Okay, just like I'd figured, churches were paid to push the jab!

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Liv4ever

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Okay, fair enough. So what do you know that you think that I need to know?
Brother Kenneth Cook said that a witness is someone with PERSONAL knowledge of events. My point is you are presenting your own speculation as fact.
 
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Liv4ever

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So if they took their position on the vaxx based on wanting to avoid getting the "jackboot" on them, then why would they then say "it's a personal decision"? Do you think that they promoted the vaxx to avoid legal issues and the personal decision is what the really feel?
I think ( in other words I'm speculating) that the gb prayed together and somehow the decision was made. We can't possibly know if they feared jackboots or what there reasoning was until they disclose.I disagree with the decision but that is just me. But viewed in the context that the entire world got suckered into this, it leaves room for reasonable doubt.
I think that ultimately, all things considered, not knowing why they decided what they decided, I can only think of Abraham ascending Mt. Moriah with Isaac and what must he have thought. The only thing that makes sense to me is that we are in the last days of the last days.

Do you think that they promoted the vaxx to avoid legal issues and the personal decision is what the really feel?
I honestly don't know and neither does anyone outside of a close knit circle. They have their advisors. Certainly lawyers are involved, but that is just part of the equation. Since everyone is speculating wildly, this conversation isn't leading to much purpose. The only thing we can do at this point is finish the preaching work. That is the mission that we need to focus on.
 

StopTheInsanity

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I think ( in other words I'm speculating) that the gb prayed together and somehow the decision was made. We can't possibly know if they feared jackboots or what there reasoning was until they disclose.I disagree with the decision but that is just me. But viewed in the context that the entire world got suckered into this, it leaves room for reasonable doubt.
I think that ultimately, all things considered, not knowing why they decided what they decided, I can only think of Abraham ascending Mt. Moriah with Isaac and what must he have thought. The only thing that makes sense to me is that we are in the last days of the last days.


I honestly don't know and neither does anyone outside of a close knit circle. They have their advisors. Certainly lawyers are involved, but that is just part of the equation. Since everyone is speculating wildly, this conversation isn't leading to much purpose. The only thing we can do at this point is finish the preaching work. That is the mission that we need to focus on.
"Your Honor, I'd like to admit into evidence of the Court Exhibit #A which is a printed copy of the digital disclaimer that users of the JW.org App were required to say "yes" to in order to continue to use the JW.org App. The disclaimer stated that any damages resulting from information on the site regarding medical matters was not to be construed as medical advice and the WT would not be held liable for any medical injuries that were sustained by following such advice on the App such as the GB Updates where they clearly advocate for getting vaccinated.

While opposing counsel will argue that it is a standard disclaimer, what is relevant is the timing of the disclaimer which was instituted in late 2022 and the fact that no such disclaimer had ever been required before by users of the App prior to advice to seek vaccination by WT leadership. Why add such a disclaimer if WT was not concerned about possible legal action by members who had followed their advice and received the COVID 19 vaccination and experienced injuries as a result and thus might seek legal damages? It goes to motive."

Judge: "I'll allow it. Counsel, your rebuttal?"
 
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BARNABY THE DOG.

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One of the reasons I had to get out. Elder gave me such a hard time. Not obey GB in little things what about big things, I was soft shunned from that very day, only Pomo last couple days. I am doing it tough at present. Shunned by everybody. Such conditional love in the org. Just disgusting.
Look at it positively. You have chosen to seek truth rather than do as you’re told. True, someone has stolen your crutches, but now you can walk freely in Jehovah’s path. It’s a free privilege, - not a punishment, but a reward. Now you are free to learn the truth about Jehovah.
 
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"Your Honor, I'd like to admit into evidence of the Court Exhibit #A which is a printed copy of the digital disclaimer that users of the JW.org App were required to say "yes" to in order to continue to use the JW.org App. The disclaimer stated that any damages resulting from information on the site regarding medical matters was not to be construed as medical advice and the WT would not be held liable for any medical injuries that were sustained by following such advice on the App such as the GB Updates where they clearly advocate for getting vaccinated.

