Sabbatical whereby I tried to cut off all outside influences to try and get my head into the scriptures for answers.

As you said, I could read my rights and not wear it but by nature I don't like to make other Brothers feel awkward or uncomfortable if I can possibly avoid it. I don't know if this counts as fear of man or more a desire not to hurt any one's feelings. :unsure:

The last meeting I attended on Zoom was a real eye opener. Before in person meetings resumed the pre Zoom convos were very scripted....kind of like those cringey Circuit Assembly demonstrations where everything is over acted and somewhat "Pleasantville".

But now the Brothers are chatting candidly and we still have almost half of the Cong still not attending in person.

Listening to the older ones chat away on Zoom I had no idea how genuinely afraid they were of "Covid" and how much they genuinely believe everything the Media/Government is saying.

Here is a selection of the pre meeting Zoom comments as close as I can get them to verbatim

Elder John " I can't believe how many people around town are not wearing masks. Just because restrictions have lifted doesn't mean we should stop wearing them. "

Old Brother "Oh I know. I carry a mask everywhere I go. I always wear mine no matter what"

Elder John " I always wear mine too. "

Sister No 1 " Well, I tried to get my 4th Jab today but they are prioritizing for those over 67....I'm only 65.....Darn!! "

Sister No 2 " Well my 11 year old granddaughter has just got Covid but she's not that sick"

Sister No 1 "Is she Vaccinated?"

Sister No 2 " Oh yes the whole family is vaccinated. That's why she didn't get so sick"

Elder John "Yes the vaccines don't stop you getting the Virus but they stop you from ending up dead"

Older Brother "Yes. I've just had my Fourth Dose. I don't want to end up dead either".

Sitting listening to that I felt sad and angry at the same time. I felt so sorry for the fear they were experiencing but angry at elements in the World and our "Mcfat" (thanks for that one Dog ) Org that have helped to embellish it.


What gets me with the Cult of the Trance Covidians is that they are more than entitled to state why we should wear masks but if we were to quote our position to them we are spreading "misinformation". We have the Freedom to agree with their contrived narrative and nothing more.

Like you, I am feeling discouraged at the thought of attending. The hybrid Covidian people there are now so far away from my general Worldview and Scriptural outlook that I don't feel that cherished kindred feeling I enjoyed as a young bloke in the 1990's. Part of that was my own self delusion but also I do believe there was a much freer form of communication in the Org back then.

The other thing is that 95% of the Community aren't wearing them and were glad to see the end of them. So why are JWs of all people the most Mask fanatical group in the City? I guess they are thinking that they are going the extra mile for love of neighbour but all the Scientific research I have seen says that is Bollicks.

Besides which, when you are rocking a Beard I feel it's a sin to hide such a grand creation from the World. :)That begs the question, If I'm prepared to fly in the face of the Beard rule...why not the mask?:unsure: Where are you Yoda you wispy faced green little sage you?

If they really made comments like that I guess my prayers to wake those brothers and sisters up aren't working. How sad and depressing. If that is the attitude with them, that's going to divide the congregation. Believing lies that vaccination and masks actually helps is just Satans big pharma propaganda influencing them, not Jehovah. And the governing body aren't the only ones who can access "the channel". If we are mature and well studied Christians, we too can access Jehovah's channel through diligent prayer, even if we aren't anointed.
 

4JahandChrist

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If they really made comments like that I guess my prayers to wake those brothers and sisters up aren't working. How sad and depressing. If that is the attitude with them, that's going to divide the congregation. Believing lies that vaccination and masks actually helps is just Satans big pharma propaganda influencing them, not Jehovah. And the governing body aren't the only ones who can access "the channel". If we are mature and well studied Christians, we too can access Jehovah's channel through diligent prayer, even if we aren't anointed.
Howdy SS. Yep they definitely spoke in that manner and it absolutely floored me. In my position, I moved into the Territory during Covid and I don't know any of the Brothers there so I had been somewhat insulated from the JW on the ground Covid thinking.

I found myself praying out loud to Jehovah during the Zoom and respectfully asking "what on Earth is going on?"

From the get go of Covid the Brothers here (down under) have been the same. I really thought that with all their knowledge of the Beast system that there would be a healthy skepticism of the Agenda but it is virtually non existent.

Like Met said in her opening post, it causes quite a bit of inner conflict in trying to negotiate a come back to physical meetings. Where is the line between condoning something unethical and acquiescing out of love and respect for other people's feelings?

