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I've been listening to Robert's book lately, and the chapter on Amos & Obadiah sparked a question.

Amos 1:1 "The words of Amos, who was among the sheep raisers from Tekoa, which he received in vision concerning Israel in the days of King Uzziah of Judah and in the days of Jeroboam son of Joash, the king of Israel, two years before the earthquake."

This chapter has helped me to see that the WT will be judged before the Catholic Church, which is properly depicted as Edom. Earthquakes are mentioned a few times in Revelation; once at 8:5, another at 11:13 after all the martyred anointed have been raised, and the last one at 16:18, which is said to be the largest of them all. Why did Amos mention an earthquake? Was he signaling when the judgment of the WT begins? Will the WT's judgment start 1 & 1/2 years into the HOT?

I don't look at anyone's Bible conjecture, even my own, in order to influence my thinking about future events. I do this to avoid confirmation bias and hopefully allow Jehovah's Spirit to guide me. Obviously, this site, and Robert's work, has had great influence on my own conjecture... but with all due respect to our host and others, nobody knows exactly how things will unfold in the future... but we have some solid guesses on this forum! Can anyone tell me exactly when they believe the WT will be judged? IMHO, it doesn't occur until sometime during the HOT, after the sealed anointed are kicked out... but when?

Could Amos be telling us that the WT's judgment begins midway through the HOT, which then triggers the CC, Orthodox Church and Protestantism to laugh and scoff at the WT's fall? Does this cause PIMI JWs who still want a relationship with God, to the seek shelter within these denominations? When are they judged? My guess would be not for awhile, in order to allow Jehovah's people to "see the light" and leave before it's too late.
 
I don't think the earthquake mentioned in Amos is meant to be prophetic. Amos intended to specify the exact time when he received the vision. The great earthquake must have been massive, though, as it is also mentioned as a historical fact three centuries later in the prophetic book of Zechariah: "You will flee to the valley of my mountains, for the valley of the mountains will extend all the way to Azel. You will have to flee, just as you fled because of the earthquake in the days of King Uzziah of Judah." - Zech 14:5

By the way, Carl, do you have the WT Library on your computer? I do not mean the jw.org download. The old library from the CD-ROM is much more powerful as a search tool. It doesn't even have to be current. I am talking about something like this download: https://watchtower-library-2014-english.software.informer.com/

For some reason, the WT never made it available for a Mac, so if you use an Apple, as I do, you have to use software that allows Windows to operate on OS. I use Crossover.

To illustrate the benefit of the WT Library, I just ran a search for "two years before the earthquake." There are two Watchtowers that quote that verse and offer comments. You have to put "quotes" around more than two words to get the exact phrase if that's what you are looking for.
 
Carl said:
I've been listening to Robert's book lately, and the chapter on Amos & Obadiah sparked a question.

Amos 1:1 "The words of Amos, who was among the sheep raisers from Tekoa, which he received in vision concerning Israel in the days of King Uzziah of Judah and in the days of Jeroboam son of Joash, the king of Israel, two years before the earthquake."

This chapter has helped me to see that the WT will be judged before the Catholic Church, which is properly depicted as Edom. Earthquakes are mentioned a few times in Revelation; once at 8:5, another at 11:13 after all the martyred anointed have been raised, and the last one at 16:18, which is said to be the largest of them all. Why did Amos mention an earthquake? Was he signaling when the judgment of the WT begins? Will the WT's judgment start 1 & 1/2 years into the HOT?

I don't look at anyone's Bible conjecture, even my own, in order to influence my thinking about future events. I do this to avoid confirmation bias and hopefully allow Jehovah's Spirit to guide me. Obviously, this site, and Robert's work, has had great influence on my own conjecture... but with all due respect to our host and others, nobody knows exactly how things will unfold in the future... but we have some solid guesses on this forum! Can anyone tell me exactly when they believe the WT will be judged? IMHO, it doesn't occur until sometime during the HOT, after the sealed anointed are kicked out... but when?

Could Amos be telling us that the WT's judgment begins midway through the HOT, which then triggers the CC, Orthodox Church and Protestantism to laugh and scoff at the WT's fall? Does this cause PIMI JWs who still want a relationship with God, to the seek shelter within these denominations? When are they judged? My guess would be not for awhile, in order to allow Jehovah's people to "see the light" and leave before it's too late.
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Food for thought.

Excerpted from - Will Christendom survive the end of the Watchtower?​


QUESTION: Having read your website since 2010, now I can grasp the real meaning of prophecies. It is said at Daniel:11:41: “He will also enter into the land of the Decoration, and many lands will be made to stumble. But these are the ones that will escape out of his hand: Edom and Moab and the main part of the Ammonites.” I understand that the land of the Decoration = Christian Congregation, and from your insight I have learned that Edom, Moab and Ammon were relatives of Israel through Esau and Lot. Does it mean that other Christian denominations will escape for a brief period of time and finally be destroyed in Daniel 12:1: “During that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people.” If my understanding is wrong at this point please correct me. Please, what does this actually mean?

In the event of war and financial collapse, martial law is a certainty. Just as in the other world wars the Watchtower Society will come under scrutiny for their antiwar stance. And without access to their funds the Society will most certainly cease to function as a publishing concern. And let’s face it, when the world blows up and instead of Christendom going down the Watchtower does, whatever is left of the Watchtower will have zero credibility anyway.

But in his mercy Jehovah will redeem those whose faith survives the coming crash. God will perform a repurchase of his people. And he will forgive in a large way. Then God will turn his attention to those who joyfully plundered his people; specifically, that which is represented by Edom, Moab and Ammon (Christendom) will be judged by God and annihilated by the king of the north when he goes forth in his great rage. > https://e-watchman.com/will-christendom-survive-end-watchtower/ Also read>

The prophetic significance of Moab > https://e-watchman.com/prophetic-significane-moab/​

The Judgment of Moab > https://e-watchman.com/the-judgment-of-moab/​

 
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