Maximum level of hypocrisy-Jeffrey Winder: Our Modesty Benefits Others (Matt. 22:39)

Jeremiah17:5

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So just as big pharma has been granted immunity (by congress) for any injury or death resulting from their poisons, the WT likewise claims immunity in the small print that the rank and file should’ve been aware of.
Perhaps now ,with everything backfiring on them, the WT will take the same position that they did about the whole 1975 fiasco where they accused the rank and file of “jumping to conclusions” about Armageddon happening then despite the fact that for many years prior WT cultivated, intimated and ingrained that date into everyone’s minds.
Don’t buy that home, don’t enroll in higher education, put off that medical procedure for soon you’ll be perfect,simplify,simplify simplify your life.
They easily can …because they never officially told anyone to get it…they said it was our choice. Even though all the videos heavily influenced it and the rest of the rank and file did as well….because “if it’s good enough for the GB…it’s good enough for me”. And even though Elders and Pioneers needed to do it …it was only to attend elder school or pioneer school. They still could remain an Elder or Pioneer…even though they would be heavily soft shunned.
 

Carl

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They easily can …because they never officially told anyone to get it…they said it was our choice. Even though all the videos heavily influenced it and the rest of the rank and file did as well….because “if it’s good enough for the GB…it’s good enough for me”. And even though Elders and Pioneers needed to do it …it was only to attend elder school or pioneer school. They still could remain an Elder or Pioneer…even though they would be heavily soft shunned.
The video I linked to would be pretty damning evidence in a trial. When you can see all the GB videos about COVID back to back to back... it's obvious they were pressuring everyone to take the vaccine in order to be considered a good JW.
 

Carl

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It was after the GB came out and told us “ there is no blood in the vaccine “ I asked our COBE how come they didn’t tell the bros about the aborted cell lines like what the Catholics are banging on about? I had this incredulous angry response asking me where I dug up this info from.
Next morning he called and apologised as he’d researched the topic. I was amazed he did that but it didn’t stop him getting the next round of shots.
It's one thing to take the vaccine not knowing babies were killed in order to create it, but it's a whole different story to know and still take it.
 

Ms_ladyblue

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It's one thing to take the vaccine not knowing babies were killed in order to create it, but it's a whole different story to know and still take it.
Not to mention that the jab alters your god made genes or DNA. If we’re not to take drugs that alter your mind, why is it ok to take medications or vaccines that alter your physical body chemistry?

Am I missing something here?
 
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Carl

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Not to mention that the jab alters your god made genes or DNA. If we’re not to take drugs that alter your mind, why is it ok to take medications or vaccines to alter your physical body chemistry?

Am I missing something here?
That too. There's no excuse for someone choosing to remain ignorant, despite the mounds of evidence to the contrary. The information was right there, but people choose to close their eyes and plug their ears. For those who learned these facts after they took the vax... then that's different.
 

kenmuldoon55

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They easily can …because they never officially told anyone to get it…they said it was our choice. Even though all the videos heavily influenced it and the rest of the rank and file did as well….because “if it’s good enough for the GB…it’s good enough for me”. And even though Elders and Pioneers needed to do it …it was only to attend elder school or pioneer school. They still could remain an Elder or Pioneer…even though they would be heavily soft shunned.
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“They easily can …because they never officially told anyone to get it…they said it was our choice”.
That may be but how many rank and file who protested loudly against the vaccine got put on the society’s $h\t list for speaking out?

It was so out of line for the .org leaders to even suggest the vax was Jehovahs provision.
The weak minded went right along and suffered on account of WT Huberis.
 

Medi-tator

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Lets all hope the Ramapo project stays on schedule. When its completed they can have talks and videos showing how Jehovahs holy spirit is with the organization!
Yeah they can highlight how one of their key vendors suddenly was unable to provide the crane to move the Central A/C unit onto the roof, but with some serious prayers by the oversight team, they were able to secure a crane from another vendor who came in at a lower price. Proof positive of Jehovah's blessing and overall approval of the entire project. Film at eleven!
 

