New World Order

DavidCJ

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Today I had a 3 hour lunch with my good friend Cathy Obrien. Some of you on this forum are familiar with Cathy...She is one of the most famous MK Ultra (Mind Control) survivors. Cathy was used by the White House in the George Bush Sr. and Reagan years before her rescue in 1988 by Mark Phillips who was very high in the CIA and NASA who later became her husband.
Wait a minute, what? The same Cathy O'brien that detailed the grooming of MKUltra sex slaves basically from birth? And she was rehabilitated? You are really her friend, or are you quoting someone?

I read the online journal that detailed her experiences. It was super long but I went through few pages at least.

Another one that is really good is the show Wormwood on Netflix(yea, yea I know). The son of the agent that got killed because I guess his father started having conscience issues is interviewed in that show.

Edit: You are! That's fantastic.
 
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alan ford

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Regarding marijuana use, I am going to suggest that any ills corrected with the use of weed is a very selective remedy. I for one, having been a chronic pot smoker during my 13 years of being disfellowshipped developed hideous paranoia as a result of my pot use. However, I also have known people who thrived on it and were able to function at very high levels, even designing great solutions to problems in the construction industry. So, what did not work for me worked well for Cathy. If I smoked pot right now, I would be a total cripple for the rest of the day. That is not everyone's experience however. Got any? ;):cool:
There are other ways of using it which are not psychoactive. Lot of people find CBD oil helpful with their ailments. In places where it's legalized you can get a wide variety of products, even skin care that's based on CBD and terpenes it contains. I've seen even a CBD bath bomb :D
 

Jennifer

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Today I had a 3 hour lunch with my good friend Cathy Obrien. Some of you on this forum are familiar with Cathy...She is one of the most famous MK Ultra (Mind Control) survivors. Cathy was used by the White House in the George Bush Sr. and Reagan years before her rescue in 1988 by Mark Phillips who was very high in the CIA and NASA who later became her husband. Cathy has traveled the country over the years as a speaker to expose the MK Ultra operation and put a spotlight on the NEW WORLD ORDER. She said George Bush said that no one would be able to stop the NEW WORLD ORDER under no circumstances could it ever be stopped. We talked about so many things here is one of the highlights that I thought you guys my find interesting. We talked about marijuana...and how our government has suppressed and demonized marjuana and kept information from education, from the medical and mental health community. The true information about marijuana that has been suppressed is that marijuana opens neural pathways in the brain and you can not maintain control over anyone or any nation if you are using marijuana. The NEW WORLD ORDER is all about mind control that would not be possible if people had access to marijuana. After her rescue it was marijuana that was used to help get control over her own mind. In one of her books called PTSD Time to heal...she goes into the medical reasons why marijuana is crucial treating PTSD along with the medical value of marijuna. It was a fascinating lunch!

I'll bet it was a fascinating lunch!!! This is so interesting. The governments just have to ruin absolutely every single thing that is of benefit to mankind. Of course reading that was not surprising. The marijuana of which you speak sounds amazing. There's no way people would have a problem with it because that's the real one, the one Jehovah made. There will always be problems with "the other kind" Governments have their hand in it afterall. You've met some amazing people Melinda. Obama and Michelle!!! Wow or is that Obama and Michael? I heard him on two occasions refer to his "wife" as Michael. Poor Joan Rivers paid the price. Please share more Melinda, I mean, if you feel like it. I can never get enough of these truly amazing stories which expose what really goes on in this evil world. She has helped so many come to that understanding. Without her these same people, probably millions, would still be in the dark Thanks so much for this post..
 

