Modern sacrifices

[Ireneo]

I've been thinking for a long time an idea
If we travel to the past and go to apostate Israel in the time of Jeremiah we would see sacrifices to Molek
People made their children pass through the fire
Some were burned and died
Others were burned with a ritual but they did not die
Adults also caused pain with fire or lacerations
Why did they do it?
Surely they thought that this would give them health and prosperity
That was what the priests said
How did Jehovah see it?

. Jeremiah 19:4 It is because they abandoned mec and made this place unrecognizable.d In it they are sacrificing to other gods, whom they and their forefathers and the kings of Judah had not known, and they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent ones.e 5 They built the high places of Baʹal in order to burn their sons in the fire as whole burnt offerings to Baʹal,f something that I had not commanded or spoken of and that had never even come into my heart.” '*g

But they surely thought they were advanced thinkers
What they did in their mind was right
That's what their leaders told them

If we were there we would see them as ignorant idolaters

But let's go back to our time

We have parents who vaccinate their children and who vaccinate themselves
They know there are risks and in fact they are scammed
But they keep doing it
They do it because the scientists say so (priests)
Vaccination will bring peace and health
Children should be vaccinated to save grandparents and for the common good
Of course they tell us it's science
But in the eyes of Jehovah ……. How is today's "science" different from that of ancient idolaters?
Perhaps when we look from the new world to this time we will think that the people were "ignorant idolaters"
Looks like a modern sacrificial ritual
Humanity has been brought back to the worship of Baal and Molek and has not realized it yet.

 

[SpicySpice]

Great points, brother. And it makes me wonder: do we remain among them? Is that sharing in their sins, when we turn a blind eye to their activities? (whether intentional or not, whether they were coerced or not they have still done it) Either way, you make a great point.

 

[SusanB]

Great points, brother. And it makes me wonder: do we remain among them? Is that sharing in their sins, when we turn a blind eye to their activities? (whether intentional or not, whether they were coerced or not they have still done it) Either way, you make a great point.

Hi Brother Ireneo and Sister SpicySpice, Thank you for this thread. I am going to go ”out on a limb” and this post will probably be criticized and discussed as it should be. So, let me start with, I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer by a long shot and I do not have any special spiritual insight and of sinners, I am the foremost. However, what is speaking to my heart is the fact that I am 99.9% confident that the spike protein is a bio-weapon and so the vaccine is the delivery system for the bio-weapon. In symbolic terms, the spike protein is the bullet and the vaccine is the gun. So, as you all know from my previous posts, I am ”thinking” that the vaccine/bio-weapon is equal to the Roman armies when they initially surrounded Jerusalem and undermined the wall. Some damage was done and who knows if some people may have been killed or injured to a small degree with that event. However, the Roman Army inexplicably left, leaving time for the residents of “JUDEA” to flee. And then it was another 4 years before the Roman Army returned and completely destroyed Jerusalem and killed nearly all of the Jews there. And, I believe it was at the festival of Passover too so that there were a lot of Jewish worshippers there when it happened.

Now that they are giving up on pushing the vaccine, it appears to me that the “disgusting thing” is being removed temporarily but it will come back as did the Roman Army and the coming devastation will be catastrophic. I don’t want to offend anyone, but this is what it appears to be to me. Most of you here have come to be “dear” and loved friends and I love reading your commentaries and so I wanted to share these thoughts with you.

Check out this Watchtower Article on the history of the 2 sieges of Jerusalem,

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1974523?q=destruction+of+Jerusalem+when+passover&p=doc

 

[SusanB]

I should add that ”fleeing” from Jerusalem today must be symbolic and I can only guess it means removing yourself from the control of the GB, not a literal leaving a physical place or even a congregation.

 

[MickHewitt]

I should add that ”fleeing” from Jerusalem today must be symbolic and I can only guess it means removing yourself from the control of the GB, not a literal leaving a physical place or even a congregation.