I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet and go along and feel the waters. I know many people on this forum live in red parts of America that have a much more flexible view of the restrictions.

Down Under it's a Zombie apocalypse. 90% of people are as ignorant as they are arrogant. They sit on their virtual social media thrones and spout off the official Government edicts as if they are Roman Emperors in front of a packed coliseum.

As discouraging as the attitude of the mask wearing Brothers is, at least they still preach an end to all this madness. The Secular World that claimed to be so free thinking and tolerant is nothing but a toxic, small minded, voracious Cult dragging everyone into a Dystopian hell.

"May your Kingdom come" has always been in my heart but it has flown to new heights in the last two years. The Demonic elite that were once hiding in the shadows have walked out of their secret room and closed the door behind them.

For those with spiritual eyes their Agenda is smacking us in the face. Unfortunately many of our Brethren don't share our insights.

Keep praying SS. There must be many inside that are suffering under silence. Your prayers for them will surely be heard by Jehovah. (y)

(Although we may be fast approaching a time where the words of Jeremiah 11:14 will take on a whole new meaning. Especially if our Brothers continue to take the knee to the Lie.

Jer 11:14 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them; for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me because of their trouble. )
 

BagdadBill

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Many of you were baptized into the death of Jesus Christ (and in association with...) but soon many of you will receive a mask and will be baptized into mRNA. Yeah, I didn't read that scripture either. Good one Soul Sage. I am a Jehovah's Witness not a witness of Covid or the WEF. This is all part of the delusion. The operation of error as R King mentions from scripture. The Maskovites and Covidians are trying to assert their authority over the rest of mankind and they are thoroughly deceived by the human wicked forces pushing this.

It is enough to cause frustration and anger and I have remind myself that, like a union job, the angels are given the privilege of executing God's wrath alongside Jesus. I don't mean to impute any wrong motive but I can't help imagining that most of them will enjoy righteous pleasure and joy when that time come. I am frequently reminded (in my head) of the latter part of Matthew 5:22 and I need to try much harder at obedience because my nature is to call things as I see them.
Yea though I walk through the valley of the ignorant I shall feel no dread because the LORD leadeth me to common sense.
 

BagdadBill

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And the governing body aren't the only ones who can access "the channel". If we are mature and well studied Christians, we too can access Jehovah's channel through diligent prayer, even if we aren't anointed.

In the time of Israel, there were imposters pretending to perform holy service to God. This was God's channel and servant. Likewise, nobody in our time is protected from that any more than Israel was. Free moral agents. I had considered some of the places on the Internet where I landed for a time, interacting and exchanging information with people of varying reasons for being there. Some truly apostate and others just trying to find their way. Some maybe figuring it out along the way. I said to a brother back in 1986, that if there were any falsehood in the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses, that I would find it and be on my way. As we know, the basic teachings are true and can only be found amongst our people. The understanding of prophecy however, has gone down the wayward path. Maybe this is Jehovah's channel. That is to say, opening our eyes and praying, then reasoning and not shrinking back when we see truth. God directed me to the Watchtower when I asked for knowledge. I have no doubt of this. Maybe the rest is up to us to figure out. Watchman has said numerous times as a warning, that most of the congregations are followers of men, instead of God and Jesus. I think he's right that maybe that is part of the sifting. Who do we follow?
 

BagdadBill

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Howdy SS. Yep they definitely spoke in that manner and it absolutely floored me. In my position, I moved into the Territory during Covid and I don't know any of the Brothers there so I had been somewhat insulated from the JW on the ground Covid thinking.
Now some of your comments make more sense. I didn't realize you were down there. I've kept up with the goings on down there your continent is miles ahead of the rest of us in authoritarian control. Whatever is coming to the rest of us can be seen down there first, for the most part. The leaders down there sure seemed to be taking the lead in abusing the people. I recall the cop spraying an elderly woman in the face with pepper spray or whatever it was, even after she had fallen on the ground and was no threat. I felt a bit of rage at that one.
I had thought that Canada would be the first to promote burning churches and for a minute it looked that way. Now in USA because of abortion junkies, I feel it will start here first. Kingdom Halls may not be the safest place to be. Worldly people these days don't grasp a distinction regarding JWs any longer. Younger people won't really grasp that we stay out of politics.
 