While opposing counsel will argue that it is a standard disclaimer, what is relevant is the timing of the disclaimer which was instituted in late 2022 and the fact that no such disclaimer had ever been required before by users of the App prior to advice to seek vaccination by WT leadership. Why add such a disclaimer if WT was not concerned about possible legal action by members who had followed their advice and received the COVID 19 vaccination and experienced injuries as a result and thus might seek legal damages? It goes to motive."

Judge: "I'll allow it. Counsel, your rebuttal?"
As the system winds down, and circles the final drain, we are going to have bigger problems than these...

Anyhow..."Really, it is already a defeat for you when you have lawsuits with one another. Why not rather let yourselves be wronged?+ Why do you not rather let yourselves be defrauded? Instead, you wrong and defraud, and your brothers at that! 1 Corinthians 6:7,8
 

StopTheInsanity

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As the system winds down, and circles the final drain, we are going to have bigger problems than these...

Anyhow..."Really, it is already a defeat for you when you have lawsuits with one another. Why not rather let yourselves be wronged?+ Why do you not rather let yourselves be defrauded? Instead, you wrong and defraud, and your brothers at that! 1 Corinthians 6:7,8
Nobody said anything about suing anyone. I was just playing along with your pretend court room scene. Jehovah will heal anyone who has been vaccine injured. I just wanted to refute your JW apologist stance of giving them the benefit of the doubt. Their affiliation with the UN probably is still in place which is why they directed everyone to follow the WHO's advice on health during COVID and may even have received financial compensation for pushing the vaxx.

I personally know of a brother in his 20's who had a heart attack after his 2nd dose so I'm not finding your stance to be funny at all, to be frank. And an elder who defended the vaxx who also got all the boosters had a colonoscopy and he's in his 40's and another brother who defended got a cyst on his liver and had to be hospitalized for 2 weeks.

I'd love to hear others post what vaccine injuries/deaths that they know of that the friends that they know, whether in or out of the truth have experienced. People have NOT been allowed to talk about it in the organization. I heard of one elder who wrote the branch asking for guidance on how to encourage a sister who got injured after the vaxx and how to convince her that she still did the right thing, and the branch wrote back to his body of elders telling them to keep an eye on him because he was causing divisions. That is a disfellowshipping offense so that is no light matter. This is serious stuff. Jehovah is not pleased.
 

Chloe

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Brain tumour and thyroid cancer in 2 30 year olds In the truth. Both fully vaxxed.
Major heart problems requiring surgery after second dose In 50 year old.
Blood clots in both legs on flight in 60 year old fully vaxxed elder.

No doubt more to come. But of course the instruction is not to discuss illnesses in the congregation due to privacy issues. How convenient.
 

StopTheInsanity

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Brain tumour and thyroid cancer in 2 30 year olds In the truth. Both fully vaxxed.
Major heart problems requiring surgery after second dose In 50 year old.
Blood clots in both legs on flight in 60 year old fully vaxxed elder.

No doubt more to come. But of course the instruction is not to discuss illnesses in the congregation due to privacy issues. How convenient.
Plausible deniability. And what about the brother who was interviewed in a recent broadcast from Bethel who recently died there after having cancer? I can't tell you how many people I've talked to, even in the medical industry who have known people injured/died from this thing. It's too many to be coincidental. Oh, and I forgot. Another elder was diagnosed with Parkinson's after having lost his voice. I guess the Parkinson's had paralyzed his vocal chords. Of course, they don't make the connection because all of these "diseases" SEEM unrelated.

There's a great book called "Crooked" by Forrest Maready that shows how crooked smiles in babies, crossed eyes and all sorts of other syndromes are from the mercury and aluminum poisoning from the adjuvants used in vaccines.

Another great book is "Dissolving Illusions" by Suzanne Humphries, PhD. She really breaks down how all the major diseases were almost eradicated BEFORE all the vaccines were invented. We've been duped, peeps.
 
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Liv4ever

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Nobody said anything about suing anyone.
Stop the insanity

I was just playing along with your pretend court room scene.
This is not pretend court

I'm not finding your stance to be funny
I object to your constant mischaracterization of hearsay as fact and I object to your mischaracterization of my stance. You are free to say what YOU think, not what I think. You don't even know my stance. Your testimony is conflicted and compromised. I have family that are severely vaccine injured. We've been over it and over it, over and over again. Vaccines are barbaric. They have no basis in true science. It's underpinnings are based on junk science.
 
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