Yes it's a spiritural application: Wonder what are the symbolic mountains that we are to flee to?

 

[SusanB]

Yes it's a spiritural application: Wonder what are the symbolic mountains that we are to flee to?

Good question. Now you have me wondering too.

 

[Ireneo]

Good question. Now you have me wondering too.

Your application is very good.
Over the mountains"
It is interesting that tradition says that an angel appeared and told them that it was the city of Pela
The apostolic fathers mention it and it seems credible
So there is probably divine revelation if we follow the pattern
When Juan wants to write, the angel tells him to seal what he heard.
Then the 2 witnesses appear
That is, that group will preach a message directly from God
I think it is related to the prophecy that the young and old will have dreams (divine revelation)
The Christians who fled from Jerusalem in a sense fulfilled the prophecy of the remnant who would be saved
I recently found something in Isaiah that caught my attention
It is initially applied to Assyria but obviously Jesus quotes it in Matthew 24


In that day the root of Jesʹse+ will stand up as a signal* for the peoples.+
To him the nations will turn for guidance,*+
And his resting-place will become glorious.
11 In that day Jehovah will again offer his hand, a second time, to reclaim the remnant of his people who are left from As syrʹi a,+ from Egypt,+ from Pathʹros,+ from Cush,+ from Eʹlam,+ from Shiʹnar,* from Haʹmath, and from the islands of the sea.+ 12 He will raise up a signal* for the nations and gather the dispersed ones of Israel,+ and he will gather together the scattered ones of Judah from the four corners of the earth.+

Isaiah 11 is a messianic chapter

When Jesus speaks of the sign of the son of man, he is quoting Isaiah
There is talk of the recollection of the rest
To me the "mountains" represent the place of safety of the restoration of true worship
Namely
We will have to decide between staying in the organization or going out to worship purified by Jesus Christ and witnessed by the 2 witnesses
They will speak directly with Christ as the transfiguration shows.
In apocalypse the people are asked to flee from Babylon
where to ?
To the restored and cleansed by Jesus Christ himself

Throughout the bible there is talk of the rest that returns and will be loyal forever
That rest always comes from somewhere
It comes out of Babylon from Assyria from Jerusalem, it is gathered from all the nations ……..
Always the same idea repeated over and over again
Although it was fulfilled in the first century, that fulfillment was partial.
The final fulfillment of that prophecy is missing
Everything points to the fulfillment of the final refinement of the sons of Levi and their gathering for the final mission
For me it has to do with that

 

[SusanB]

Your application is very good.
Over the mountains"
It is interesting that tradition says that an angel appeared and told them that it was the city of Pela
The apostolic fathers mention it and it seems credible
So there is probably divine revelation if we follow the pattern
When Juan wants to write, the angel tells him to seal what he heard.
Then the 2 witnesses appear
That is, that group will preach a message directly from God
I think it is related to the prophecy that the young and old will have dreams (divine revelation)
The Christians who fled from Jerusalem in a sense fulfilled the prophecy of the remnant who would be saved
I recently found something in Isaiah that caught my attention
It is initially applied to Assyria but obviously Jesus quotes it in Matthew 24


In that day the root of Jesʹse+ will stand up as a signal* for the peoples.+
To him the nations will turn for guidance,*+
And his resting-place will become glorious.
11 In that day Jehovah will again offer his hand, a second time, to reclaim the remnant of his people who are left from As syrʹi a,+ from Egypt,+ from Pathʹros,+ from Cush,+ from Eʹlam,+ from Shiʹnar,* from Haʹmath, and from the islands of the sea.+ 12 He will raise up a signal* for the nations and gather the dispersed ones of Israel,+ and he will gather together the scattered ones of Judah from the four corners of the earth.+