TruthLover

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I feel the same about knowing where to draw the line, between speaking the truth in my heart and not stumbling someone. This scripture comes to mind: "All things are lawful, but not all things are advantageous. All things are lawful, but not all things build up. Let each one keep seeking, not his own advantage, but that of the other person"(1 Co 10,23,24). We want to respect others and not upset them, but at the same time showing love is not withholding truth not matter how hard it may be. The problem is knowing you may cause a confrontation and that you can't reason with most, it's disheartening and does make you feel trapped in a sense.
Half are still on zoom in my congregation. I've not gone in yet as I won't wear a mask, and I don't feel I can cope being there in person.
I don't think we'll have to worry about it for much longer based on coming events.
 

4JahandChrist

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I feel the same about knowing where to draw the line, between speaking the truth in my heart and not stumbling someone. This scripture comes to mind: "All things are lawful, but not all things are advantageous. All things are lawful, but not all things build up. Let each one keep seeking, not his own advantage, but that of the other person"(1 Co 10,23,24). We want to respect others and not upset them, but at the same time showing love is not withholding truth not matter how hard it may be. The problem is knowing you may cause a confrontation and that you can't reason with most, it's disheartening and does make you feel trapped in a sense.
Half are still on zoom in my congregation. I've not gone in yet as I won't wear a mask, and I don't feel I can cope being there in person.
I don't think we'll have to worry about it for much longer based on coming events.
You just articulated exactly how I feel. Thanks for that TL. (y)
 

barry

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I've been to most meetings in person. It's not easy to wear a mask but since we moved during the pandemic we also don't know anyone at the hall. For my son it's important to be able to meet some young ones to have some good association.
During the last public talk the brother was also mentioning wearing masks as a sign of trusting in Jehovah.
In our province there is no more mask mandate and he asked a question during the talk, something like: "what will we do when we are in a crowd (like a mall or so) where nobody is wearing a mask and they're not following the 6ft distance guidelines, will we just go along and take off our mask or will we keep ours on and respect the guidelines we receive from the slave?"
So basically he was kind of saying that the guideline to wear masks is not limited to the KH only :oops:
 

4JahandChrist

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Now some of your comments make more sense. I didn't realize you were down there. I've kept up with the goings on down there your continent is miles ahead of the rest of us in authoritarian control. Whatever is coming to the rest of us can be seen down there first, for the most part. The leaders down there sure seemed to be taking the lead in abusing the people. I recall the cop spraying an elderly woman in the face with pepper spray or whatever it was, even after she had fallen on the ground and was no threat. I felt a bit of rage at that one.
I had thought that Canada would be the first to promote burning churches and for a minute it looked that way. Now in USA because of abortion junkies, I feel it will start here first. Kingdom Halls may not be the safest place to be. Worldly people these days don't grasp a distinction regarding JWs any longer. Younger people won't really grasp that we stay out of politics.
I don't know if you saw the young pregnant woman being cuffed and arrested for a Facebook Post but that happened in my State and was actually celebrated by the public.

America is the last bulwark against anything anti Christian. I've never been there but it appears that in some areas like the Bible Belt they still have some kind of Christian based principles. In 2022 that seems to be unique to the States....certainly doesn't seem to exist in Europe or the British Commonwealth.
 

4JahandChrist

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In our province there is no more mask mandate and he asked a question during the talk, something like: "what will we do when we are in a crowd (like a mall or so) where nobody is wearing a mask and they're not following the 6ft distance guidelines, will we just go along and take off our mask or will we keep ours on and respect the guidelines we receive from the slave?"
So basically he was kind of saying that the guideline to wear masks is not limited to the KH only :oops:
That is incredible Barry. I assume you are in Canada? (Province)

This is what has struck me with the Org's Covid Policies. It's not the recommendations themselves although I do believe they are problematic....it's attaching Jehovah's name to them and presuming to equate their words with being his words.

Everyone makes mistakes and errors of Judgement. But when Brothers consistently go beyond the things written and start sounding like the Catholic Pope then we are seeing elements of Apostasy, Idolatry, Treason and even Blasphemy.

I don't mean that to sound overly harsh. But we must jealousy guard the sanctity of scripture and adding just a single verse to it is an affront to them all. This is what the original Bible Student movement was founded on. It's our heritage and roots and we can't let people run rough shod over the top of 1 Cor 4:6.

1Co 4:6 Now these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes; that in us ye might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; that no one of you be puffed up for the one against the other.
 

barry

Member
That is incredible Barry. I assume you are in Canada? (Province)

This is what has struck me with the Org's Covid Policies. It's not the recommendations themselves although I do believe they are problematic....it's attaching Jehovah's name to them and presuming to equate their words with being his words.