Melinda

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I'll bet it was a fascinating lunch!!! This is so interesting. The governments just have to ruin absolutely every single thing that is of benefit to mankind. Of course reading that was not surprising. The marijuana of which you speak sounds amazing. There's no way people would have a problem with it because that's the real one, the one Jehovah made. There will always be problems with "the other kind" Governments have their hand in it afterall. You've met some amazing people Melinda. Obama and Michelle!!! Wow or is that Obama and Michael? I heard him on two occasions refer to his "wife" as Michael. Poor Joan Rivers paid the price. Please share more Melinda, I mean, if you feel like it. I can never get enough of these truly amazing stories which expose what really goes on in this evil world. She has helped so many come to that understanding. Without her these same people, probably millions, would still be in the dark Thanks so much for this post..
I have mentioned before that Cathy and I are neighbors...I say neighbors because we both live on the Tennessee River she lives across the river from me..we both share the same view from opposite sides. We try to get together every month it doesn't always work then sometimes like the last 2 weeks I had lunch with her twice. The reason I shared Cathy's story under the thread New World Order is many people are not aware that after Cathy's rescue in 1988 she and her husband Mark set out to warn the public of the pending New World Order. She started going around the country in the early 90's warning the public...even though her abuse at the hands of our government was so horrific...her main purchase was to expose the New World Order. We know that for most of us the first time we heard the term New World Order was in President Bush Sr.'s famous speech. However Cathy was long before that speech out exposing their New World Order agenda. Now New World Order agenda is almost a house hold term. Here is another fascinating story she shared with me. Cathy is very close friends of Rosanne Barr. In fact Rosanne comes to Alabama and visits Cathy often. You may have seen that Tucker Carlson recently did an interview with Rosanne on fox Nation...I did not see it but I saw clips from it. Rosanne told Cathy that she gave Tucker her book TRANCE Formation of America. Tucker called Rosanne after he read the book and told Rosanne that he was not holding back any longer even if it cost him his job he was going to expose it all. Rosanne and Cathy are talking about doing a pod cast together separate from the one she is currently going to do with Tim Allen. I recorded on video some of our conversation when got together I tried to down load the video on to this forum but it doesn't work.
 

Jennifer

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I have mentioned before that Cathy and I are neighbors...I say neighbors because we both live on the Tennessee River she lives across the river from me..we both share the same view from opposite sides. We try to get together every month it doesn't always work then sometimes like the last 2 weeks I had lunch with her twice. The reason I shared Cathy's story under the thread New World Order is many people are not aware that after Cathy's rescue in 1988 she and her husband Mark set out to warn the public of the pending New World Order. She started going around the country in the early 90's warning the public...even though her abuse at the hands of our government was so horrific...her main purchase was to expose the New World Order. We know that for most of us the first time we heard the term New World Order was in President Bush Sr.'s famous speech. However Cathy was long before that speech out exposing their New World Order agenda. Now New World Order agenda is almost a house hold term. Here is another fascinating story she shared with me. Cathy is very close friends of Rosanne Barr. In fact Rosanne comes to Alabama and visits Cathy often. You may have seen that Tucker Carlson recently did an interview with Rosanne on fox Nation...I did not see it but I saw clips from it. Rosanne told Cathy that she gave Tucker her book TRANCE Formation of America. Tucker called Rosanne after he read the book and told Rosanne that he was not holding back any longer even if it cost him his job he was going to expose it all. Rosanne and Cathy are talking about doing a pod cast together separate from the one she is currently going to do with Tim Allen. I recorded on video some of our conversation when got together I tried to down load the video on to this forum but it doesn't work.

Incredible stuff! She's one courageous woman. I read you post about her a while back. I first heard her story from David Icke. I know he has come out with some crazy stuff but "the crazy"is minuscule to the truth he speaks imo.

I haven't seen the Tucker Carlson interview with Rosanne but I now plan to search for it. I'm in Oz and I have to be online to listen to him tho I have seen him a lot, especially lately. There's just so much information coming out, I simply can't keep up, which is a good thing, kinda. I had heard Rosanne Barr was the real deal but so many of "them" appear to be and they're not. I remain suspicious until I know for sure so thank you for that. I hope Tucker remains true to his word and exposes absolutely everything he knows.

Truly mind blowing stuff! If that book is still readily available, I need a copy. What an amazing read. I very much appreciate your sharing of this knowledge. It's just beyond belief what has gone on in this world and continues still.

But hey, we're conspiracy theorists! Will the masses ever wake up to reality? I pray they do. Again, many thanks Melinda 😊
 

DavidCJ

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The thing about Charles Taze Russell not only having connections(or bias) to freemasonry and possibility that he's their bloodline, I can believe it. And I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing.

Why?

