Podcast #86

Ms_ladyblue

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I was creating division by discussing openly and on Facebook that the vaccines were dangerous and people should do research before taking them and I supplied on FB the science from, the CDC and WHO on the effectiveness of masking and social distancing...also on the whole Covid narrative and then made statements to why the GB was getting involved in our medical/health and was suggesting that there was some kind of issue or problem and that the GB be investigated by a committee for wrongdoing and association with the wild beast...and that we should expect problems within the organization as Jesus illustrations of the wheat and weeds was for our time...I then spoke to and sent text and email to the body of Elders explaining that I would and could provide information for my accusations ...and that if their was no wrongdoing that would and should be announced thru the organization....I used the example of ourselves being investigated for wrong doing and then a judicial committee being formed to take action and help any who have sinned....I suggested that they are not above scrutiny and that this was a truly theocratic way of dealing with issues of concern ...used the example of King David and Nathan... But it was I who was told to keep these things to myself and not spread it among brothers or on social media...but my social media was limited to my friends and family in the organization ...at least up until I I was then disfellowshipped...Today I am post scriptures and reasoning why this is happening and much of what Robert says without referring to him. I have a few who follow me there as friends because they have expressed the same concerns as I had....some we continue to talk on messenger ...but privately. Recently a family in the Congregation I was associated ran into me at the grocery store and they spoke very comfortably with me , which tends to indicate that they may very well feel the same way.
In other words, you were DF for telling the TRUTH!
You‘re being treated like many of Jehovah’s faithful servants in the past…and that’s a good thing.

1Peter 2:19 “For it is agreeable when someone endures hardship and suffers unjustly because of conscience toward God.”
”Happy are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake…” Matt. 5:10
 
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Maybelle

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I guess this is a follow up article to the podcast.

My biggest issue is freeness of speech and the GB/elders have taken this away from us. Anybody that speaks about certain issues 1914/Christ return/covid/vaccinations will
Have their freedom of speech taken away from them and accused of causing divisions 🤔🤷‍♀️ Possible disfellowshipping….
 

SeaGull

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On a side note though although we cannot speak out now without being shut down, I believe Jehovah will use us to help those when the cracks really start appearing and the curtain is finally pulled down.
I feel that too, - we will have a chance to speak out, and those ' in shock ' will need a strong steady familiar voice to reassure them that Jehovah's only doing what he did with the Israelite national. Their house was abandoned to them. Matt 23: 37,38. - But we will reassure them that Jehovah will tell all of us, what we need to do - at the right time!
 

White Stone

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I also texted many in the congregation advising them not to give it to their children until we see the results of this experiment and one was an elder and he wrote me not to send him any information because he believed the GB know what they are doing...and no doubt caused him to be very vocal....I had served with many of these brothers as an Elder and Regular pioneer for more than 10 years , had parts regularly on Circuit Assemblies ...so they knew me well, an my zeal for Jehovah and the Brotherhood..like many of you I helped in KH construction locally and abroad when I had opportunity ...as I have been in Construction since 1989.
Even though I feel that they are just obedient slaves to the GB , it is hard to imagine that one could be so easily dismissed and considered one who is reckless in his faith and love for Jehovah God and his brothers....
How easily they had their ears shut when the alarm starts. They could have at least, investigated why you have come to that conclusion and not easily marked you as an apostate, knowing you had a long time of good standing in the org.

Well, this is the result of their manipulation. Long years of indoctrination that the slave is always approved by Jehovah and is using only them when their own publication itself says that they are “neither inspired nor infallible”.
 

DR74minus

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Your entire post is right on the money but I particularly resonate with the above thought. Christianity was not designed to be an "organization" akin to the Jewish "God's People" system. The anointed make up the "house of God". Jehovah deals with us as individuals and not an org any more. Many scriptures to prove this point, just ask if desired to see.

The JW structure has been set up wrongly from the beginning but the Org has obviously been used by Jehovah just like he used Cyrus back in the day.

The prophetic playbook as explained by the Watchtower is so off base that it makes ones head spin. I for one am very thankful to Robert and others who have shared insights regarding prophecy to such an amazing degree that now I see with at least a modicum of clarity.

Every once in a while Robert is going to go off track and I think in this case he is doing so. Once we perceive the disgusting thing it is time to bail (let the reader use discernment). This covid scam, which in turn led to the "vax" lies are the embodiment of Disgusting! The brothers are still wearing masks, I see them doing so at all the carts in my daily travels. This too is a disgusting lie! I and my family cannot in good conscience return to the meetings to show our implied support to this disgusting thing (amongst other disgusting attributes)

If I am wrong, Jehovah will make me aware of it in due course.

As for the preaching work, we are still preaching. Nothing there has changed other than turning in a time card. True Christianity is alive and well outside of the Watchtower Organization, the modern day golden calf.

People are just going to have to learn the basics of the Bible the old fashioned way, by studying with those who can teach it to them properly. This is not a matter of letting them have the "same opportunity" as us. Sending unsuspecting and hopeful people to the Watchtower nowadays is like sending them to a satanic ritualistic pagan / cultish ceremony. One on one bible studies which highlights the basic truths and then moves them on to nutritious meat and potatoes (not milk forever designed to stunt growth and cause pre-mature spiritual death) is a tried and true method.

@Watchman I challenge our loving and dear forum host to attend some meetings consistently and see how long that lasts. Regardless of not being able to "insight to love and fine works" because of being disfellowshipped, if he wants others to go to meetings, he should be willing and able to do the same.

Hey bro how you doing? You made some good points. I'm curious about this, "Every once in a while Robert is going to go off track and I think in this case he is doing so." We all know that our brother is an imperfect human Just like me.

If it comes down to a debate about scripture I think RK is up for it. Would you be able to fill us in on how brother King has gone off track "in this case"? or not?

I agree that if RK "wants others to got to meetings, he should be willing and able to do the same" I musta missed the memo. Not seen in the comments or the video where RK recommended people go back to the meetings. One thing I disagree with him, is the ranking of Gold as a conductor of electricity among natural metals, as if that will help my standing with Jehovah.
 

Medi-tator

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Hey bro how you doing? You made some good points. I'm curious about this, "Every once in a while Robert is going to go off track and I think in this case he is doing so." We all know that our brother is an imperfect human Just like me.

If it comes down to a debate about scripture I think RK is up for it. Would you be able to fill us in on how brother King has gone off track "in this case"? or not?

I agree that if RK "wants others to got to meetings, he should be willing and able to do the same" I musta missed the memo. Not seen in the comments or the video where RK recommended people go back to the meetings. One thing I disagree with him, is the ranking of Gold as a conductor of electricity among natural metals, as if that will help my standing with Jehovah.
Hey Kiwi! I don't remember what I was thinking when I wrote "Every once in a while Robert is going to go off track and I think in this case he is doing so." It most likely had something to do with the meetings but maybe I was mixing up threads in my head at that time. I love clarity so I am dismayed that I brought about some confusion here. If I remember I will let you know. Take care bro and talk again soon! Hope you are doing well!!
 
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