Everyone makes mistakes and errors of Judgement. But when Brothers consistently go beyond the things written and start sounding like the Catholic Pope then we are seeing elements of Apostasy, Idolatry, Treason and even Blasphemy.

I don't mean that to sound overly harsh. But we must jealousy guard the sanctity of scripture and adding just a single verse to it is an affront to them all. This is what the original Bible Student movement was founded on. It's our heritage and roots and we can't let people run rough shod over the top of 1 Cor 4:6.

1Co 4:6 Now these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes; that in us ye might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; that no one of you be puffed up for the one against the other.

Yes, I'm in BC.

It's indeed considering that the recommendations are coming directly from Jehovah that is the problem. And attaching almost the same value at these recommendations as the Scriptures.
 

BagdadBill

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I don't know if you saw the young pregnant woman being cuffed and arrested for a Facebook Post but that happened in my State and was actually celebrated by the public.

Saw that and also the older cop who wrestles a young woman down to the ground for not wearing a mask. I've been following a few people down there. Yemini. The Cossack and a bunch of others who posted videos from their phones when they could. Can't forget the man they slammed head first into the ground at a mall or somewhere.
 

MuleJule

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After experiencing similar attitudes and conversations, I have to say how refreshing it is to come here and know you all feel the way I do. Part of me wants to go to the meetings, but I think it's nostalgia, longing for what it used to be. I am realizing that is gone now. There has been a shift, a divide, and it's not going back. It's exhausting to play along. I refuse.

I mentioned this in another thread but we were invited to a gathering hosted by our field service group overseer to feed the speaker Sunday immediately after meeting. If everyone came it would be 20-25 people. He insisted that we would not have to wear masks, and that nobody was going to be wearing them. But like others here have said, there are many who proudly wear them everywhere and would not consider going in public maskless. I even know one sister who brags to me that she wears two masks everywhere. How confusing.

There are some, usually the outspoken "spiritual" ones who turn every conversation into endorsements for masks and jabs, proudly asserting them as a symbol of obedience and humility. These ones hold the floor on zoom service and pre/post meeting conversations. But like I said, it's the outspoken ones, who tend to dominate the conversations so I wonder how many are actually brainwashed by all this nonsense. They certainly couldn't speak their mind without being branded as heretics or rebellious.

I've been trying to pay attention to what's happening on zoom. For instance, last night I signed in at 6:59. There were 30 participants, 2 with camera on. During the opening song the participants jumped to 52 (last minute entrance). Then as soon as they said amen, within 5-10 seconds it went back down to 30 participants. I left after about 15 seconds, so I don't know how many remain usually. Maybe I'll try to stick it out next time and see. But my point is there are quite a number who are only there for the meeting attendance and have no interest in hanging around.

We have our meeting schedule emailed to us every week, detailing who has each part, who has attendant duty, mics, sound etc. I have noticed a lot of subs every week. My husband who is not very active (very low hour and never does service or comments) is being asked to do mics or attendant at almost every meeting. I think because in person attendance is so low?

Also our local needs was a video by bro Lett on not stumbling others. I had it muted, because I can't handle him most of the time, but I might check it out to see what it was about.

I came across this scripture this morning and I thought it was really interesting:

Isa. 24:5-6: "The land has been polluted by its inhabitants, For they have bypassed the laws, Changed the regulation, And broken the lasting covenant. That is why the curse devours the land, And those inhabiting it are held guilty. That is why the inhabitants of the land have dwindled, And very few men are left."

:oops:
 

Nomex

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As many of you know in my opinion the only thing worse than the masks, is the vaccine. I was thinking about this with regards to the supposed guidance "from the slave." It's another complete lie. When they repeat almost word for word everything coming from the government, and what's more important they say they are going along with it because of Romans 13, that is not "guidance form the Slave." That is a complete lie. And a bold faced one at that. At what point are the brothers going to reject the "guidance" from Satan's world. After all the "whole world lies in the power of the wicked one."

I'm just wondering when Satan stopped lying? If Eve had assumed Satan was a liar, would she have sinned?

And to be honest I am not interested in a bunch of out of touch old men who have no idea how the real world works telling me my business. I am an expert in the field PPE, since there use is part of how I have made a living for the last nearly quarter of a century. I have spent hours researching and reading about respirators. And I have spent many more hours wearing a respirator. Look up the definition of "respirator". It is literally define as a "mask that covers your mouth and nose and filters..."