Isaiah 11 is a messianic chapter

When Jesus speaks of the sign of the son of man, he is quoting Isaiah
There is talk of the recollection of the rest
To me the "mountains" represent the place of safety of the restoration of true worship
Namely
We will have to decide between staying in the organization or going out to worship purified by Jesus Christ and witnessed by the 2 witnesses
They will speak directly with Christ as the transfiguration shows.
In apocalypse the people are asked to flee from Babylon
where to ?
To the restored and cleansed by Jesus Christ himself

Throughout the bible there is talk of the rest that returns and will be loyal forever
That rest always comes from somewhere
It comes out of Babylon from Assyria from Jerusalem, it is gathered from all the nations ……..
Always the same idea repeated over and over again
Although it was fulfilled in the first century, that fulfillment was partial.
The final fulfillment of that prophecy is missing
Everything points to the fulfillment of the final refinement of the sons of Levi and their gathering for the final mission
For me it has to do with that

Great points and very encouraging. Thank you.

 

[SpicySpice]

Hi Brother Ireneo and Sister SpicySpice, Thank you for this thread. I am going to go ”out on a limb” and this post will probably be criticized and discussed as it should be. So, let me start with, I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer by a long shot and I do not have any special spiritual insight and of sinners, I am the foremost. However, what is speaking to my heart is the fact that I am 99.9% confident that the spike protein is a bio-weapon and so the vaccine is the delivery system for the bio-weapon. In symbolic terms, the spike protein is the bullet and the vaccine is the gun. So, as you all know from my previous posts, I am ”thinking” that the vaccine/bio-weapon is equal to the Roman armies when they initially surrounded Jerusalem and undermined the wall. Some damage was done and who knows if some people may have killed or injured to a small degree with that event. However, the Roman Army inexplicably left, leaving time for the residents of “JUDEA” to flee. And then it was another 4 years before the Roman Army returned and completely destroyed Jerusalem and killed nearly all of the Jews there. And, I believe it was at the festival of Passover too so that there were a lot of Jewish worshippers there when it happened.

Now that they are giving up on pushing the vaccine, it appears to me that the “disgusting thing” is being removed temporarily but it will come back as did the Roman Army and the coming devastation will be catastrophic. I don’t want to offend anyone, but this is what it appears to be to me. Most of you here have come to be “dear” and loved friends and I love reading your commentaries and so I wanted to share these thoughts with you.

Check out this Watchtower Article on the history of the 2 sieges of Jerusalem,

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1974523?q=destruction+of+Jerusalem+when+passover&p=doc

More great points. You have great insight and wisdom Sister. I tend to agree with you on this point especially, that it is indeed a bio weapon. How awful for Jehovah to have this posed as "His blessing" I wonder often times how this must make him feel.

 

[SpicySpice]

Your application is very good.
Over the mountains"
It is interesting that tradition says that an angel appeared and told them that it was the city of Pela
The apostolic fathers mention it and it seems credible
So there is probably divine revelation if we follow the pattern
When Juan wants to write, the angel tells him to seal what he heard.
Then the 2 witnesses appear
That is, that group will preach a message directly from God
I think it is related to the prophecy that the young and old will have dreams (divine revelation)
The Christians who fled from Jerusalem in a sense fulfilled the prophecy of the remnant who would be saved
I recently found something in Isaiah that caught my attention
It is initially applied to Assyria but obviously Jesus quotes it in Matthew 24


In that day the root of Jesʹse+ will stand up as a signal* for the peoples.+
To him the nations will turn for guidance,*+
And his resting-place will become glorious.
11 In that day Jehovah will again offer his hand, a second time, to reclaim the remnant of his people who are left from As syrʹi a,+ from Egypt,+ from Pathʹros,+ from Cush,+ from Eʹlam,+ from Shiʹnar,* from Haʹmath, and from the islands of the sea.+ 12 He will raise up a signal* for the nations and gather the dispersed ones of Israel,+ and he will gather together the scattered ones of Judah from the four corners of the earth.+