Because he would know way more than the average person. Think about it. Knowledge is worthless. Satan knows it all, that's why he will be in the worst situation out of all when he gets judged. You need to know the truth in order to lie and deceive. So I think it's a great thing that if CTR really had that influence he was able to break free of it and is a great case of Jehovah using literally anyone he wishes to fulfill what he needs to do.

There's a video about a former Satanist being interviewed and he says that the "Christian" belief that there's life after death by spirit is a lie, and Satanists know this.

So while it would have been an intense struggle, like many here have said, it(the organization) was good enough to be used by Jehovah to teach the fundamental truths.

That even applies to meaning of the words. The NWT is of the very few bibles that use the divine name when it can. Words are merely tools after all. Are you going to use a hammer as a blunt weapon to kill someone, or use it for constructive work?

I also think telling everyone what they are doing is part of the "deal" between Satan and Jehovah. "Do whatever you want, but you have to tell everyone first". Once you know it, it seems like everyone who doesn't is blind. Because it's THAT obvious. People twist their brains around trying to figure out this obscure meaning, when in 99.9% of the cases it's right in front of you and is enough to explain almost, if not everything.
 
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Cristo

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This is a difficult topic to even mention. People, don’t get twisted over the original comment. For the record, I smoked a boatload of weed throughout my life. I found the “truth” but then the truth got difficult with twists and turns. Unfortunately I turned back to weed for a time because it was a way to dull the voices of BS. I am drug free but the lies continue and I am surrounded now with only one way out. Jesus. Say his name in public daily. Read that last one again.
I too did the same. Boatload...and what a battle it was for me. That last one is great idea/advice...thanks.
 

PJ54

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The thing about Charles Taze Russell not only having connections(or bias) to freemasonry and possibility that he's their bloodline, I can believe it. And I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing.

Why?

Because he would know way more than the average person. Think about it. Knowledge is worthless. Satan knows it all, that's why he will be in the worst situation out of all when he gets judged. You need to know the truth in order to lie and deceive. So I think it's a great thing that if CTR really had that influence he was able to break free of it and is a great case of Jehovah using literally anyone he wishes to fulfill what he needs to do.

There's a video about a former Satanist being interviewed and he says that the "Christian" belief that there's life after death by spirit is a lie, and Satanists know this.

So while it would have been an intense struggle, like many here have said, it(the organization) was good enough to be used by Jehovah to teach the fundamental truths.

That even applies to meaning of the words. The NWT is of the very few bibles that use the divine name when it can. Words are merely tools after all. Are you going to use a hammer as a blunt weapon to kill someone, or use it for constructive work?

I also think telling everyone what they are doing is part of the "deal" between Satan and Jehovah. "Do whatever you want, but you have to tell everyone first". Once you know it, it seems like everyone who doesn't is blind. Because it's THAT obvious. People twist their brains around trying to figure out this obscure meaning, when in 99.9% of the cases it's right in front of you and is enough to explain almost, if not everything.
Something I wanted to mention is while people harp on CTR being a Mason, they ignore Bertrand Russell who had way more impact on the world in which has screwed up mainstream science which echoes into this day. If anybody of the Russell bloodline was part of the Masonic order it would be him.
 

Melinda

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Something I wanted to mention is while people harp on CTR being a Mason, they ignore Bertrand Russell who had way more impact on the world in which has screwed up mainstream science which echoes into this day. If anybody of the Russell bloodline was part of the Masonic order it would be him.
After reading this article above I researched to see if there was a connection between Bertrand Russell and Charles Taze Russell. I have always had a fascination how the illuminati has infiltrated the organization. I came across this article, I don't know the accuracy of this article, I think there is some truth to it. There was an interesting point on why only the 144,000 partake? Has anyone read this article.
The Russell Bloodline - GaninoGaninohttps://www.ganino.com › books › the_russell_bloodli...
 
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MickHewitt

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After reading this article above I researched to see if there was a connection between Bertrand Russell and Charles Taze Russell. I have always had a fascination how the illuminati has infiltrated the organization. I came across this article, I don't know the accuracy of this article, I think there is some truth to it. There was an interesting point on why only the 144,000 partake? Has anyone read this article.
The Russell Bloodline - GaninoGaninohttps://www.ganino.com › books › the_russell_bloodli...
Yes just read it thanks Melinda: The Scottish Masonic rite started the FBI who are cited as gathering evidence on WT (Posted previous on this subject)
.But it's no good asking me if it's koshe...Ive got them all drinking the baby blood!
 