So by definition, these masks are respirators, and they are regulated by OSHA (and other government agencies in other countries) and have been for 40 plus years. This disqualifies the masks in two ways. If it is a respirator it is illegal to require anyone to wear a mask, without the person passing a medical evaluation, because they are NOT respirators there are no regulations because no one wears a hanky, since the 19th century to "filter" anything. BTW, a "surgical mask is not a respirator and is NOT USED as a RESPIRATOR!

I own and use three different respirators. A half mask respirator, a full face respirator, and a PAPR. (A PAPR is an "powered air purifying respirator" and it is literally used for say an Ebola outbreak, with appropriate filters.) The one thing the first two have in common besides industrial filters and N95 filters, is they are made out of silicone, and they have a check value to exhale. Why is that important? Because the moisture in your breath that you exhale is full of sickness causing bacteria. (They say the human mouth...well I think we all know...there is only one part of the body that is less sanitary.) Bacteria does not culture and grow on silicone, and it's also easy to clean, not to mention the half mask's are disposable anyway.

Now let's move on to the N95. Does anyone know what the "95" in "n95" means? It means it only filters 95% of the virus it is exposed to. So a respirator, that is used by medical professionals when they have to be exposed to a virus, are using an approved respirator that only filters 95% of the virus they are exposed to. How much does that hanky you wrapped around your face filter? How much does the surgical mask filter? Well I have news for all the pro-maskers. There is no reason to rate those things because if you are going to use PPE, and let's say, your equipment is only good for protection lets say from 5% of virus exposure would you wear it? Would you buy that PPE? Yeah, no you wouldn't!

Let's take this down the line to the next lie. According to the GB 26,000 brothers have died of Covid. (Very conspicuous they stopped counting BTW!) 26,000 equals one third of one percent of 8.5 million Witnesses! So even at the worst possible numbers this horrible pandemic didn't even get to 1%. Then when you factor in that those people who died had 2.6 co-morbidties, and that was 80% of those people, then you have reduced this scaremonger "worse thing to happen since the Spanish Flu", to the reality of it's insignificance by 80%,. then the whole thing is just laughable.

Oh but I am "listening to strangers". I have news for the GB, you are the strangers. The Bible you use to claim you are the Faithful and Discreet slave", is the same Bible that calls the governments liars! Of did you miss that part that Satan, is "the father of the lie", and the whole world lies in the power of the wicked one(Satan)!

Where does it end WT? When do you decide that the "guidance" from Satan's governments do not come from Jehovah? At what point do you say, "yeah the Father of the lie, who controls the governments, is lying?" What does it take for you to believe what Jehovah wrote in his inspired word?

No wonder you say we may get unreasonable and I forget how they put it instruction.....but at what point does the "faithful slave" decide that the governments Satan controls, the father of the lie, are lying? The Father of the lie, who controls the whole world, we just go along with. So the next time they roll out the lies, you just go along, and the time after that, and the time after that.

When do you say wait a minute, the "misinformation" that Satan's government claims to be lies, are the actual lies!!!???? When do you say, "the father of the lie, is lying?" WHEN!!!!

The reason we "may get instruction that doesn't make sense" is because it comes from Satan! What they did the last 2 years proves it!

I am so done!

The cloth mask is a petrie dish of sickness causing ailments...PERIOD!
 

Jah-son

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I hate the masks but I'm trying to support my wife and friends by attending physically. Eventually they will learn that I'm injection free and hopefully see the contrast between a healthy person and ones who've been poisoned. Most of them have had "Covid" and are likely injected.
If masks weren't still mandated here, I wouldn't be wearing one, even at meetings. I hate seeing the children in them especially. It seems so cruel and ritualistic... symbolic of the censorship that has come about with all this hysteria.
After suffocating through the first couple of meetings, I decided to modify my mask. I'm using one of the store bought surgical style masks with the plastic surface and several layers of tissue. I proceeded to cut out the layers of tissue so all that is left is the plastic outer part. I snipped several inconspicuous holes in it so its more breathable. Its still annoying but bearable.
Trying to give comments or read is ridiculous. As much as I like seeing everyone again I just don't know if the physical meetings are going to work.
I was talking to a brother back in my home state this morning and he said that his congregation may go back to zoom exclusively due to low attendance and increased cases.
 
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