Isaiah 11 is a messianic chapter

When Jesus speaks of the sign of the son of man, he is quoting Isaiah
There is talk of the recollection of the rest
To me the "mountains" represent the place of safety of the restoration of true worship
Namely
We will have to decide between staying in the organization or going out to worship purified by Jesus Christ and witnessed by the 2 witnesses
They will speak directly with Christ as the transfiguration shows.
In apocalypse the people are asked to flee from Babylon
where to ?
To the restored and cleansed by Jesus Christ himself

Throughout the bible there is talk of the rest that returns and will be loyal forever
That rest always comes from somewhere
It comes out of Babylon from Assyria from Jerusalem, it is gathered from all the nations ……..
Always the same idea repeated over and over again
Although it was fulfilled in the first century, that fulfillment was partial.
The final fulfillment of that prophecy is missing
Everything points to the fulfillment of the final refinement of the sons of Levi and their gathering for the final mission
For me it has to do with that

More great points, dear brother. Given me a lot to think about.

 

[MickHewitt]

Yes it's a spiritural application: Wonder what are the symbolic mountains that we are to flee to?

Surely reference to Christ's annointed, representatives of Mt Zion: The ones who's skirt the Nations touch, Zec8:23?

 

[SusanB]

Surely reference to Christ's annointed, representatives of Mt Zion:

Right. Perhaps the sealed anointed ones specifically.

 

[Dorothea]

I've been thinking for a long time an idea
If we travel to the past and go to apostate Israel in the time of Jeremiah we would see sacrifices to Molek
People made their children pass through the fire
Some were burned and died
Others were burned with a ritual but they did not die
Adults also caused pain with fire or lacerations
Why did they do it?
Surely they thought that this would give them health and prosperity
That was what the priests said
How did Jehovah see it?

. Jeremiah 19:4 It is because they abandoned mec and made this place unrecognizable.d In it they are sacrificing to other gods, whom they and their forefathers and the kings of Judah had not known, and they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent ones.e 5 They built the high places of Baʹal in order to burn their sons in the fire as whole burnt offerings to Baʹal,f something that I had not commanded or spoken of and that had never even come into my heart.” '*g

But they surely thought they were advanced thinkers
What they did in their mind was right
That's what their leaders told them

If we were there we would see them as ignorant idolaters

But let's go back to our time

We have parents who vaccinate their children and who vaccinate themselves
They know there are risks and in fact they are scammed
But they keep doing it
They do it because the scientists say so (priests)
Vaccination will bring peace and health
Children should be vaccinated to save grandparents and for the common good
Of course they tell us it's science
But in the eyes of Jehovah ……. How is today's "science" different from that of ancient idolaters?
Perhaps when we look from the new world to this time we will think that the people were "ignorant idolaters"
Looks like a modern sacrificial ritual
Humanity has been brought back to the worship of Baal and Molek and has not realized it yet.

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This is exactly what I have been saying for so long. I even included it in my letter to headquarters. The parallels are unmistakeable.

 

[Jah-son]

Ive been saying from the beginning that this whole thing is part of some kind of occult-like ritual and that the populous is under a spell (Robert Malone's Mass formation psychosis). Magic spells only work on people who give into the fear and believe in them. They manifest it themselves through their fear. Thats why demons love for us to live in fear, they feed off of it and manipulate by means of it (think Monsters Inc.)
Our "health ministers" serve as high priests and the bottles of sanitizers, sprays and face masks, etc are the magical amulets and protective potions. When the WTorg started promoting all of this garbage, I couldn't believe what i was hearing.

 

[SusanB]

Ive been saying from the beginning that this whole thing is part of some kind of occult-like ritual and that the populous is under a spell (Robert Malone's Mass formation psychosis). Magic spells only work on people who give into the fear and believe in them. They manifest it themselves through their fear. Thats why demons love for us to live in fear, they feed off of it and manipulate by means of it (think Monsters Inc.)
Our "health ministers" serve as high priests and the bottles of sanitizers, sprays and face masks, etc are the magical amulets and protective potions. When the WTorg started promoting all of this garbage, I couldn't believe what i was hearing.