Melinda

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Yes just read it thanks Melinda: The Scottish Masonic rite started the FBI who are cited as gathering evidence on WT (Posted previous on this subject)
.But it's no good asking me if it's koshe...Ive got them all drinking the baby blood!
Here is a connection between Trump and the Scottish Masonic rite. This is the coat of arms for the Trump International Golf Courses notice the double headed Eagle and the Lion.
The Double-headed eagle.
(The symbol most commonly associated with the Scottish Rite) The Lion head is connected to Zionist
 

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MickHewitt

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Here is a connection between Trump and the Scottish Masonic rite. This is the coat of arms for the Trump International Golf Courses notice the double headed Eagle and the Lion.
The Double-headed eagle.
(The symbol most commonly associated with the Scottish Rite) The Lion head is connected to Zionist
Incredible how it unravels: Just think of the gaps that will be filled in by resurectees. What an exciting future for us.
 

DavidCJ

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After reading this article above I researched to see if there was a connection between Bertrand Russell and Charles Taze Russell. I have always had a fascination how the illuminati has infiltrated the organization. I came across this article, I don't know the accuracy of this article, I think there is some truth to it. There was an interesting point on why only the 144,000 partake? Has anyone read this article.
The Russell Bloodline - GaninoGaninohttps://www.ganino.com › books › the_russell_bloodli...
It's very important to make sure that 144K partaking is scripturally sound and not to associate everything the masons/illuminati do as being false, because they also use the name of Jehovah(not in the ways we do, but ritually) and we have no problem using that. Yes I am pretty sure lot of folks don't use that name because they read/heard at one point the illuminati use it. But that's just stupid and also mentally lazy.

I also saw a good video about the Freemasons and it looks like they were genuinely interested in architecture and building but Illuminati corruption happened 15-16th century or so. And it clearly shows Solomon's apostasy being a prime influencer in their rituals and religion, because Solomon really had that much power and wealth. That would explain why many freemasons wouldn't be aware.

Just like because Government = bad, Globe Earth = False, 1+1 = False since that's what they taught so everything they said is wrong right? We as humans swing from one extremes of the pendulum to another.

I also have serious contention with people who think anything 5G is bad, because these people don't even have the most basic of knowledge regarding it. 5GHz in WiFi is different from 5G in cell technology and 5G has three levels, the first of which is just for compliance with older 4G towers and is no worse. It's because people are worried about things they have the faintest clue about. How many other things are people spouting about things they have zero knowledge of? Are they better than the peasants with with pitchforks that got riled up at the slightest nudge or heck, the flock of sheep that throws themselves off of a cliff because a plastic bag flew away.

There was a video on Youtube I used to watch and had compiled clips that basically said end of world is near and one clip had the invitation for the convention which said something like "New Order" but if you opened it up it would have said the ruler clearly is Jesus Christ. I was there. Which means either he didn't care enough to open it up or he did care enough to use it to mislead others.

I think based on what some people are saying of English, if we truly knew the meaning behind every word, we wouldn't be able to use the language at all. I am not bothered, because fundamentally I don't view things that way. Words really are tools for me.
 
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The God Pill

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Something I wanted to mention is while people harp on CTR being a Mason, they ignore Bertrand Russell who had way more impact on the world in which has screwed up mainstream science which echoes into this day. If anybody of the Russell bloodline was part of the Masonic order it would be him.
Another Russell

"Skull and Bones is a secret fraternity at Yale University which restricts their membership to only fifteen per year. . The society was formed in 1832 by General William Russell, whose shipping firm later dominated the U.S. side of the China opium trade. Yale University was founded by Eli Yale, who made his fortune working for the opium smuggling British East India Company."
 

Melinda

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Last night at the memorial the brother that gave the talk...was an older brother....so I don't know if he's old school. Of course, that was my first meeting in 20 years. What caught my attention was when he mentioned the words NEW ORDER.. twice during his talk..never said new system. Also...the brother who gave the closing prayer....said that this could very well be the last memorial.
 
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