SusanB

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We can say that the brothers and sisters who took the vaccine because of the GB updates are weak minded but they honestly believe or did believe that they (the GB members) were directed by Jehovah’s holy spirit. Most brothers and sisters did accept the vaccine thinking it was the course of divine wisdom. In the before and after Zoom meetings there were a lot of “encouragement” to get vaccinated and it was quite gleeful that they thought they were receiving life saving instructions from Jehovah. I still find it shocking and sad.
 

SusanB

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Romans 9:2-3, 16-21: “For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge. For because of not knowing the righteousness of God but seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God. ….. Nevertheless, they did not all obey the good news. For Isaiah says: “Jehovah, who has put faith in the thing heard from us?” So faith follows the thing heard. In turn, what is heard is through the word about Christ. But I ask, They did not fail to hear, did they? Why, in fact, “into all the earth their sound went out, and to the ends of the inhabited earth their message.” But I ask, Israel did not fail to know, did they? First Moses says: “I will incite you to jealousy through that which is not a nation; I will incite you to violent anger through a foolish nation.” But Isaiah becomes very bold and says: “I was found by those who were not seeking me; I became known to those who were not asking for me.” But he says regarding Israel: “All day long I have spread out my hands toward a disobedient and obstinate people.”
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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We can say that the brothers and sisters who took the vaccine because of the GB updates are weak minded but they honestly believe or did believe that they (the GB members) were directed by Jehovah’s holy spirit. Most brothers and sisters did accept the vaccine thinking it was the course of divine wisdom. In the before and after Zoom meetings there were a lot of “encouragement” to get vaccinated and it was quite gleeful that they thought they were receiving life saving instructions from Jehovah. I still find it shocking and sad.
The flu presented a lot of emotive issues for everyone and caused a lot of fear, especially for children. Personally my family’s example was that of my daughter coming down with a heavy dose of covid and our grandson crying under his bed thinking his mother was going to die - she wouldn’t even let him in her room. If people were not afraid of death, the blood issue would not be a problem either, would it - thus it is rather the end result, than the cause that is feared - and that is common to all with or without faith. It is rather the deceit of the watchtower knowing the facts but choosing to play the hype that is despicable. To manipulate fear for money, to lie, extort such fear for gain - there is the shame. Watchtower played on the faith of others, drawing in the care, love and protection of the creator to spin their deal with the government for money. It is a sad reflection on the brothers to be sure, but what is one to expect from those who are blind and deaf? There was a video on YouTube today about a bethelite slave who worked in the medical and legal departments at headquarters - the cover-ups are horrendous and their unqualified meddling in people’s health needs is very worrisome. They are way beyond their remit - deep into the pit of blood guilt.
 

robins

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The flu presented a lot of emotive issues for everyone and caused a lot of fear, especially for children. Personally my family’s example was that of my daughter coming down with a heavy dose of covid and our grandson crying under his bed thinking his mother was going to die - she wouldn’t even let him in her room. If people were not afraid of death, the blood issue would not be a problem either, would it - thus it is rather the end result, than the cause that is feared - and that is common to all with or without faith. It is rather the deceit of the watchtower knowing the facts but choosing to play the hype that is despicable. To manipulate fear for money, to lie, extort such fear for gain - there is the shame. Watchtower played on the faith of others, drawing in the care, love and protection of the creator to spin their deal with the government for money. It is a sad reflection on the brothers to be sure, but what is one to expect from those who are blind and deaf? There was a video on YouTube today about a bethelite slave who worked in the medical and legal departments at headquarters - the cover-ups are horrendous and their unqualified meddling in people’s health needs is very worrisome. They are way beyond their remit - deep into the pit of blood guilt.
can you share or hint at the link?
 