Well said.

 

[SpicySpice]

Ive been saying from the beginning that this whole thing is part of some kind of occult-like ritual and that the populous is under a spell (Robert Malone's Mass formation psychosis). Magic spells only work on people who give into the fear and believe in them. They manifest it themselves through their fear. Thats why demons love for us to live in fear, they feed off of it and manipulate by means of it (think Monsters Inc.)
Our "health ministers" serve as high priests and the bottles of sanitizers, sprays and face masks, etc are the magical amulets and protective potions. When the WTorg started promoting all of this garbage, I couldn't believe what i was hearing.

Very well said. Imagine the WT promoting demonic ritual! Never thought I would live to see the day

 

[LifeLearning]

We find ourselves in an unprecedented time: Most of the inhabited earth has been subverted by a demonic spell, carefully planned and executed by the most vile humans. It is a frightening realization that JWs are effected right along with the rest of the populations, something I would never have believed could happen.

I expected to hear the GB advising that the information coming from the Government agencies (CDC, FDA, WHO) as well as the media, academia and other worldly institutions is dangerously erroneous. Yet, here we are.

Initially I could see some being confused about things. 15 days to flatten the curve sounded reasonable. However we are now more than two years down the road and leadership in practically every institution in the world continues to push the same narratives of fear and forced injection in the name of altruism.

After studying what has transpired for two years, it is not hard for me to believe that deception of this magnitude could happen. It IS hard for me to believe that the Elders and Overseers could be complicit (or asleep) and not looking out for the congregations.

Let there be no misunderstanding, the shots are a bioweapon. The purpose has been planed for well over thirty years and the proof is manifest. When you consider the level of deception centered around the shots and the coercion to force people to be injected, this is a disgusting thing standing in the holy place and every other place where those in power are forcing it on those in subjection.

The shots are killing people. Injecting children may kill them. Treatments for covid have been widely available for almost two years. Yes, I would call compliance with this modern sacrifice to the beast, bowing down to it, and taking it's mark so that one may not be cancelled, and may be allowed to buy and sell.

 

[SusanB]

We find ourselves in an unprecedented time: Most of the inhabited earth has been subverted by a demonic spell, carefully planned and executed by the most vile humans. It is a frightening realization that JWs are effected right along with the rest of the populations, something I would never have believed could happen.

I expected to hear the GB advising that the information coming from the Government agencies (CDC, FDA, WHO) as well as the media, academia and other worldly institutions is dangerously erroneous. Yet, here we are.

Initially I could see some being confused about things. 15 days to flatten the curve sounded reasonable. However we are now more than two years down the road and leadership in practically every institution in the world continues to push the same narratives of fear and forced injection in the name of altruism.

After studying what has transpired for two years, it is not hard for me to believe that deception of this magnitude could happen. It IS hard for me to believe that the Elders and Overseers could be complicit (or asleep) and not looking out for the congregations.

Let there be no misunderstanding, the shots are a bioweapon. The purpose has been planed for well over thirty years and the proof is manifest. When you consider the level of deception centered around the shots and the coercion to force people to be injected, this is a disgusting thing standing in the holy place and every other place where those in power are forcing it on those in subjection.

The shots are killing people. Injecting children may kill them. Treatments for covid have been widely available for almost two years. Yes, I would call compliance with this modern sacrifice to the beast, bowing down to it, and taking it's mark so that one may not be cancelled, and may be allowed to buy and sell.

I agree with everything except I don’t think it is the mark. Many took it without knowing the truth about it. I think the mark is coming though and the COVID vaccine was akin to the Roman Armies when they first surrounded Jerusalem, then withdrew, but they will be back with true devastation.

 

[PJ54]

Magic spells only work on people who give into the fear and believe in them. They manifest it themselves through their fear. Thats why demons love for us to live in fear, they feed off of it and manipulate by means of it

I think the term that is used is loosh farming. Scary stuff!

 

[SusanB]

I think the term that is used is loosh farming. Scary stuff!

Weird. I never heard of that but I did an internet search and wow. Weird.

 

[Waiting4relief]

I think what has many people freaked out is how quickly the vaccine came about and the fact that people are still getting Covid even after being vaccinated.
One of my children said why doesn’t anyone get so upset over having to get the polio vaccine and all the other vaccines required to get into school or to travel abroad? I thought,what a great question and I said “probably because they work“ lol

 

[SusanB]

I think what has many people freaked out is how quickly the vaccine came about and the fact that people are still getting Covid even after being vaccinated.
One of my children said why doesn’t anyone get so upset over having to get the polio vaccine and all the other vaccines required to get into school or to travel abroad? I thought,what a great question and I said “probably because they work“ lol

But actually now that I was looking into the COVID vaccine I also learned information on the vaccines in general that they have hidden. Such as the connection between vaccines and autism. After this entire COVID debacle, I don’t trust anything the medical industry is pushing without doing my own research.

 

[Waiting4relief]

But actually now that I was looking into the COVID vaccine I also learned information on the vaccines in general that they have hidden. Such as the connection between vaccines and autism. After this entire COVID debacle, I don’t trust anything the medical industry is pushing without doing my own research.

But actually now that I was looking into the COVID vaccine I also learned information on the vaccines in general that they have hidden. Such as the connection between vaccines and autism. After this entire COVID debacle, I don’t trust anything the medical industry is pushing without doing my own research.

Amen

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

I've been thinking for a long time an idea
If we travel to the past and go to apostate Israel in the time of Jeremiah we would see sacrifices to Molek
People made their children pass through the fire
Some were burned and died
Others were burned with a ritual but they did not die
Adults also caused pain with fire or lacerations
Why did they do it?
Surely they thought that this would give them health and prosperity
That was what the priests said
How did Jehovah see it?

. Jeremiah 19:4 It is because they abandoned mec and made this place unrecognizable.d In it they are sacrificing to other gods, whom they and their forefathers and the kings of Judah had not known, and they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent ones.e 5 They built the high places of Baʹal in order to burn their sons in the fire as whole burnt offerings to Baʹal,f something that I had not commanded or spoken of and that had never even come into my heart.” '*g

But they surely thought they were advanced thinkers
What they did in their mind was right
That's what their leaders told them

If we were there we would see them as ignorant idolaters

But let's go back to our time

We have parents who vaccinate their children and who vaccinate themselves
They know there are risks and in fact they are scammed
But they keep doing it
They do it because the scientists say so (priests)
Vaccination will bring peace and health
Children should be vaccinated to save grandparents and for the common good
Of course they tell us it's science
But in the eyes of Jehovah ……. How is today's "science" different from that of ancient idolaters?
Perhaps when we look from the new world to this time we will think that the people were "ignorant idolaters"
Looks like a modern sacrificial ritual
Humanity has been brought back to the worship of Baal and Molek and has not realized it yet.

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Everything you’ve stated is exactly what I’ve been thinking….this is false worship in modern time. So called SCIENCE is the modern day God…aka PHARMAKIA (sorcery)

 

[Ms_ladyblue]

I think what has many people freaked out is how quickly the vaccine came about and the fact that people are still getting Covid even after being vaccinated.
One of my children said why doesn’t anyone get so upset over having to get the polio vaccine and all the other vaccines required to get into school or to travel abroad? I thought,what a great question and I said “probably because they work“ lol

They really don’t work and I don’t trust those vaccines either. I think that BIG PHARMA is bringing it’s own demise due to the hype and fear surrounding this ‘virus’ and the vaccine….people were getting suspicious, they began asking questions. And since we were stuck in our homes (not all of us were watching CNN or the rest of MSM) Many of us started doing our own research, not knowing we were going to go down the rabbit hole!
I already found evidence of other vaccines being dangerous. Have you ever seen the movie VAXXED?