CyndiaS

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The flu presented a lot of emotive issues for everyone and caused a lot of fear, especially for children. Personally my family’s example was that of my daughter coming down with a heavy dose of covid and our grandson crying under his bed thinking his mother was going to die - she wouldn’t even let him in her room. If people were not afraid of death, the blood issue would not be a problem either, would it - thus it is rather the end result, than the cause that is feared - and that is common to all with or without faith. It is rather the deceit of the watchtower knowing the facts but choosing to play the hype that is despicable. To manipulate fear for money, to lie, extort such fear for gain - there is the shame. Watchtower played on the faith of others, drawing in the care, love and protection of the creator to spin their deal with the government for money. It is a sad reflection on the brothers to be sure, but what is one to expect from those who are blind and deaf? There was an video on YouTube today about a bethelite slave who worked in the medical and legal departments at headquarters - the cover-ups are horrendous and their unqualified meddling in people’s health needs is very worrisome. They are way beyond their remit - deep into the pit of blood guilt.
Yes, link please if you have it? 🙏
 

Nomex

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the WT will take the same position that they did about the whole 1975 fiasco where they accused the rank and file of “jumping to conclusions” about Armageddon happening then despite the fact that for many years prior WT cultivated, intimated and ingrained that date into everyone’s minds.
They are already doing this. I saw I think it was on ExJW reddit, this very thing, that they were talking to their elders about the GB "forcing" people to get the vaccine, and hop0w the Elder denied it saying it was a personal choice. Like Ron White says, "you can't fix stupid."
Here's a great video compilation showing the hypocrisy and obvious gaslighting.
I haven't watched the whole video yet, but I watched this part where he's talking about the second example of "modesty" in both clips, and it occurs to me, they once again are confessing who and what they really are, since what they did is the opposite of modesty, because when you say something like, "would Jehovah allow us to take a vaccine that wasn't safe?" they are confessing their arrogance. Do as we say not as we do, and of course they will blame the R&F for not listening to whatever contradictory "advice" they got form the GB because they "chose poorly" to quote the "Crusader Knight" from "Indianan Jones and the Search for the Holy Grail." No it's your fault if you chose wrong.


It really is remarkable once again, the great arrogance they must have. But think about it, they would have to since they have appointed themselves as the "Faithful Slave." I think I have said this here before, let's say for the sake of argument that Jesus really did come in 1919 and appoint those brothers in 1919 as the "faithful slave", since not a single brother on the GB now was alive in 1919, and by like a few decades, so how exactly is this new over lapped generation of "faithful slave" has been appointed? Oh I know, they appointed themselves, and really you cannot even deny this at this point. The more I wake up to this the madder it makes me.


Let me say this also, all the ExJW Reddit, and YouTuber stuff I am sure gets to them, but I am certain this site really bothers them. A group of "apostates" who still serve Jehovah, yet call them out for their sins and false prophecies! This has GOT TO really get in their craw and drive them mad! I hope so, and I hope it keeps some of them awake at night.
 

Jeremiah17:5

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Let me say this also, all the ExJW Reddit, and YouTuber stuff I am sure gets to them, but I am certain this site really bothers them. A group of "apostates" who still serve Jehovah, yet call them out for their sins and false prophecies! This has GOT TO really get in their craw and drive them mad! I hope so, and I hope it keeps some of them awake at night.
I will say... I like this site way better than ExJw... I feel so many of the commenters in there have completely lost all their faith. To the point of questioning the Bible and turning Athiest and Agnostic. My goal is only to strengthen my faith In God... and making sure I'm giving Christ the honor and credit he deserves... and not making man my leader and an Idol.

Matthew 24:4,5 "In answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads you,+ 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many"

One of the first things Jesus told us to watch out for... Not to be Misled. And by who? Those saying they are the Christ... Or they are "anointed"
These self appointed ...anointed ones... who are "God's Channel" and the "voice of Jesus'. These are mighty claims that Must be questioned and we have the duty and right to "make sure of all things"
 
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